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"Bill" |
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12 Jan 2005 12:44:16 PM |
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Questions about the Trinity of God? |
Some questions for experts on Christian religion;
God is supposedly made up of God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Who was God the fathers wife? Who was Jesus's mother before he was born of
the virgin Mary?
If God the Father did not have a wife, how did he father a son?
Who is the Holy Ghost? Is he an uncle? What is his function?
If this trinity is all powerful and created the Universe and everything in
it, why did it create such
fallible, errant and grossly imperfect men and earthly catastrophes and
diseases of every
imaginable kind? Why did this supposedly infallible God make these many
serious
mistakes in his creation?
If God created everything, why did he create sin and punishment for the sins
he created?
What is his purpose of putting man on earth to suffer from hunger, diseases
and catastrophes and then
usually experience a painful old age and death before being delivered to an
infinitely pleasant and
perpetual heaven?
Does God enjoy toying with and torturing his creations?
Bill
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
15 Jan 2005 08:54:58 PM |
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On 15 Jan 2005 14:57:16 -0800, wrote:
Thanks for the abuse, which is much appreciated. Do let me know when
you propose to apologise for the trolling and nastiness.
I notice you make no attempt to talk about your religious position.
I'd be ashamed of it too, if I behaved like you.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Plonk noted.
All the best,
Jos Flachs
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
15 Jan 2005 08:54:56 PM |
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On 15 Jan 2005 11:35:52 -0800, wrote:
Your failure to answer it is noted.
Troll noted.
Troll identified: Roger Pearse.
And are you saying I am a Christian hater? YES or NO.
Response by making demands noted.
No serious answer observed.
Be careful, there is a particularly dreadful Biblical punishment
waiting for false accusers.
Blasphemy noted.
Biblical ignorance observed.
Just another tedious little Christian-hating atheist...
Troll noted.
All the best,
Jos Flachs
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
15 Jan 2005 08:54:55 PM |
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On 15 Jan 2005 08:09:54 -0800, wrote:
That's interesting. Have those (including the above poster) in this
thread who challenge the doctrine of the Trinity declared themselves
as atheist? Or is it that anyone who challenges it is an atheist (eg,
many of the early Christians and pretty well all the Eastern Orthodox
Christians)? Or maybe it is that anyone who challenges your
particular
religious doctrines (and there are over 1000 different Christian
denominations, sects and cults) is an atheist.
It is always amusing to watch Christian-haters weasel with little
diatribes phrased as questions. Thanks for the illustration of my
comment.
It is interesting to watch a scholar turning into a fundy troll. When
I first read your postings, I admired you, even though I didn't share
your point of view. By now you have managed to better pastors dave and
frank.
It was a pleasure meeting you. But the parting is less pleasurable.
All the best,
Jos Flachs
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
15 Jan 2005 10:00:52 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:54:55 +0700, Jos Flachs
<"wcruise"@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 15 Jan 2005 08:09:54 -0800, wrote:
That's interesting. Have those (including the above poster) in this
thread who challenge the doctrine of the Trinity declared themselves
as atheist? Or is it that anyone who challenges it is an atheist (eg,
many of the early Christians and pretty well all the Eastern Orthodox
Christians)? Or maybe it is that anyone who challenges your
particular
religious doctrines (and there are over 1000 different Christian
denominations, sects and cults) is an atheist.
It is always amusing to watch Christian-haters weasel with little
diatribes phrased as questions. Thanks for the illustration of my
comment.
It is interesting to watch a scholar turning into a fundy troll. When
I first read your postings, I admired you, even though I didn't share
your point of view. By now you have managed to better pastors dave and
frank.
It was a pleasure meeting you. But the parting is less pleasurable.
When was he a scholar?
He was doing this crap almost immediately I got sucked into "debate"
with him in 2001.
All the best,
Jos Flachs
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| User: "William" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
13 Jan 2005 05:07:09 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:32:03 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:44:16 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
[snip]
If this trinity is all powerful and created the Universe and everything in
it, why did it create such
fallible, errant and grossly imperfect men and earthly catastrophes and
diseases of every
Because he wanted man to have a free will, and that free will even amounted to
telling God "NO". Mankind showed he did not have the right stuff, so God kicked
him out of the garden to "reflect" on his shortcomings and allowed to practice
being a god. And we made a royal mess, as one would expect, of things.
Yes, but all that is in biblecal text which Christians don't take as
being literally true. It seems silly to build an explanation of the
state of the world on something that is not literally true.
William
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim?" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
12 Jan 2005 07:49:26 PM |
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god enjoys murdering children
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4eeFd.8034$7N1.5538@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Some questions for experts on Christian religion;
God is supposedly made up of God the Father, God the Son and the Holy
Ghost.
Who was God the fathers wife? Who was Jesus's mother before he was born of
the virgin Mary?
If God the Father did not have a wife, how did he father a son?
Who is the Holy Ghost? Is he an uncle? What is his function?
If this trinity is all powerful and created the Universe and everything in
it, why did it create such
fallible, errant and grossly imperfect men and earthly catastrophes and
diseases of every
imaginable kind? Why did this supposedly infallible God make these many
serious
mistakes in his creation?
If God created everything, why did he create sin and punishment for the
sins
he created?
What is his purpose of putting man on earth to suffer from hunger,
diseases
and catastrophes and then
usually experience a painful old age and death before being delivered to
an
infinitely pleasant and
perpetual heaven?
Does God enjoy toying with and torturing his creations?
Bill
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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13 Jan 2005 01:12:40 AM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim? wrote:
god enjoys murdering children
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
See http://abortion.jcsm.org
Regards,
Jason
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4eeFd.8034$7N1.5538@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Some questions for experts on Christian religion;
God is supposedly made up of God the Father, God the Son and the Holy
Ghost.
Who was God the fathers wife? Who was Jesus's mother before he was
born of the virgin Mary?
If God the Father did not have a wife, how did he father a son?
Who is the Holy Ghost? Is he an uncle? What is his function?
If this trinity is all powerful and created the Universe and
everything in it, why did it create such
fallible, errant and grossly imperfect men and earthly catastrophes
and diseases of every
imaginable kind? Why did this supposedly infallible God make these
many serious
mistakes in his creation?
If God created everything, why did he create sin and punishment for
the sins
he created?
What is his purpose of putting man on earth to suffer from hunger,
diseases
and catastrophes and then
usually experience a painful old age and death before being
delivered to an
infinitely pleasant and
perpetual heaven?
Does God enjoy toying with and torturing his creations?
Bill
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
13 Jan 2005 06:13:35 AM |
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"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim? wrote:
god enjoys murdering children
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
See http://abortion.jcsm.org
Regards,
Jason
Do you know that there's no evidence your god exists?
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| User: "iceman" |
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13 Jan 2005 02:09:35 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against
abortion?
And? Elmer Fudd, Spiderman and Zippy the Pinhead are all against
abortion as well. Why don't you babble on about that for awhile.
Does anyone know Homer Simpson's position on this issue?
Christian
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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13 Jan 2005 04:27:02 PM |
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iceman wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against
abortion?
And? Elmer Fudd, Spiderman and Zippy the Pinhead are all against
abortion as well. Why don't you babble on about that for awhile.
Does anyone know Homer Simpson's position on this issue?
I believe he's against it, based on one older episode where he was
trying to resign himself to raising a fourth kid when he thought Marge
was pregnant.
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Richard Smol" |
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13 Jan 2005 02:12:37 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim? wrote:
god enjoys murdering children
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against
abortion?
You obviously missed the part where God kills all the first-born
children of Egypt. And then there's Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against
the stones."
RS
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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13 Jan 2005 08:12:12 PM |
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On 12 Jan 2005, Jason Gastrich dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
Did you know that gays have fewer abortions than Catholics?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you
wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Jan 2005 09:22:13 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:12 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> said in alt.atheism:
On 12 Jan 2005, Jason Gastrich dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
Did you know that gays have fewer abortions than Catholics?
Well ... so do atheists. Fewer divorces too.
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Jan 2005 09:21:06 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:12:40 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> said in alt.atheism:
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
The ONLY "evidence" of his feelings on abortion shows that he
considers it a civil tort between the abortionist and the father.
Everything else is interpretation.
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faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Questions about the Trinity of God? |
13 Jan 2005 03:53:28 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:12:40 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:
god enjoys murdering children
Did you know that there is ample evidence that God is against abortion?
Did you know your god is the biggest aborter of all? Most pregnancies
end in a natural abortion. That one could explain as god doesn't want
this child to be born.
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Jan 2005 09:37:20 PM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim? wrote:
god enjoys murdering children
Totally, completely false; wrong, misleading nonsense, crap, incorrect.
There ain't no gods, so they cannot 'enjoy' anything
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4eeFd.8034$7N1.5538@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Some questions for experts on Christian religion;
God is supposedly made up of God the Father, God the Son and the Holy
Ghost.
Who was God the fathers wife? Who was Jesus's mother before he was born of
the virgin Mary?
If God the Father did not have a wife, how did he father a son?
Who is the Holy Ghost? Is he an uncle? What is his function?
If this trinity is all powerful and created the Universe and everything in
it, why did it create such
fallible, errant and grossly imperfect men and earthly catastrophes and
diseases of every
imaginable kind? Why did this supposedly infallible God make these many
serious
mistakes in his creation?
If God created everything, why did he create sin and punishment for the
sins
he created?
What is his purpose of putting man on earth to suffer from hunger,
diseases
and catastrophes and then
usually experience a painful old age and death before being delivered to
an
infinitely pleasant and
perpetual heaven?
Does God enjoy toying with and torturing his creations?
Bill
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