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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 06:21:00 PM |
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Question For Atheists? |
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
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| User: "bob young" |
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28 Feb 2004 07:45:09 PM |
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Tom wrote:
<snip>
Tom: Another zinger. Wow, Brainless, you're really good :-).
Painful: +At one time tommy actually had potential. His flaming career
here
started
out promising and gradually disintegrated; A few mistakes here and
there,
numerous post humps, a friendship with a no-talent Bob young, and
eventually
a bruised ego all contributed to the creation of one of the most
bitter
posters we've ever had here at Brawl-Hall.
Tom: I see this post is up to your usual standards. No content.....
.....I think Tom when Xtians run out of argumant in favour of their belief
[and
this happens fairly quickly] some withdraw, some keep arguing, and others
become highly frustrated realising that their life long passion is nothing
but
a vacuum, and then resort to childish name calling.
I think our 'painful' friend falls into the latter category.
bob
Hong Kong
"I refuse to prove that I exist" says God, "for proof denies
faith, and without faith, I am nothing."
Tom: I agree. If you take the history of any of these NG's you find that the
smarter creationists realize after a short stay here that they are out of
"ammo" and quietly leave. These people I can respect even if I totally
disagree with their position. The "long-termers" like "Pastor"Dave,
Jistanass, Mark Johnson, Liar John, IKHDY(alias YM1) are actually scared to
death. The will do anything, and I think their lies show this, to preserve
their literal reading of the bible. They have to because they backed
themselves into a corner and leaving this corner is impossible. If they
weren't so despicable you could almost pity them......
I sometimes do. If it has been a life long dedication to a god of some sort
and the realisation sets in that this has been a life long sham, the results
could be devastating. All the more reason to avoid younger one's from getting
into this situation in the first place. A mamoth task!
Eventually [maybe] the 'Long Timers' will come to their senses.
All the best Tom
Bob
Hong Kong
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| User: "bob young" |
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26 Feb 2004 12:26:42 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Viceroy Fizzlebottom" <money907@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
This paragraph could have been written by me. Same story, same
conclusions.
BTW, new here, hello :-)
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it
out of
his own nature. The design and natural laws had to originate in His
mind.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic,
physics,
etc. These are all reflections of God's awesome creative character.Think
about this. God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the
same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just
don't.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
"Yaaaaaaaaaaawn"
+You're an idiot and not even a good one at that+
Lo.... the kind Christian spirit sallies forth to greet his fellow man in love
and compassion
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| User: "Viceroy Fizzlebottom" |
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24 Feb 2004 09:56:32 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
+If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created it out of
his own nature.
It did not.
The design and natural laws had to originate in His mind.
They did not.
Therefore, it will have His characteristics woven into it: logic, physics,
etc.
My logic tells me there is no god.
God choosing to not exercise His will in something is the same
as you choosing not to exercise belief in a god. You could, you just don't.
No, I did, and I chose logic over mythology. If your god-thing gave me
my logic, why would he allow me to disbelieve, and then punish me for
eternity? According to your myths, god already knows what every single
person on the planet is going to do...yet he allows them to "stray"
anyway...therefore guaranteeing eternal damnation. I want no part of
such an evil sadistic god-thing.
Both are a lack of action. So, how can you complain against God for not
moving according to your criteria, when you choose to not move at all in
believe in Him?+
Been there, done that, got the baptismal certificate, moved on.
--
Eric W.
Colorado Springs, CO
A.A.#2174
Me: http://www.egwilliams.net
DX: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_DXers
SP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COS_Single_Parents/
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Feb 2004 12:35:14 AM |
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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25 Feb 2004 08:50:29 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4126.C305F04D@netvigator.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle, which states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle, and,
therefore, logically flawed.
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| User: "Tom" |
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26 Feb 2004 08:29:22 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:T9d%b.546$os4.50597@news.uswest.net...
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4126.C305F04D@netvigator.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Brainless: Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle,
which >states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means
that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle, and,
therefore, logically flawed.
Tom: All discussions of god are meaningless.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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26 Feb 2004 09:47:00 PM |
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective
feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll
find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without
having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But
there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Brainless: Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle,
which >states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means
that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle,
and,
therefore, logically flawed.
Tom: All discussions of god are meaningless.
+All discussions of Atheism are meaningless+
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| User: "Tom" |
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27 Feb 2004 08:54:39 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote
in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in
God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the
real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the
Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God
that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective
feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God,
but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll
find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were
real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without
having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But
there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Brainless: Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle,
which >states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means
that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However,
the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle,
and,
therefore, logically flawed.
Tom: All discussions of god are meaningless.
Paainful: +All discussions of Atheism are meaningless+
Tom: Gee Painful, you're the one discussing it. Why don't you stop?
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| User: "Mark Nutter" |
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27 Feb 2004 04:05:41 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<T9d%b.546$os4.50597@news.uswest.net>...
Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle, which states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle, and,
therefore, logically flawed.
Christianity also fails its own test, since it states that one ought
to believe and obey God rather than man, and yet all we have of God is
what men say about Him. Men wrote the books of the Bible, men
selected the books to be canonized, men declared their selection to be
"inspired," and men interpret the books and determine what
interpretation seems right in their own eyes. Whoever would trust in
God has no choice but to put his faith in the stories, superstitions,
and subjective feelings of men (including himself).
m
aa#2115
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Feb 2004 10:33:21 PM |
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Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<T9d%b.546$os4.50597@news.uswest.net>...
Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle, which states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle, and,
therefore, logically flawed.
Christianity also fails its own test, since it states that one ought
to believe and obey God rather than man, and yet all we have of God is
what men say about Him. Men wrote the books of the Bible, men
selected the books to be canonized, men declared their selection to be
"inspired," and men interpret the books and determine what
interpretation seems right in their own eyes. Whoever would trust in
God has no choice but to put his faith in the stories, superstitions,
and subjective feelings of men (including himself)....
.....and yet millions still cling to the apron strings of their mother's religion.
This could be said to be just a quirky facet of the human psyche, but it is more than that, it puts fear into me realizing
that we humans can not control our thinking beyond this primitive belief.
What other horrors do we have in store for ourselves?
Bob
Hong Kong
"I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the
mountains with your flowing blood..."
[Ezekiel 32:5]
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| User: "bob young" |
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26 Feb 2004 12:28:39 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4126.C305F04D@netvigator.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle, which states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle, and,
therefore, logically flawed....
.....only one sense is required 'common sense'
the 'flaw' is in your insistance in following one out of thousands of made up
gods
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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26 Feb 2004 09:46:28 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403D9108.1EA818D8@netvigator.com...
The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:403C4126.C305F04D@netvigator.com...
Mark Nutter wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because, after a few decades of devout, unquestioning faith in God,
dedicating my life to God, studying the Bible, fellowshipping with
the
church, and devoting myself to prayer, obedience, self-denial, and
worship, I finally realized that what I was actually seeing in the
real world was overwhelmingly consistent evidence that God was a
character who appears only in the stories, superstitions, and
subjective feelings of men. The difference between the way the real
world was, and the way the real world should have been if the Bible
were true, was too great to ignore any longer.
Try it yourself. Ask yourself, "What is it I believe about God that
does not come from the stories, superstitions, and subjective
feelings
of people such as myself?" You may think you have faith in God, but
if you look at what you are really putting your trust in, you'll
find
that the painful truth is that your faith is actually in the
traditions and feelings and superstitions of men. If God were real,
there ought to be lots of other ways to learn about him without
having
to depend on fallible human thoughts, words, and feelings. But
there
isn't. And that's just one of the ways the real world fails to be
consistent with the idea that God is real.
m
If I were marking this 'out of one hundred' I would give it '110'
Thanks for a clear picture.
bob
hong kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius 75 - 160 AD]
+Appeal to authority+
Logical positivism is based upon the verification principle, which
states
that for a statement to be meaningful, it has to be either true by
definition or verifiable by one or more of the five senses. This means
that
all discussion about God should be considered meaningless. However, the
verification principle itself fails its own test, since it cannot be
verified by any of the five senses. It is a self-refuting principle,
and,
therefore, logically flawed....
....only one sense is required 'common sense'
the 'flaw' is in your insistance in following one out of thousands of made
up
gods
+the 'flaw' is in your insistance in following no God out of the only GOD of
the universe.+
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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23 Feb 2004 01:22:53 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because God doesn't seem real.
In fact, whenever people don't believe in something, no matter what it
is, the reason is always the same: it doesn't seem real.
People can only believe things that seem real.
HTH,
--Billy
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| User: "Adam" |
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23 Feb 2004 10:22:59 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Exactly the same reason that I don't believe in Rangi the Sky-father
and Papa the Earth-mother.
Cheers - Adam (#1099)
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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23 Feb 2004 12:49:02 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
In the very simplest terms, I've never found any evidence for their
existence that I would consider compelling.
The capital G omni-X God, in particular, is problematic. I don't that
the field of theodicy has ever come up with a compelling solution to
the problem of evil that doesn't boil down to either restricting one
of its omni-characteristics or which lends itself to all sorts of
question begging (as I feel that the traditional "free will" response
does).
Furthermore, the more I look at the universe as a whole, the more I
find it likely that the universe is, at best, utterly lacking any
interest in human affairs. At this point, anything beyond a deistic
god is very, very hard to swallow, indeed.
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Andrew Lias
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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22 Feb 2004 09:20:15 PM |
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
For the same reason you reject all the gods that aren't yours. If you were
capable of understanding why you reject all the other gods then you would
understand why we reject yours.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Thore Schmechtig" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:05:28 PM |
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Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
--
UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but whenever followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream "Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you don't
have that right anyhow.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:16:51 PM |
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"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of one, or a
fossil of one, or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they all
described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
+Chuckle,have you proved that?+
<Snip circular rhetoric>
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| User: "Tom" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:33:57 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:6wc_b.194$884.57799@news.uswest.net...
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of one, or
a
fossil of one, or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they all
described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
Painful: +Chuckle,have you proved that?+
Tom: It would be more evidence than your "god" has.
Painful: <Snip circular rhetoric>
Tom: Painful is unable to recognize circular rhetoric. He read a creationist
site that used these terms and he thinks it is "cool" so he is using them
also. Too bad he doesn't understand why he is using these terms.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:52:06 PM |
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103im48p2gbno2e@corp.supernews.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:6wc_b.194$884.57799@news.uswest.net...
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of one,
or
a
fossil of one, or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they all
described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
Painful: +Chuckle,have you proved that?+
Tom: It would be more evidence than your "god" has.
Painful: <Snip circular rhetoric>
Tom: Painful is unable to recognize circular rhetoric. He read a
creationist
site that used these terms and he thinks it is "cool" so he is using them
also. Too bad he doesn't understand why he is using these terms.
+If you could read, which is a bad assumption on my part, you would notice
that I invariably use all of my words in context.And now I have a question
for you,"How did you ever graduate kindergarten? Everything about posts are
horrid and filled with ambiguity, Rambeling on and saying little. +
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| User: "Tom" |
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22 Feb 2004 08:03:27 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:91d_b.211$884.60926@news.uswest.net...
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103im48p2gbno2e@corp.supernews.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:6wc_b.194$884.57799@news.uswest.net...
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its
existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of
one,
or
a
fossil of one, or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they
all
described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
Painful: +Chuckle,have you proved that?+
Tom: It would be more evidence than your "god" has.
Painful: <Snip circular rhetoric>
Tom: Painful is unable to recognize circular rhetoric. He read a
creationist
site that used these terms and he thinks it is "cool" so he is using
them
also. Too bad he doesn't understand why he is using these terms.
Painful: +If you could read, which is a bad assumption on my part, you
would >notice that I invariably use all of my words in context.
Tom: I have read them painful and you have shown a total lack of
comprehension of the phrases you are attempting to use.
Painful: And now I have a question
for you,"How did you ever graduate kindergarten? Everything about posts
are
horrid and filled with ambiguity, Rambeling on and saying little. +
Tom: Let me see if I can help you with your little three line post above.
You left off the quote marks at the end of the phrase"graduate
kindergarten". You used informal English when you assumed the word from,
which should have been in front of the word kindergarten. You don't describe
whose or what posts when you say, "Everything about posts". This leads me to
the conclusion that you refer to your own posts. You capitalized and
misspelled "Rambeling".
You still want to criticize my posts, troll :-)?
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:25:32 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach The Church of The Painful Truth:
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of one,
or a fossil of one, or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they
all described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
+Chuckle,have you proved that?+
We don't need unicorns to fix death for us. We understand that death is
the end of life. For that reason many of us do not fear it.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
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The fool says in his heart "there is no God".
The wise man says it to the world.
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| User: "Snowbird" |
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23 Feb 2004 02:07:14 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
The way to believe in unicorns is to find one, or have pictures of one,
Pictures can be faked.
or a
fossil of one,
Fossils can be faked.
or a bunch of people who said they saw one, and they all
described, basically the same thing: a unicorn. That would be a way.
I wouldn't just trust other people's word for it.
-
Wayne
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| User: "JISTASKKIN" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:12:23 PM |
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"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
T Schmechtig and his secret NG
*****Thorry's fantasy world where he loses a debate and then changes the
reply to so he can slink away!!!!
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
Remember, after reading it:
Homo idioticus
And I'd say it's very clear that you behave as an idiot.
So . . there. There we are.
Well, fundie boy, what's up? I havent't seen a reply to my postings
Thorry thinks he *wins* by sending an unsuspecting poster to an undisclosed
NG (alt.idiots)
***the purpose of this****
Thore is replacing the reply to NG with alt.idiots. I have not been fooled
but I noticed others have.
Thore then smugly asks them "where is your reply" A lot of folks would not
see what he has done.
This is the only reply that will be given to Thore Schmechtig. I am going to
make sure as many people as
possible know that he habitually changes the reply to NG to avoid losing
another debate. I don't intend to stop anytime soon. Unless of
course you can get him to say he will stop changing the reply to NG.
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| User: "Tom" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:22:27 PM |
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"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in message
news:Xrc_b.51401$Hy3.20574@edtnps89...
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Jistanass: T Schmechtig and his secret NG
Tom: Jistanass, living up to his name.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 07:32:13 PM |
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103iler5vf58ib7@corp.supernews.com...
"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in message
news:Xrc_b.51401$Hy3.20574@edtnps89...
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:c1bjml$1ctdm5$2@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Jistanass: T Schmechtig and his secret NG
Tom: Jistanass, living up to his name.
+Are you a strong atheist or a weak one?+
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| User: "Snowbird" |
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23 Feb 2004 02:04:56 AM |
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Thore Schmechtig wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
*chuckle* because the only thing you have as "proof" of its existence
is a dusty old book full of lies...
*double chuckle*, nah, it's because of creationists!
-
Wayne
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| User: "Robert Matthews" |
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23 Feb 2004 06:15:41 AM |
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In article <NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Which god exactly is it that you're talking about?
The Christian god? And if so, which one? The god worshiped by
Catholics is patently different from that worshiped Southern Baptists,
which likewise is different from that worshiped by Unitarians (those
that actually believe in a god, anyway). David Koresh's god was clearly
not the same one as Coretta Scott King's god.
Or would it be one of the multiple gods of the Hindus, or the
Vikings, or the Romans, or the Greeks? And if so, which one of those
gods, and why that one in particular and not any of the others?
So which one shall it be? You can't have a discussion until you've
agreed on your terms, so you'll have to define the word "god".
Once you've squared that away to everyone's satisfaction, we can
begin to answer the question you posed.
Robert Matthews
a.a. #1801
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Feb 2004 12:29:13 AM |
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Robert Matthews wrote:
In article <NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Which god exactly is it that you're talking about?
The Christian god? And if so, which one? The god worshiped by
Catholics is patently different from that worshiped Southern Baptists,
which likewise is different from that worshiped by Unitarians (those
that actually believe in a god, anyway). David Koresh's god was clearly
not the same one as Coretta Scott King's god.
Or would it be one of the multiple gods of the Hindus, or the
Vikings, or the Romans, or the Greeks? And if so, which one of those
gods, and why that one in particular and not any of the others?
So which one shall it be? You can't have a discussion until you've
agreed on your terms, so you'll have to define the word "god".
Once you've squared that away to everyone's satisfaction, we can
begin to answer the question you posed.
Robert Matthews
a.a. #1801
....he can 'mull over' these gods as well:
[Note under ‘African Gods’ the number devoted to ‘Supremacy’]
Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus,
Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen,
Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim
Eshu, Ereshkigal,
Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel,
Hephaestus,
Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar,
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius,
Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea,
Saturn, Set,
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta,
Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and Lint® the Laundry God.
African gods:
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Table of Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and
Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
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