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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "towelie"
Date: 07 Oct 2003 05:28:37 PM
Object: Question about catholicism
With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?
--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better
about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all ***** about
something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he
doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so
long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and help just so that
he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of
our tears. You see, it's our tears that give God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
.

User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 01:25:25 AM
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:28:37 -0500 in alt.atheism, towelie ("towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen,

Heh. Depends on who you ask.... In theory though the next one won't be
elected until sometime after the death of the current one. But like
most boardroom elections there are probably implicit and explicit
agreements between the directors albeit that these are spiritual
directors.

or will it happen
after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less?

Depends how the elections go. Some of them have been quite drawn out
affairs, where voters are split between contending candidates. JP II
appears to have stacked the deck to a degree though, so it probably
won't be that long; Though of course the Cardinals have to get
themselves to Rome for the vote, which itself takes a few days.
For a brief rundown on the electorial process, see
http://www.netacc.net/~wmooney/aaaBill/pelect.htm
which says:
<start>
The Pope is elected by the College of Cardinals during a secret
conclave. This conclave takes place no sooner than fifteen days and no
later than twenty days after the death of his predecessor. All
cardinals present and under eighty years of age take part in the
election. These electors will number no more than one hundred and
twenty. Election is by a super majority of two thirds of those present
and is by secret ballot. In case of a dead lock or after protracted
balloting a smaller percentage may prevail see Election Legislation at
Vatican (English)
It is believed that inspiration granted by the Holy Ghost is given to
the Sacred College gathered to elect the new Pope. When the Pope dies,
the Church is governed by the College of Cardinals under the
leadership of the Cardinal Chamberlain. The College may not, however
make any permanent decisions, and their power is very limited.
Cardinals are bishops appointed to their office by the reigning Pope.
Most are heads of major dioceses throughout the world and have the
rank of Archbishop. Some are heads of departments of the central
government of the church "curia" in the Vatican. Most of these
"curial" cardinals served at one time as diocesans. A very small
number of the cardinals are Eastern Rite bishops as opposed to Roman
Rite bishops. These Eastern cardinals can often be identified by their
distinctive vestments.
In general the cardinals elect a Cardinal. The cardinals are well
informed about the positions and competencies of their peers. Some
cardinals from "underground churches" and those subjected to
government persecution will not attend. In theory, the individual
elected isn't required to be a Cardinal or even a cleric but only a
male, baptised catholic, and mentally sane. The election of someone
not a Cardinal is highly unlikely.
<end>

And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?

Dunno. Vatican watchers suggest an elderly conservative caretaker
pope, probably an elderly Italian, is most likely. Personally I've
asked William Hill (a chain of bookmakers here in the UK) for odds on
the different countries of origin of the current crop of cardinals and
an waiting to see what they say.
However, now for a conspiracy theory!
Recently JP II named a bunch of new cardinals. One of these was named
"in pectore". This means the guy has been elevated to the rank of
cardinal, but his name has been kept secret basically because of
danger to his person that might arise should his name be known. This
isn't an unusual move where the secret cardinal is resident in a
country with significant social unrest, civil war, or a deeply
repressive government with no great love of the RCC. It might be
someone in Burma, for example.
Anyway, Ishtar-Lilith appeared to me last night, which was very
unusual because I was on my way to an Indian restaurant, not a
chinese, and she informed me that the secret cardinal is in fact the
anti-christ himself and has been created cardinal that he might rise
to the office of pope in a seemly manner (as a matter of interest,
technically any baptised member of the RCC can be created pope,
though it would be virtually unprecedented if a layman or anyone below
the rank of cardinal were). His identity has been concealed for
obvious reasons.... As Ishtar-Lilith said unto me, "get me an onion
bargee, would you," but not before she'd announced impending
armageddon, rivers of blood and to stock up on Brita water filters,
cans of beans, coke and bottles of brandy.
She's very thoughtful that way.
Of course that said, if the anti-christ doesn't make it, do we have
any EAC baptised Roman Catholic members here? If so we should start
lobbying right now...!
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User: "Doug Semler"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 12:16:13 PM
In news:dk97ovsr3iogk0s4b7toul7aog3grrsihp@4ax.com,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> slavered, and posted this:

She's very thoughtful that way.

Very.


Of course that said, if the anti-christ doesn't make it, do we have
any EAC baptised Roman Catholic members here? If so we should start
lobbying right now...!

Yes. On both counts. But...having not been appointed Cardinal, and also
having been defacto excommunicated, I don't think my candidacy holds much
weight.
Although, Mary Cook (the porn star) did manage to get ~10,000 votes in
California's gubernatorial race, so such things could be possible,
especially with Ishtar-Lilith in my corner... :)
--
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 10:27:56 PM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:25:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:

In theory, the individual
elected isn't required to be a Cardinal or even a cleric but only a
male, baptised catholic, and mentally sane.

That limits the field a bit. They're lucky they don't include "who
believes all this *****". That would narrow it down to the male
mouse that got splashed while he was hiding under the fount.
--
"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
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User: "Daniel Kolle"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 06:44:09 PM
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?

When the Pope dies, and only when he is dead, a new Pope will be
selected. I think the Cardinals select the new Pope.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 09 Oct 2003 06:49:38 AM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:44:09 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> thought hard and said:

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?


When the Pope dies, and only when he is dead, a new Pope will be
selected. I think the Cardinals select the new Pope.

The pope has been mighty busy to reach over the grave: he ordained
something like 200 cardinals, all at least every bit as conservative
as he is. If not a lot more...
.


User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 05:58:32 PM
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it

happen

after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?

--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better
about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all ***** about
something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he
doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so
long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and help just so that
he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of
our tears. You see, it's our tears that give God his great power.

aa #2133
apatriot #19


Towlie,
Where did you get your "apatriot" number?
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
.
User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 06:02:13 PM
The other Donald wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance
of the Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or
will it happen after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how
long will the world be pope-less? And if the former is correct, who
will be the next pope?

--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel
better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all *****
about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get
over it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it
don't matter to him, so long as it makes us sad...God gives us life
and love and help just so that he can tear it all away and make us
cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our
tears that give God his great power.

aa #2133
apatriot #19

Check here: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/misc/apatriotism.htm
--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel
better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all *****
about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over
it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter
to him, so long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and
help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can
drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears that give
God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
.


User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 06:40:06 PM
In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death?

Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor.
Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp
--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "Clayton McCloud of the Clan McCloud...And I Am Immoral!"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 08:59:23 PM
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ecfcbd6bca4f8d98a22e@news.cis.dfn.de...

In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of

the

Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it

happen

after JPII's death?


Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor

No no no...the put all the cardinals on an island surrounded by cameras and
then one by one they vote each other out of the vatican. In the end they
decide who will be the lone pope. Several of the more attractive loosers go
on to pose for Playpope.
..


Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp


--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins

.
User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 10:23:33 PM
"Clayton McCloud of the Clan McCloud...And I Am Immoral!"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f837042$0$7066$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...


"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ecfcbd6bca4f8d98a22e@news.cis.dfn.de...

In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of

the

Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it

happen

after JPII's death?


Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor


No no no...the put all the cardinals on an island surrounded by cameras

and

then one by one they vote each other out of the vatican. In the end they
decide who will be the lone pope. Several of the more attractive loosers

go

on to pose for Playpope.

Clayton and Quibbler....
Neither of you bastards are right in the head. :-)
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT


.


Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp








--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins



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User: "Clayton McCloud of the Clan McCloud...And I Am Immoral!"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 02:19:18 AM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VqLgb.83125$am.83009@twister.austin.rr.com...


"Clayton McCloud of the Clan McCloud...And I Am Immoral!"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f837042$0$7066$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...


"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ecfcbd6bca4f8d98a22e@news.cis.dfn.de...

In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance

of

the

Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it

happen

after JPII's death?


Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor


No no no...the put all the cardinals on an island surrounded by cameras

and

then one by one they vote each other out of the vatican. In the end

they

decide who will be the lone pope. Several of the more attractive

loosers

go

on to pose for Playpope.


Clayton and Quibbler....

Neither of you bastards are right in the head. :-)

You say that as if it's a bad thing AAAAHHHH...SNAKES SNAKES ALL OVER ME AH
AHH.


-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT






.


Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp








--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins





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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 11:09:17 PM
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:40:06 -0600, a stranger
called by some quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death?


Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor.

Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp

It gets worse. There used to be a step before voting. The Cardinals
would sit and wait for God to intervene and make them all shout out
the same name!
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
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Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 06:45:43 AM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 04:09:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In article <blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death?


Naw, the way it works is that if we can get enough signatures we can
vote to recall the pope and replace him with an inarticulate hollywood
actor.

Actually, the process is spooky as *****. Check this out.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp


It gets worse. There used to be a step before voting. The Cardinals
would sit and wait for God to intervene and make them all shout out
the same name!

That is what my old mum actually believes...
.



User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 06:01:35 PM
Sorry for the second post, but here is it right from the horses... er... mouth.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.

User: "Steven Hunter"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 05:36:26 PM
The next pope will not be elected until the death of the reigning pontiff,
though I do not know the time table for such an election. Many names have
been floated about as a possible successor to John Paul II, most prominent
of which is a cardinal from Africa - who would be the first black pope. Who
knows?
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blvemo$gqo32$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it

happen

after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?

--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better
about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all ***** about
something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he
doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so
long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and help just so that
he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of
our tears. You see, it's our tears that give God his great power.

aa #2133
apatriot #19


.

User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 06:00:15 PM
towelie wrote:

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?

Traditionally, those cardinals who are younger than 85 are eligible to vote for
the next pope. After JP II dies, they will be bricked up -- literally -- in to
a wing of the Vatican Palace. There are two ballots cast each day, one in the
morning and one in the evening, each preceeded by politicking and a solemn
mass. After the vote, the ballots are burned to help guarantee secrecy. If a
new pope was chosen, the burning paper produces a white smoke. If no one was
elected, the paper is dampened to produce a black smoke. The whole point of the
isolation, the secrecy and the smoke signals was, as far as possible, to keep
the decision separated from political and social pressure.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.
User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 07 Oct 2003 06:09:27 PM
Gregory Gadow wrote:

towelie wrote:

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance
of the Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or
will it happen after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how
long will the world be pope-less? And if the former is correct, who
will be the next pope?


Traditionally, those cardinals who are younger than 85 are eligible
to vote for the next pope. After JP II dies, they will be bricked up
-- literally -- in to a wing of the Vatican Palace. There are two
ballots cast each day, one in the morning and one in the evening,
each preceeded by politicking and a solemn mass. After the vote, the
ballots are burned to help guarantee secrecy. If a new pope was
chosen, the burning paper produces a white smoke. If no one was
elected, the paper is dampened to produce a black smoke. The whole
point of the isolation, the secrecy and the smoke signals was, as far
as possible, to keep the decision separated from political and social
pressure.

That is severely fucked up. Thanks for the quick response.
--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel
better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all *****
about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over
it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter
to him, so long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and
help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can
drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears that give
God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 01:26:31 AM
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:09:27 -0500 in alt.atheism, towelie ("towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

Gregory Gadow wrote:

towelie wrote:

With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance
of the Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or
will it happen after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how
long will the world be pope-less? And if the former is correct, who
will be the next pope?


Traditionally, those cardinals who are younger than 85 are eligible
to vote for the next pope. After JP II dies, they will be bricked up
-- literally -- in to a wing of the Vatican Palace. There are two
ballots cast each day, one in the morning and one in the evening,
each preceeded by politicking and a solemn mass. After the vote, the
ballots are burned to help guarantee secrecy. If a new pope was
chosen, the burning paper produces a white smoke. If no one was
elected, the paper is dampened to produce a black smoke. The whole
point of the isolation, the secrecy and the smoke signals was, as far
as possible, to keep the decision separated from political and social
pressure.


That is severely fucked up. Thanks for the quick response.

As far as I can see the main problem is that they unbrick them after a
pope is elected.
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User: "Fear gan dia"

Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 02:19:24 AM
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
in <3F83457F.9ED7C5B6@serv.net>:
# towelie wrote:
#
# > With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
# > Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
# > after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
# > pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?
#
# Traditionally, those cardinals who are younger than 85 are eligible to vote for
# the next pope. After JP II dies, they will be bricked up -- literally -- in to
# a wing of the Vatican Palace. There are two ballots cast each day, one in the
# morning and one in the evening, each preceeded by politicking and a solemn
# mass. After the vote, the ballots are burned to help guarantee secrecy. If a
# new pope was chosen, the burning paper produces a white smoke. If no one was
# elected, the paper is dampened to produce a black smoke. The whole point of the
# isolation, the secrecy and the smoke signals was, as far as possible, to keep
# the decision separated from political and social pressure.
I remember hearing this story when I was a kid, and,
impressionable callow youth that I was, I thought
they just wrote someone's name on a piece of paper
and threw it in the fire, and if gawd thought that
person should be the next pope, he would magically
turn the smoke white, otherwise he would turn it
black. Ok, go ahead and laugh at me...
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Title: Re: Question about catholicism 08 Oct 2003 02:25:42 AM
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:19:24 GMT in alt.atheism, Fear gan dia ("Fear
gan dia" <tlqdqnxlrbrts@nqxshdbhlhdh.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
in <3F83457F.9ED7C5B6@serv.net>:

# towelie wrote:
#
# > With the news that the pope is ailing, and considering my ignorance of the
# > Catholic religion, has the next pope already been chosen, or will it happen
# > after JPII's death? If the latter is the case, how long will the world be
# > pope-less? And if the former is correct, who will be the next pope?
#
# Traditionally, those cardinals who are younger than 85 are eligible to vote for
# the next pope. After JP II dies, they will be bricked up -- literally -- in to
# a wing of the Vatican Palace. There are two ballots cast each day, one in the
# morning and one in the evening, each preceeded by politicking and a solemn
# mass. After the vote, the ballots are burned to help guarantee secrecy. If a
# new pope was chosen, the burning paper produces a white smoke. If no one was
# elected, the paper is dampened to produce a black smoke. The whole point of the
# isolation, the secrecy and the smoke signals was, as far as possible, to keep
# the decision separated from political and social pressure.

I remember hearing this story when I was a kid, and,
impressionable callow youth that I was, I thought
they just wrote someone's name on a piece of paper
and threw it in the fire, and if gawd thought that
person should be the next pope, he would magically
turn the smoke white, otherwise he would turn it
black. Ok, go ahead and laugh at me...

Ha! Mind you, these days apparently they use chemicals.
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