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"Bill Gamelson" |
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15 Nov 2005 10:37:37 PM |
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Question for "Evolutionists" |
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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16 Nov 2005 09:30:56 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:37:37 -0600 in alt.atheism, Bill Gamelson
("Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
Well, I suppose it's not impossible, but as I understand it the
beginnings would have had to have been a *very* long time ago given
that all life is Carbon / DNA based, and has quite a lot of it in
common.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions
Billions of years, if they originated life on Earth.
of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
Well, no, at least not unless you can think of a way to test the idea.
With no way to test it, it's simply a diverting speculation.
I suppose one might plow through the DNA of various species seeing if
there's the equivalent of a copyright message in there somewhere, but
other than that, I can't think of an experiment or observation that
would support or deny the idea.
Can you?
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "Jim07D5" |
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15 Nov 2005 10:50:25 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> said:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
Would it satisfy you?
--- Jim07D5
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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15 Nov 2005 10:57:15 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:50:25 GMT, Jim07D5 <Jim07D5@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> said:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
Would it satisfy you?
The moron reduces it to "believe in", and then tacks on something
there is no reason to consider.
--- Jim07D5
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| User: "stoney" |
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17 Nov 2005 10:22:11 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:57:15 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:50:25 GMT, Jim07D5 <Jim07D5@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> said:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
Would it satisfy you?
The moron reduces it to "believe in", and then tacks on something
there is no reason to consider.
Normal Christian 'honesty.'
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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15 Nov 2005 11:09:14 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> writes:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I don't "believe" it. I conclude that it's a possibility. We
already know that the universe sustains intelligent life-- ourselves,
for example-- and that the conditions that sustain us are not unique in
some way. Adopting what is known as the principle of mediocrity-- the
premise that the laws of physics are everywhere the same in the visible
universe-- we can conclude that it is possible that intelligent life
exists elsewhere.
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right? You could get a science fiction novel out of it-- oh, wait,
that's been done-- but otherwise you're not saying anything thousands of
stoned college kids haven't said before.
Elf
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Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.drizzle.com/~elf
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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16 Nov 2005 12:11:00 AM |
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"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87acg57bl1.fsf@drizzle.com...
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> writes:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I don't "believe" it. I conclude that it's a possibility. We
already know that the universe sustains intelligent life-- ourselves,
for example-- and that the conditions that sustain us are not unique in
some way. Adopting what is known as the principle of mediocrity-- the
premise that the laws of physics are everywhere the same in the visible
universe-- we can conclude that it is possible that intelligent life
exists elsewhere.
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised the
real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
You could get a science fiction novel out of it-- oh, wait,
that's been done-- but otherwise you're not saying anything thousands of
stoned college kids haven't said before.
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now? Woul;d
you have had any expectation for him when he dropped out of high school?
What if I had told you then that he would someday be a billionair by making
a dream come true?
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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16 Nov 2005 01:25:51 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6Ouef.14247$0l5.7457@dukeread06:
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87acg57bl1.fsf@drizzle.com...
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> writes:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I don't "believe" it. I conclude that it's a possibility. We
already know that the universe sustains intelligent life-- ourselves,
for example-- and that the conditions that sustain us are not unique in
some way. Adopting what is known as the principle of mediocrity-- the
premise that the laws of physics are everywhere the same in the visible
universe-- we can conclude that it is possible that intelligent life
exists elsewhere.
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised
the real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
Not at all. No one has presented any verifiable evidence for such.
You could get a science fiction novel out of it-- oh, wait,
that's been done-- but otherwise you're not saying anything thousands
of stoned college kids haven't said before.
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now?
He dropped out of Harvard, not high school. Whether he was stoned or not is
another question ;-).
Klazmon.
<SNIP>
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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16 Nov 2005 01:29:35 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns971092CCBD572Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised
the real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
Not at all. No one has presented any verifiable evidence for such.
Do you need verifyable evidence to speculate about something?
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now?
He dropped out of Harvard, not high school. Whether he was stoned or not
is
another question ;-).
I heard he dropped out of high school. He was arrested for possession of
marijuana, and by the looks of his mugshot, he was definately stoned.
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| User: "nafc" |
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15 Nov 2005 09:34:06 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:RXvef.14265$0l5.8352@dukeread06...
"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns971092CCBD572Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised
the real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
Not at all. No one has presented any verifiable evidence for such.
Do you need verifyable evidence to speculate about something?
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now?
He dropped out of Harvard, not high school. Whether he was stoned or not
is
another question ;-).
I heard he dropped out of high school. He was arrested for possession of
marijuana, and by the looks of his mugshot, he was definately stoned.
Is this the mugshot you're talking about?
http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bill-gates.html
nafc
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| User: "Jesus Sucks" |
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16 Nov 2005 01:43:13 AM |
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"nafc" <nafc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ivsef.43$416.38@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:RXvef.14265$0l5.8352@dukeread06...
"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns971092CCBD572Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of
a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might
be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised
the real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
Not at all. No one has presented any verifiable evidence for such.
Do you need verifyable evidence to speculate about something?
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now?
He dropped out of Harvard, not high school. Whether he was stoned or not
is
another question ;-).
I heard he dropped out of high school. He was arrested for possession of
marijuana, and by the looks of his mugshot, he was definately stoned.
Is this the mugshot you're talking about?
http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bill-gates.html
Yep, he must be stoned 'cause he's smiling!
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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16 Nov 2005 01:47:51 AM |
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"nafc" <nafc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ivsef.43$416.38@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
I heard he dropped out of high school. He was arrested for possession of
marijuana, and by the looks of his mugshot, he was definately stoned.
Is this the mugshot you're talking about?
http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bill-gates.html
Yes.
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| User: "Colin Day" |
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17 Nov 2005 08:49:34 PM |
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Bill Gamelson wrote:
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87acg57bl1.fsf@drizzle.com...
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> writes:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
But if you invoke them to explain life on this planet, then you must
still explain how they came to be. In the absence of any evidence,
this just isn't an explanation.
I don't "believe" it. I conclude that it's a possibility. We
already know that the universe sustains intelligent life-- ourselves,
for example-- and that the conditions that sustain us are not unique in
some way. Adopting what is known as the principle of mediocrity-- the
premise that the laws of physics are everywhere the same in the visible
universe-- we can conclude that it is possible that intelligent life
exists elsewhere.
The rest of your post is sophomoric conjecture straight out of a
Douglas Adams novel. Where's the evidence to suggest that you might be
right?
The fact that many people have claimed to have sighted UFO's and raised the
real possibility that these may be alians from another planet.
I call *****.
You could get a science fiction novel out of it-- oh, wait,
that's been done-- but otherwise you're not saying anything thousands of
stoned college kids haven't said before.
Bill Gates was a stoned high school dropout, and look at him now? Woul;d
you have had any expectation for him when he dropped out of high school?
Why not? He had rich paremts.
What if I had told you then that he would someday be a billionair by making
a dream come true?
A dream, or a nightmare?
Colin Day aa #1500
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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16 Nov 2005 12:45:38 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I consider it to be plausible but without further evidence I leave it at
that.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
You have three separate questions there. First, what do you mean by
created? Second what do you mean by universe did evolve? Third if you are
asking if other intelligent life developed somewhere else first well that
is a possibility but would need verifiable evidence to come to any
conclusion.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans.
Not really. What does cloning have to do with it. That occurs every time
identitical twins are born.
How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet
that we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years
ahead of us in technology and they created us as a long-term science
experiment in their search to explain THEIR existence?
Pointless speculation without supporting evidence.
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence,
would it not?
Look up Occam's razor.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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16 Nov 2005 12:55:51 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns97108BFB1BE29Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
You have three separate questions there. First, what do you mean by
created?
What kind of a question is that? Look it up.
Second what do you mean by universe did evolve?
Exactly as it is theorized by the Big Bang. The speculation is that the
universe evolved before the alians existed, then we were created by them.
They may have evolved just as evolution theorizes, but since they would be
millions of years ahead of us, they have discovered the process of life and
we are the evidence that they were searching for.
Third if you are
asking if other intelligent life developed somewhere else first well that
is a possibility but would need verifiable evidence to come to any
conclusion.
Which would take many years of scientific advances to find the evidence.
That is of course unless these alians give us a visit and let us in on what
they have discovered.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans.
Not really. What does cloning have to do with it. That occurs every time
identitical twins are born.
Yes, but that is done automatically, not manually.
How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet
that we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years
ahead of us in technology and they created us as a long-term science
experiment in their search to explain THEIR existence?
Pointless speculation without supporting evidence.
That is correct. I am asking if you think this may be possible, not that
there is any supporting evidence at this time.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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16 Nov 2005 01:07:06 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:csvef.14258$0l5.3108@dukeread06:
"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns97108BFB1BE29Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
You have three separate questions there. First, what do you mean by
created?
What kind of a question is that? Look it up.
Created ex nihilo, tinkered with, shaped ... etc?
Second what do you mean by universe did evolve?
Exactly as it is theorized by the Big Bang.
ok I accept that as the best available scientific theory today.
The speculation is that the
universe evolved before the alians existed, then we were created by
them. They may have evolved just as evolution theorizes, but since they
would be millions of years ahead of us, they have discovered the process
of life and we are the evidence that they were searching for.
Wild speculation. Might be fun as a science fiction story but I think it's
already been done.
Third if you are
asking if other intelligent life developed somewhere else first well
that is a possibility but would need verifiable evidence to come to any
conclusion.
Which would take many years of scientific advances to find the evidence.
That is of course unless these alians give us a visit and let us in on
what they have discovered.
Sure. Until then it's idle speculation.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to
CREATE humans.
Not really. What does cloning have to do with it. That occurs every
time identitical twins are born.
Yes, but that is done automatically, not manually.
So what?
How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet
that we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years
ahead of us in technology and they created us as a long-term science
experiment in their search to explain THEIR existence?
Pointless speculation without supporting evidence.
That is correct. I am asking if you think this may be possible, not
that there is any supporting evidence at this time.
My own opinion is that while there may possibly be other intelligent life
forms out there. I consider it most unlikely that any such have interferred
with Earth in any way. There is nothing about life on Earth that doesn't
make sense as arising and evolving locally without external interference as
deduced from the available evidence. I would reconsider if suitable
evidence to the contary is discovered.
Klazmon.
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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15 Nov 2005 10:52:10 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I'm not convinced there is intelligent life on *this* planet.
Given how retarded your troll is, and how many repsonses it will, no doubt,
get.
--
"So there is no third law of Terrydynamics."
-- William Hyde
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
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| User: "Woden" |
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15 Nov 2005 11:25:42 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06:
Even before reading this, I can tell that it's obviously slanted by a
not-so-honest xian. The use of the word "evolutionist" is a dead
giveaway. Only xians trying to sell their myths use that word.
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I believe that it could be possible.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
There is no evidence of this and the physics of them traveling here and
accomplishing such a task make the possiblity of it happening extremely
small (about zero).
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to
CREATE humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant
planet that we have been long searching for are not simply millions of
years ahead of us in technology and they created us as a long-term
science experiment in their search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence,
would it not?
If you could show how they violated the laws of physics, then you might
have a case. Which leads to another interesting question. Where did
these alien intelligent designers come from? Were they designed and
created by an even older and more advanced group of aliens and then where
did these aliens come from; were they designed by an even more older and
advanced group of aliens, etc...? Or did somewhere along the line did
some of them evolve on their own planet? (In which case, if they could do
it, why can't we?) The end result of this is at some point, you have to
admit that you think some god did it (and your thinly veiled "intelligent
design" shows its religious basis) or you have to accept evolution as
resulting in intelligent life.
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "kathryn" |
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16 Nov 2005 07:42:04 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
I believe there is a possibility based on what is currently known about our
planet and the universe
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
???????? unless there's evidence to suggest this then no
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that
we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of
us in technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in
their search to explain THEIR existence?
Isn't that why the mice had us created?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would
it not?
To ultimately solve the answer to life, the universe and everything?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Nov 2005 10:21:55 PM |
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In <dlg22c$77e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "kathryn"
<nospam@here.com> wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I believe there is a possibility based on what is currently known about
our planet and the universe
42!
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
???????? unless there's evidence to suggest this then no
42!
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet
that we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years
ahead of us in technology and they created us as a long-term science
experiment in their search to explain THEIR existence?
Isn't that why the mice had us created?
42!
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence,
would it not?
To ultimately solve the answer to life, the universe and everything?
42!
(So long and thanks for all the fish!)
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 04:48:28 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that
we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of
us in technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in
their search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would
it not?
Then, who created the creators?
Elephants...er...creators all the way down?
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| User: "ManMadeGod" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 09:53:33 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
Entirely possible, yes.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
No, unless they experimented with single-celled organisims, dinosaurs and
millions of other species before "creating" the human species.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that
we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of
us in technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in
their search to explain THEIR existence?
Facts and common logic show that we evolved and weren't just created 2,000
years ago. See this chart:
http://anthro.palomar.edu/earlyprimates/time_scale_of_Earth.htm
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 04:53:14 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
This has "what" to do with evolution?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 02:14:28 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
What does this have to do with evolution?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "nafc" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
15 Nov 2005 10:52:22 PM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
Yes I do, and this is the important part, I _believe_ there's intellegent
life on other planets somewhere out there in the universe. I'd be real
surpised if there wasn't.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It's called Raelism. http://www.answers.com/topic/raelism
I think it's nonsense since there's no emperical evidence to support it.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE
humans. How do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that
we have been long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of
us in technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in
their search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would
it not?
Again, this is the important part, it's a _belief_ not a scientific theory
since there's no empirical evidence to support it. Therefore, it should
never be taught in a science class.
nafc
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| User: "Cardinal Numbaz" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 05:33:22 PM |
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nafc wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zqtef.14225$0l5.510@dukeread06...
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
Yes I do, and this is the important part, I _believe_ there's intellegent
life on other planets somewhere out there in the universe. I'd be real
surpised if there wasn't.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It's called Raelism. http://www.answers.com/topic/raelism
I think it's nonsense since there's no emperical evidence to support it.
http://www.houseoflyrics.com/d/artists/the_who/songs/rael.html
And I always thought they were singing "Will always fill their
boilers".
Makes about as much sense.
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| User: "Alan S" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 07:30:41 AM |
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"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
Possible. It's also possible ours was a fluke.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us, the
universe did evolve, and they were here first?
Pretty much NIL.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
Given that there aren't any anomalies in our history that need be
explained in such an out of this world manner, I would say not.
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| User: "Psycho Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
15 Nov 2005 10:53:58 PM |
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Bill Gamelson wrote:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other planets?
I believe it is certainly a possibility.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us,
the universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It is highly doubtful. The distances between stars is so great as to
make such a thing very difficult. Why travel to a distant planet to
creat new life, when you can simply create is on your own world, or on
a world closer to your own? You cannot travel faster than light. It is
technically unfeasable. If you could travel 1/2 the speed of light,
you're still talking about at least an 8-to-10-year voyage just to get
to earth from another star system.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans. How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
Again -- it sounds like they would be going far out of their way to do
that, when it would be easier to just do it closer to home.
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would it
not?
No. it is simply a wild speculation. When you consider the realities of
space travel, the realities of speed and distance in space, and the
realities of PRACTICALITY, it doesn't sound scientific at all.
Besides, the facts does not lead in that direction. The facts suggest
that we, being made out of the same minerals that are spewed from
volcanoes, being made of the raw materials that cover the earth,
originated here, and that the earth itself provides the raw materials
to make us.
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
15 Nov 2005 11:56:59 PM |
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"Psycho Dave" <psycho@weirdcrap.com> wrote in message
news:1132095238.894852.215700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I believe it is certainly a possibility.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us,
the universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It is highly doubtful. The distances between stars is so great as to
make such a thing very difficult. Why travel to a distant planet to
creat new life, when you can simply create is on your own world, or on
a world closer to your own?
Perhaps because this is the closest planet that can sustain human life.
You cannot travel faster than light.
Really? How do you know this? Because of today's technology and science?
Remember that we would be dealing with life forms that are millions of years
ahead of us. We did break the speed of sound after it was first believed
that it could not be done. We think we know that light speed cannot be
broken, but how do you know that millions of years in technological advances
won't find a way to do it.
It is
technically unfeasible. If you could travel 1/2 the speed of light,
you're still talking about at least an 8-to-10-year voyage just to get
to earth from another star system.
Ok, then if you went 20 times the speed of light, you could get there 40
times faster.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans.
How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
Again -- it sounds like they would be going far out of their way to do
that, when it would be easier to just do it closer to home.
Again, earth may be the closest planet that is capable of sustaining human
life. Have we found one yet even in our known galaxy?
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would
it
not?
No. it is simply a wild speculation.
Scientific proof begins with wild speculation.
When you consider the realities of
space travel, the realities of speed and distance in space, and the
realities of PRACTICALITY, it doesn't sound scientific at all.
Again, you are assuming this using today's technology and science. These
critters would be millions of years ahead of us.
Besides, the facts does not lead in that direction. The facts suggest
that we, being made out of the same minerals that are spewed from
volcanoes, being made of the raw materials that cover the earth,
originated here, and that the earth itself provides the raw materials
to make us.
Yes! These critters would know this and would create the micro-organisms
necessary to begin the process of evolution. We are assuming that evolution
is true.
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| User: "nafc" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
15 Nov 2005 10:59:28 PM |
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"Psycho Dave" <psycho@weirdcrap.com> wrote in message
news:1132095238.894852.215700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I believe it is certainly a possibility.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us,
the universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It is highly doubtful. The distances between stars is so great as to
make such a thing very difficult. Why travel to a distant planet to
creat new life, when you can simply create is on your own world, or on
a world closer to your own? You cannot travel faster than light. It is
technically unfeasable. If you could travel 1/2 the speed of light,
you're still talking about at least an 8-to-10-year voyage just to get
to earth from another star system.
Problem is you're assuming the alien's level of technical and scientific
knowledge is no greater than ours. What if they're millions if not billions
of years more advanced than us.
After all, we have successfully cloned animals and are very close to
cloning
human beings. This is the first step in learning how to CREATE humans.
How
do you know that these space aliens on a distant planet that we have been
long searching for are not simply millions of years ahead of us in
technology and they created us as a long-term science experiment in their
search to explain THEIR existence?
Again -- it sounds like they would be going far out of their way to do
that, when it would be easier to just do it closer to home.
That would be a plausible scientific explanation for our existence, would
it
not?
No. it is simply a wild speculation. When you consider the realities of
space travel, the realities of speed and distance in space, and the
realities of PRACTICALITY, it doesn't sound scientific at all.
Besides, the facts does not lead in that direction. The facts suggest
that we, being made out of the same minerals that are spewed from
volcanoes, being made of the raw materials that cover the earth,
originated here, and that the earth itself provides the raw materials
to make us.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: Question for "Evolutionists" |
16 Nov 2005 12:48:40 AM |
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"nafc" <nafc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:kLtef.420$Y%5.76@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:
"Psycho Dave" <psycho@weirdcrap.com> wrote in message
news:1132095238.894852.215700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
Do you really believe that there may be intelligent life on other
planets?
I believe it is certainly a possibility.
If so, what about the possibility that THEY may have created us,
the universe did evolve, and they were here first?
It is highly doubtful. The distances between stars is so great as to
make such a thing very difficult. Why travel to a distant planet to
creat new life, when you can simply create is on your own world, or on
a world closer to your own? You cannot travel faster than light. It is
technically unfeasable. If you could travel 1/2 the speed of light,
you're still talking about at least an 8-to-10-year voyage just to get
to earth from another star system.
Problem is you're assuming the alien's level of technical and scientific
knowledge is no greater than ours. What if they're millions if not
billions of years more advanced than us.
What it there are invisible pixies that created the world last Monday? It's
useless speculation without evidence to even entertain it other than as
fiction.
Klazmon.
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