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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 06:21:00 PM |
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Question For Atheists? |
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
26 Feb 2004 07:03:36 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:58:26 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
"Jos Flachs" <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:01 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
+Beacuse Krishna has no basis in reality,much like your thought pattern+
You mean: exactly like your gods?
+Maybe if you put Bulls on Parade on pause and quit scratching your gooch
with a carrot pealer, you could put together a coherent sentence. Because I
didnt reply to that hogwash creole jambouree down syndrome written post on
the other thread doesnt mean you owned me. In fact you havent even flamed me
once, just trying to avoid my seering arrows of ownage with your wood shield
of transparency. +
Can anyone translate this in coherent English? As non native English
speaker this is a wee bit beyond me. :-(
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
25 Feb 2004 12:21:08 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:01 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
+Beacuse Krishna has no basis in reality,much like your thought pattern+
Just like your God. Gotcha.
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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25 Feb 2004 08:59:23 PM |
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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:01 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
+Beacuse Krishna has no basis in reality,much like your thought pattern+
Just like your God. Gotcha.
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+Identify the objects or events being compared and the property which both
are said to possess. Show that the two objects are unique in a way which
will affect whether they both have that property. Until then you're a fool.
Gotcha+
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| User: "Tom" |
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26 Feb 2004 12:30:02 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:01 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
+Beacuse Krishna has no basis in reality,much like your thought
pattern+
Just like your God. Gotcha.
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Painless: +Identify the objects or events being compared and the property
which >both are said to possess. Show that the two objects are unique in a
way which
will affect whether they both have that property. Until then you're a
fool.
Gotcha+
Tom: Yeah, you've yet to get anyone :-).
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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01 Mar 2004 02:15:18 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:59:23 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
+Identify the objects or events being compared and the property which both
are said to possess. Show that the two objects are unique in a way which
will affect whether they both have that property. Until then you're a fool.
Let's see, both are mythology and have no objective basis in fact.
And you buy into it.
Guess we all know who the fool is.
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| User: "bob young" |
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26 Feb 2004 12:37:36 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:01 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
+Beacuse Krishna has no basis in reality,much like your thought pattern+
Just like your God. Gotcha.
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+Identify the objects or events being compared and the property which both
are said to possess. Show that the two objects are unique in a way which
will affect whether they both have that property. Until then you're a fool.
this 'cop out' of yours gets more and more boring.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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24 Feb 2004 06:21:55 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:51:17 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false.
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Feb 2004 12:51:17 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:51:17 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false....
.....in fact all the others [a few thousand], are false except his. This
is the level if intelligence that drives this particular discussion.
Bob
Hong kong
They sometimes ask what evidence it would take to get me to convert. Now
I know: a theist with an original thought. That would be an undeniable
miracle.
[Fred Stone]
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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25 Feb 2004 08:56:29 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:51:17 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false....
....in fact all the others [a few thousand], are false except his. This
is the level if intelligence that drives this particular discussion.
Bob
Hong kong
They sometimes ask what evidence it would take to get me to convert. Now
I know: a theist with an original thought. That would be an undeniable
miracle.
[Fred Stone]
America was great before the onset of atheism and liberalism. These two
things spell the end of America's greatness as we know it.,
"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation which
disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has
ordained."
{George Washington}
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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26 Feb 2004 10:50:38 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> writes:
America was great before the onset of atheism and liberalism. These two
things spell the end of America's greatness as we know it.
I'm with Samuel Huntington and Vernor Vinge in this respect, and
utterly opposed to Leo Strauss.
Strauss believed, as was so clearly articulated by Irving
Kristol, that "There are different kinds of truths for different kinds
of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are
appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated
adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and
the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone
is a modern democratic fallacy."
You are firmly in the camp that believes that "the
popularization of modern philosophical conclusions might import unease,
turmoil and the release of popular passions hitherto held in check by
tradition and religion with utterly unpredictable, but mostly negative,
consequences." (Both quotes from Irving Kristol's radio essay, "The
Influence of Leo Strauss.")
Elf
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Elf M. Sternberg, Proud to be an Extinctionist
http://www.drizzle.com/~elf/
Nisi mecum concubueris, phobistae vicerint.
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| User: "Tom" |
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26 Feb 2004 08:59:53 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:51:17 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false....
....in fact all the others [a few thousand], are false except his. This
is the level if intelligence that drives this particular discussion.
Bob
Hong kong
They sometimes ask what evidence it would take to get me to convert. Now
I know: a theist with an original thought. That would be an undeniable
miracle.
[Fred Stone]
Brainless: America was great before the onset of atheism and liberalism.
These >two things spell the end of America's greatness as we know it.,
Tom: You mean when the blacks were slaves and the church supported it?
"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation which
disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has
ordained."
{George Washington}
Tom: Spoken like a true slave owner.
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| User: "bob young" |
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26 Feb 2004 12:36:29 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:51:17 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Because there isn't a shred of objective evidence that God exists?
Why don't you believe in Krishna?
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false....
....in fact all the others [a few thousand], are false except his. This
is the level if intelligence that drives this particular discussion.
Bob
Hong kong
They sometimes ask what evidence it would take to get me to convert. Now
I know: a theist with an original thought. That would be an undeniable
miracle.
[Fred Stone]
America was great before the onset of atheism and liberalism. These two
things spell the end of America's greatness as we know it.,
Yes China with 1.3 billion people and only about 10% with any religious
beliefs is overttaking the world in growth in GDP. They will be the world
leaders in less than 20 years.
In the news America religion became expendable once decent law structure was
put in place
"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation which
disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has
ordained."
{George Washington}
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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25 Feb 2004 12:20:59 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:21:55 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Because his religion tells him his God is the real one and Krishna is
false.
Mythology is a wonderful thing, huh?
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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22 Feb 2004 10:41:31 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Why is it that you do?
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Mar 2004 11:30:00 AM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com>, Message ID:
<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
No reason to.
Why do you not believe in rationality?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "bob young" |
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01 Mar 2004 10:25:07 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com>, Message ID:
<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Believing in a myth is, inter alia, crassly stupid
Bob
hong kong
No reason to.
Why do you not believe in rationality?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Mar 2004 11:03:33 AM |
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On 1 Mar 2004 22:25:07 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <40440BE9.2443747D@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com>, Message ID:
<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Believing in a myth is, inter alia, crassly stupid
Exactly.
Of course, a question I could have asked the moron was "What is a
g-o-d?"
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "bob young" |
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02 Mar 2004 08:35:09 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On 1 Mar 2004 22:25:07 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <40440BE9.2443747D@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com>, Message ID:
<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Believing in a myth is, inter alia, crassly stupid
Exactly.
Of course, a question I could have asked the moron was "What is a
g-o-d?"
......or mebbe two questions:
"If your god does not show himself to sort out the multitude of doubts that
have been raised over the past 2,000 years, either he is grossly stupid,
incompetent, banal, weak and ineffectual; or 'He' does not exist!
Which is it?
Bob
A Brit. in Hong Kong
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Mar 2004 11:27:41 AM |
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On 2 Mar 2004 20:35:09 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <40454356.F569DC65@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On 1 Mar 2004 22:25:07 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <40440BE9.2443747D@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com>, Message ID:
<NHb_b.140$191.104679@news.uswest.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Believing in a myth is, inter alia, crassly stupid
Exactly.
Of course, a question I could have asked the moron was "What is a
g-o-d?"
.....or mebbe two questions:
"If your god does not show himself to sort out the multitude of doubts that
have been raised over the past 2,000 years, either he is grossly stupid,
incompetent, banal, weak and ineffectual; or 'He' does not exist!
Which is it?
Many questions apply with the resounding silence from christians.
Such is due to a lack of faith on their parts.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Brainfried" |
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22 Feb 2004 06:45:42 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
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| User: "The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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22 Feb 2004 06:47:31 PM |
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"Brainfried" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful lot of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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22 Feb 2004 11:35:10 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> writes:
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful lot of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
Oh, I believe that people like you exist. You're evidence for
it. Understanding where you're coming from is at least a first step to
dispelling your influence.
Elf
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22 Feb 2004 07:09:15 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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"Brainfried" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.00.45.18.267000@way.com...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth
wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful lot
of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
Yes, we spend a lot of time reading things we don't believe in. It's called
FICTION, you stupid *****!
JS
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22 Feb 2004 07:45:11 PM |
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And so upon Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:09:15 +0000 didst Jon Stoll speak thusly:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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"Brainfried" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.00.45.18.267000@way.com...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth
wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful lot
of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
Yes, we spend a lot of time reading things we don't believe in. It's called
FICTION, you stupid *****!
'Sides, what am I reading I don't believe? I believe there are people. And
this thing called Usenet where people post stuff...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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22 Feb 2004 08:12:11 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.01.45.10.728829@hoo.com-amikchi...
And so upon Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:09:15 +0000 didst Jon Stoll speak thusly:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:D4c_b.153$191.108680@news.uswest.net...
"Brainfried" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.00.45.18.267000@way.com...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth
wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful
lot
of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
Yes, we spend a lot of time reading things we don't believe in. It's
called
FICTION, you stupid *****!
'Sides, what am I reading I don't believe? I believe there are people. And
this thing called Usenet where people post stuff...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say? If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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22 Feb 2004 11:37:46 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> writes:
+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say? If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
There can be no doubt, if God exists, that He knows what
constitutes "sufficient evidence" for the individual to conclude that He
exists. That he has done so for some (you, for example), and not for
others (me, for example) is contradictory to the notion of universal
love and mercy that is supposedly one of his qualities.
Elf
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
23 Feb 2004 11:45:27 AM |
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In article <_jd_b.222$884.62320@news.uswest.net>, The Church of The Painful
Truth says...
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+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
Better yet, let's just say I don't see any.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say?
Objective, verifiable, extra-biblical evidence.
If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
See above - I can call myself anything I want, thank you very much, and don't
need your permission to do so.
Get over yourself. You're not that important.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
23 Feb 2004 06:53:05 AM |
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The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.01.45.10.728829@hoo.com-amikchi...
And so upon Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:09:15 +0000 didst Jon Stoll speak thusly:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
news:D4c_b.153$191.108680@news.uswest.net...
"Brainfried" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.23.00.45.18.267000@way.com...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:21:00 -0700, The Church of The Painful Truth
wrote:
Why is it that you do not believe in God?
Oh gosh...here we go again...
Why do you have such a problem that we don't believe in your god when
you've discarded belief in the god(s) of all other religions?
+You know it's funny, atheists like yourself seem to spend an awful
lot
of
time reading things you supposedly don't believe.+
Yes, we spend a lot of time reading things we don't believe in. It's
called
FICTION, you stupid *****!
'Sides, what am I reading I don't believe? I believe there are people. And
this thing called Usenet where people post stuff...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say? If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
......you have been clutching at straws for so long I wonder if you have any
left to clutch!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
23 Feb 2004 09:15:18 AM |
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And so upon Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:53:05 -0600:
<piggybacking, snippage, the usual disclaimers>
The Church of The Pain in the Butt wrote:
+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say? If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
Skippy, first of all, go look up "kill file." As in, you're in mine okay?
I only see your tripe if somebody bothers to reply.
But this one, I couldn't let pass. Here's the deal:
This "god" is allegedly omniscient and omnipotent right? Knows all, sees
all, can do all.
I do NOT have to specify "what kind of things" I would accept as evidence.
Your "god," if it existed, would already know. Better, by the way, than
*I* would (better, also, than you or any other proselytizing twerp).
And being all powerful and not limited by time, this "god" could convince
anyone at any time. Better than you could.
By the way, don't even try the "free will" nonsense. If "god" convincing
someone of his existence is a destruction of "free will," then *anyone
(including you) convincing someone "god" exists is *also destruction of
"free will."
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Question For Atheists? |
23 Feb 2004 07:00:48 AM |
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Piggyback....
On 23 Feb 2004 06:53:05 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
+Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for god's existence.
But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd accept, within reason,
as evidence for God, what would you say? If you have nothing to offer, then
you haven't thought your position through... and if you haven't done that,
then can you honestly lay claim to the title 'atheist'?
.....you have been clutching at straws for so long I wonder if you have any
left to clutch!
It's why so many of them get treated like the stupid idiots they show
themselves to be.
They miss the remarkably simple point that no matter how "real" it is
to them, it is merely somebody else's religious belief to us.
No different than eg Allah, Zeus, Krishna etc are to them.
Which is hardly rocket science.
Yet they still talk at us as though it were universally granted.
"Let's just say you don't see sufficient evidence for Odin's
existence. But, if a person asked you what kind of things you'd
accept, within reason, as evidence for Odin, what would you say? If
you have nothing to offer, then you haven't thought your position
through... and if you haven't done that, then can you honestly lay
claim to the title 'non-believer in Odin'?"
Or Osiris, or Mithras, or even Santa Claus.
Sheesh.
Sometimes I wonder how these morons can even operate a computer.
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