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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
| Date: |
22 Feb 2004 06:21:00 PM |
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Question For Atheists? |
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
25 Feb 2004 12:25:15 AM |
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and exegetical study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things that they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different times by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents -- and a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have anything that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been refuted or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth] which drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
25 Feb 2004 08:27:20 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and exegetical
study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things that
they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different times by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents -- and a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even
intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in
praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you
explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above
does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question
authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You
will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived
authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have anything
that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been refuted
or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth] which
drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and tell me where the
imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades.
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
26 Feb 2004 08:57:37 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and exegetical
study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is
said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things
that
they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different times
by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents -- and
a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even
intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in
praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you
explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above
does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question
authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You
will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived
authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have
anything
that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been
refuted
or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth] which
drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
Brainless: Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and tell me
where the imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades.
Tom: This guy has to be using a dictionary in an attempt to use "big words"
to impress us, because his sentences make absolutely no sense. Of course, he
is too "intelliegnet" for our charades.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
26 Feb 2004 09:30:46 PM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com>
wrote
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and
exegetical
study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is
said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things
that
they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different
times
by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents --
and
a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even
intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism
ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in
praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you
explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above
does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question
authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You
will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived
authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have
anything
that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been
refuted
or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth]
which
drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
Brainless: Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and tell
me
where the imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much
too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades.
Tom: This guy has to be using a dictionary in an attempt to use "big
words"
to impress us, because his sentences make absolutely no sense. Of course,
he
is too "intelliegnet" for our charades.
Oh so the puny Sycophanting fool lowers himself to ad hominem once again by
pointing out my *typos*.
You had your chance. If that's all the 3rd grade drivel you are capable of
repeating, may those I warned you about take their shots at will, including
me.
Oh yeah. It might be wise to say now if you're a kid of 15 or so. Some may
take pity.
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| User: "Tom" |
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27 Feb 2004 08:46:46 AM |
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<snip 7 kb that Brainless can't quite do>
"> > >Brainless: Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and
tell
me
where the imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much
too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades.
Tom: This guy has to be using a dictionary in an attempt to use "big
words"
to impress us, because his sentences make absolutely no sense. Of
course,
he
is too "intelliegnet" for our charades.
Painful: Oh so the puny Sycophanting fool lowers himself to ad hominem
once >again by pointing out my *typos*.
Tom: Let me spell it out for you, you damn fool. When you tell others how
intelligent that you are not to fall for our charades you damn well had
better not misspell a word in that post. When you start slinging ***** little
boy, you had better not stand under the fan. You slung it and I was the fan.
Now, did you comprehend what I said?
Painful: You had your chance. If that's all the 3rd grade drivel you are
capable of
repeating, may those I warned you about take their shots at will,
including
me.
Tom: Those you warned me about???? I'm really worried you brainless idiot. I
hope "those you warned me about" are a lot smarter than you. If they aren't
this will be a turkey shoot.
Brainless: Oh yeah. It might be wise to say now if you're a kid of 15 or
so. Some >may take pity.
Tom: You mean the same age as you? Sorry Brainless, I'm older than that.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
26 Feb 2004 03:29:17 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <rbaker4@msnn.com> wrote in message
news:49c_b.1006$wP3.822@twister.socal.rr.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote
in
message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and exegetical
study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things that
they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different times by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents -- and a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even
intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in
praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you
explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above
does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question
authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You
will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived
authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have anything
that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been refuted
or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth] which
drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and tell me where the
imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades....
...............getttin' to yer are we? Hee Hee Heee
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
26 Feb 2004 09:25:41 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <rbaker4@msnn.com> wrote in message
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com>
wrote
in
message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus.
--
Ron Baker
Question: Have you ever done a critcal historical and
exegetical
study
of
the Bible yourself? I am willing to bet that you haven't. It is
said
that
95% of those who come across as you do, and choose to denigrate
Christianity, have not either - they are just repeating things
that
they
have heard, read, or been taught, from others without examining
objectively
the facts, evidences and writings of our faith.
Which makes you a parrot at best.
"... the Bible was a collection of books written at different
times by
different men -- a strange mixture of diverse human documents --
and a
tissue
of irreconcilable notions. Inspired? The Bible is not even
intelligent. It
is
not even good craftsmanship, but is full of absurdities and
contradictions."
[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism
ever
conceived.
[Isaac Asimov]
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the gospels in
praise
of
intelligence.
[Anonymous]
+Instead of Parroting something someone else has said can you you
explain
why somehthing is so?
When an authority tells you to question authority as the moron above
does,
don't feel silly questioning that authority's reasons for having you
question authority! Usually, when a person tells you to question
authority,
they are telling you to only question the established authority. You
will
find that they don't like having their own views, or perceived
authority,
questioned or challenged.
No the Bible is not a lie. Where is your evidence? Do you have
anything
that
has not been carefuly refuted - and I certainly do not mean rejected
out of hand. If you can find anything that has not already been
refuted
or
anything that contradicts the points made I would be very
interested to hear them....
for starters 'The Old Fart Noah', there's thousands more:
The Magic Pixie told the old fart to
build a great big boat out of magic wood, and to fill the big boat
with two or seven of each kind of animal; two or seven, depending on
how you interpret the written version of the Saga of the Magic Space
Pixie.
Of course, the old fart pulled all this off without a hitch, and when
the big boat was loaded the Magic Pixie poured about four and a half
billion cubic kilometres of water on to the mud ball, [the earth]
which
drowned
every single living critter. About a year later, the waters eventually
magically disappeared leaving absolutely no trace that the flood ever
happened.
After leaving the big boat, all the animals magically wandered back to
from wherever it was they came, and the old fart somehow got drunk,
probably from wine made out of magic grapes that grew in a magic
vineyard. Once he was good and sloshed, the old fart stripped off his
clothes and passed out. Sometime later one of the old fart's sons
walked in and saw the old fart's wobbly bit, so the Magic Pixie - who
doesn't like people to look at wobbly bits - put a curse on the
wobbly-bit-looker and all his descendants, even though they didn't
even see the wobbly bit.
And the olf fart forgot altogether about the mammals in the
sea who had no water to swim in! And the fish and the...
Ok maggot brain ,now get coherent for a few seconds and tell me where
the
imagined dilemma is here.
Instead of demonstrating that you are nothing more than a tragically
fragmented piece of society,stop being purposefully ambigous,I am much
too
intelliegnet and way beyond you for such charades....
..............getttin' to yer are we? Hee Hee Heee
+No,a fool can never get under my skin,don't you sense the sympathetic wince
yet?+
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27 Feb 2004 08:35:23 AM |
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<snip 6 kb not necessary for reply>
..............getttin' to yer are we? Hee Hee Heee
Painful: +No,a fool can never get under my skin,don't you sense the
sympathetic >wince yet?+
Tom: You really shouldn't use the term "fool" because most of us here will
assume that you refer to yourself. Review your many useless posts, Painful
and see who is the fool.
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23 Feb 2004 05:03:09 AM |
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"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
The same reason you don't believe in Zeus....
......and Isis, Janus, Juno, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn,
Set,
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta,
Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya,
Bob
Hong Kong
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Ron Baker
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| User: "Mark Folsom" |
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25 Feb 2004 10:50:13 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
What's God? What does it mean to "believe in" something?
Mark Folsom
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22 Feb 2004 08:00:20 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why do you not believe in Allah?
That should probably give you a few hints.
Alun Harrford
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 08:08:19 PM |
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"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c1bmr4$i6q$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why do you not believe in Allah?
That should probably give you a few hints.
Alun Harrford
+I do believe in Allah "God",why don't you?+
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23 Feb 2004 03:15:50 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:mgd_b.220$884.62165@news.uswest.net...
"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c1bmr4$i6q$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why do you not believe in Allah?
That should probably give you a few hints.
Alun Harrford
+I do believe in Allah "God",why don't you?+
Oh fine.
Pick another.
Why don't you believe in Shiva?
Alun Harford
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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23 Feb 2004 11:51:42 AM |
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In article <mgd_b.220$884.62165@news.uswest.net>, The Church of The Painful
Truth says...
"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c1bmr4$i6q$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why do you not believe in Allah?
That should probably give you a few hints.
Alun Harrford
+I do believe in Allah "God",why don't you?+
No evidence he/she/it exists.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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22 Feb 2004 09:08:15 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:00:20 -0000, "Alun Harford"
<alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why do you not believe in Allah?
That's just a differnt name for "God".
If you didn't see "the dog" then you didnt see "le chien".
Mark.
--
Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "Tom" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:08:08 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why is it that you do?
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| User: "Mark Nutter" |
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23 Feb 2004 11:52:54 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
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| User: "Viceroy Fizzlebottom" |
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23 Feb 2004 04:47:47 PM |
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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23 Feb 2004 08:07:02 PM |
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"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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23 Feb 2004 10:01:48 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:9ly_b.879$KQ1.126304@news.uswest.net...
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out
of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
That is a rather curious phrase: "choosing to not exercise His will".
Isn't choosing an act of will?
That phrase sounds contradictory.
Would you care to explain it?
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just
don't.
No, it is not a matter of choice.
I would like to not believe in gravity so I could fly but
I haven't succeeded in that disbelief yet.
Both are a lack of action.
So, how can you complain against God for not
We don't complain against God.
(We do find fault in the descriptions of God that
are offered.)
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
--
Ron Baker
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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24 Feb 2004 03:27:37 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<9ly_b.879$KQ1.126304@news.uswest.net>...
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just don't.
No, beliefs are not choices.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
I only complain against *Christians* when God fails to move according
to *Christian* criteria.
--Billy
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| User: "Mark Nutter" |
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24 Feb 2004 08:41:18 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<9ly_b.879$KQ1.126304@news.uswest.net>...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.
In other words, superstition: ascribing a specific, arbitrary,
supernatural cause to the things and events you observe in the real
world. If you are honest with yourself, you will have to admit that
you do not let your observation of nature dictate what you believe
about God. Rather, you let your beliefs about God dictate how you
interpret what you observe in nature.
Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
Did you read my answer at all? I *did* choose to exercise belief in
God, for a good three-quarters of my life. I was finally able to
discern that my exercise of faith was all that was lending any
existence at all to God, since I observed that God did not move even
according to his own criteria. You have argued that the
characteristics of the real world ought to be assumed to reflect the
characteristics of God Himself. But what men say about God is not
consistent with those characteristics, and there is no source of
information or evidence relating to God outside of the stories,
superstitions, and subjective feelings of men. If we take the real
world as reflecting God's standards for what constitutes the
difference between reality and fantasy, and we measure the Christian
doctrines of God against those standards, they come up as fantasy.
That is why you end up with nothing if you seek to put your faith in
God rather than in men, as I did.
m
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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24 Feb 2004 11:16:30 AM |
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In article <9ly_b.879$KQ1.126304@news.uswest.net>, The Church of The Painful
Truth says...
snip
+If God created the universe and everything in it,
Assuming your conclusion - You lose.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Feb 2004 12:36:14 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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25 Feb 2004 08:48:39 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4175.B7056E26@netvigator.com...
The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
+You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
.
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| User: "Tom" |
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26 Feb 2004 08:28:07 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:88d%b.545$os4.50631@news.uswest.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4175.B7056E26@netvigator.com...
The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote
in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in
God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the
real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the
Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative
character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for
not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all
in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
Brainless: +You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
Tom: Another zinger. Wow, Brainless, you're really good :-).
.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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26 Feb 2004 09:45:27 PM |
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103s0jpqe6tf0ba@corp.supernews.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:88d%b.545$os4.50631@news.uswest.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4175.B7056E26@netvigator.com...
The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote
in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in
God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping
with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial,
and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in
the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the
real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the
Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created
it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative
character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is
the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for
not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at
all
in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
Brainless: +You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
Tom: Another zinger. Wow, Brainless, you're really good :-).
+At one time tommy actually had potential. His flaming career here started
out promising and gradually disintegrated; A few mistakes here and there,
numerous post humps, a friendship with a no-talent Bob young, and eventually
a bruised ego all contributed to the creation of one of the most bitter
posters we've ever had here at Brawl-Hall.
.
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
27 Feb 2004 08:56:00 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:p3z%b.2698$B84.80155@news.uswest.net...
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com>
wrote
in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in
God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping
with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial,
and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in
the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was
a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way
the
real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the
Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created
it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in
His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative
character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is
the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you
just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God
for
not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at
all
in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
Brainless: +You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
Tom: Another zinger. Wow, Brainless, you're really good :-).
Painful: +At one time tommy actually had potential. His flaming career here
started
out promising and gradually disintegrated; A few mistakes here and there,
numerous post humps, a friendship with a no-talent Bob young, and
eventually
a bruised ego all contributed to the creation of one of the most bitter
posters we've ever had here at Brawl-Hall.
Tom: I see this post is up to your usual standards. No content.
.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
27 Feb 2004 10:28:19 PM |
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Tom wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:p3z%b.2698$B84.80155@news.uswest.net...
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103s0jpqe6tf0ba@corp.supernews.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:88d%b.545$os4.50631@news.uswest.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4175.B7056E26@netvigator.com...
The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e53534db2bdb19780bc5f67bf547e596@news.teranews.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com>
wrote
in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in
God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping
with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial,
and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in
the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was
a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way
the
real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the
Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created
it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in
His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative
character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is
the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you
just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God
for
not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at
all
in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
Brainless: +You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
Tom: Another zinger. Wow, Brainless, you're really good :-).
Painful: +At one time tommy actually had potential. His flaming career here
started
out promising and gradually disintegrated; A few mistakes here and there,
numerous post humps, a friendship with a no-talent Bob young, and
eventually
a bruised ego all contributed to the creation of one of the most bitter
posters we've ever had here at Brawl-Hall.
Tom: I see this post is up to your usual standards. No content.....
......I think Tom when Xtians run out of argumant in favour of their belief [and
this happens fairly quickly] some withdraw, some keep arguing, and others
become highly frustrated realising that their life long passion is nothing but
a vacuum, and then resort to childish name calling.
I think our 'painful' friend falls into the latter category.
bob
Hong Kong
"I refuse to prove that I exist" says God, "for proof denies
faith, and without faith, I am nothing."
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