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"MarkA" |
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01 Dec 2003 06:48:15 AM |
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Rabbit Proof Fence |
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law, a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants, and
to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be child
abuse.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Khartoum" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
01 Dec 2003 08:07:55 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law, a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants, and
to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be child
abuse.
I've been wanting to watch that movie. I will probably have to watch it
when my wife is not around because, unlike me, she hates most independent
films. If it doesn't have a happy Hollywood ending, she usually does not
like it. A couple of weeks ago I dragged her to see "My Life Without Me".
She cried for a good four hours _after_ the movie. It will probably be a
good 6 more months before I will be able to pick a movie for the two of us
to watch.
Thanks for the suggestion,
--
***********************************************
Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm; they
wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men of science,
they know that neither is infallible. But when two theologians differ,
since there is no criteria to which either can appeal, there is nothing for
it but mutual hatred and an open or covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
01 Dec 2003 08:55:51 AM |
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"Khartoum" <KhartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law,
a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful
story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants,
and
to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so
many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach
into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and
yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be
child
abuse.
I've been wanting to watch that movie. I will probably have to watch it
when my wife is not around because, unlike me, she hates most independent
films. If it doesn't have a happy Hollywood ending, she usually does not
like it. A couple of weeks ago I dragged her to see "My Life Without Me".
She cried for a good four hours _after_ the movie. It will probably be a
good 6 more months before I will be able to pick a movie for the two of us
to watch.
my mother watched it, and loved it. I can't stand things like that, so I
haven't seen it. I've occasionally met some of the 'stolen generation' who
are still searching for their siblings and other relatives. it's too sad for
me to watch it, and makes me ashamed of our government, who refuse a simple
apology for the white australia policy of child relocation
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| User: "Khartoum" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
01 Dec 2003 11:33:42 AM |
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"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Khartoum" <KhartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my
bro-in-law,
a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful
story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They
would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants,
and
to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity
in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times
when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so
many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their
diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes
me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts
of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach
into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and
yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be
child
abuse.
I've been wanting to watch that movie. I will probably have to watch it
when my wife is not around because, unlike me, she hates most
independent
films. If it doesn't have a happy Hollywood ending, she usually does
not
like it. A couple of weeks ago I dragged her to see "My Life Without
Me".
She cried for a good four hours _after_ the movie. It will probably be
a
good 6 more months before I will be able to pick a movie for the two of
us
to watch.
my mother watched it, and loved it. I can't stand things like that, so I
haven't seen it. I've occasionally met some of the 'stolen generation' who
are still searching for their siblings and other relatives. it's too sad
for
me to watch it, and makes me ashamed of our government, who refuse a
simple
apology for the white australia policy of child relocation
The Australian government will probably take their cue from the Vatican and
wait a couple hundred years to apologize.
--
***********************************************
Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm; they
wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men of science,
they know that neither is infallible. But when two theologians differ,
since there is no criteria to which either can appeal, there is nothing for
it but mutual hatred and an open or covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
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| User: "Tink" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
01 Dec 2003 01:25:36 PM |
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Khartoum wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law, a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants, and
to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be child
abuse.
I've been wanting to watch that movie. I will probably have to watch it
when my wife is not around because, unlike me, she hates most independent
films. If it doesn't have a happy Hollywood ending, she usually does not
like it. A couple of weeks ago I dragged her to see "My Life Without Me".
She cried for a good four hours _after_ the movie. It will probably be a
good 6 more months before I will be able to pick a movie for the two of us
to watch.
Thanks for the suggestion,
--
***********************************************
Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm; they
wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men of science,
they know that neither is infallible. But when two theologians differ,
since there is no criteria to which either can appeal, there is nothing for
it but mutual hatred and an open or covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Awesome sig line.
--
It seems odd that those who scoff at sun worshippers are apt to worship
a vacuum.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
02 Dec 2003 06:46:59 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:25:36 +0000, Tink wrote:
Khartoum wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law,
a real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful
story of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time,
the whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who
were half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They
would put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic
servants, and to teach them Christianity.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so
many people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their
diety wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it
makes me sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how
many acts of charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I
could reach into my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a
few times, and yell "Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't
trying to spread their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that
would probably be child abuse.
I've been wanting to watch that movie. I will probably have to watch it
when my wife is not around because, unlike me, she hates most
independent films. If it doesn't have a happy Hollywood ending, she
usually does not like it. A couple of weeks ago I dragged her to see
"My Life Without Me". She cried for a good four hours _after_ the movie.
It will probably be a good 6 more months before I will be able to pick
a movie for the two of us to watch.
Thanks for the suggestion,
--
*********************************************** Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm;
they wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men of
science, they know that neither is infallible. But when two theologians
differ, since there is no criteria to which either can appeal, there is
nothing for it but mutual hatred and an open or covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Awesome sig line.
I've always liked your "World Famous...never heard of you either!" sig,
Tink.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "\Clayton Driving His Temple Into The Money Changers" |
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01 Dec 2003 06:39:15 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law, a
real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful story
of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time, the
whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who were
half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They would
put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic servants, and
to teach them Christianity.
I should also add that it's a true story and one of the now grown girls
acted as a consultant. It won several Australian Film Institute awards
(usually refered to as the Australian Oscars), including Best Picture.
While not quite as horrific as torturing little girls to death for
witchcraft, it does provide yet another example of the misery that has
been promulgated by religious evangelism in general, and Christianity in
particular, when the strong bully the weak "for their own good."
Perhaps Jesus, if he existed at all, got very discouraged at times when
his message of humanism seemed to be falling on deaf ears. I see so many
people committing so many acts of cruelty in the belief that their diety
wants them to act that way for the good of the heathens that it makes me
sick. Every time some ***** like "derng" brags about how many acts of
charity christian organizations have performed, I wish I could reach into
my computer moniter, grab him by the neck, slap him a few times, and yell
"Would they be so fucking charitable if they weren't trying to spread
their religion?" In "derng's" case, however, that would probably be child
abuse.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
02 Dec 2003 06:53:07 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:39:15 +1000, "Clayton Driving His Temple Into The Money Changers" wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law,
a real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful
story of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that time,
the whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who
were half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They
would put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic
servants, and to teach them Christianity.
I should also add that it's a true story and one of the now grown girls
acted as a consultant. It won several Australian Film Institute awards
(usually refered to as the Australian Oscars), including Best Picture.
Yes, I forgot to include that it was true in the description. At the very
end, they show the real Molly, now an elderly woman. The "Special
Features" part of the DVD is worth watching, too, where they show what
they had to go through to find three Aborigine girls with no acting
experience to play the girls.
Another bit of trivia: the man who plays the tracker, Moodoo, is David
Gulpilil, who played the Aborigine boy in that other outstanding
Australian film, "Walkabout."
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "\Clayton Driving His Temple Into The Money Changers" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
02 Dec 2003 07:59:46 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.02.12.52.15.543149@stopspam.net...
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:39:15 +1000, "Clayton Driving His Temple Into The
Money Changers" wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.12.47.26.354056@stopspam.net...
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my
bro-in-law,
a real movie fanatic, recommended it to me. It tells a very powerful
story of three young Aborigine girls in 1930's Australia. At that
time,
the whites considered it their moral obligation to seize children who
were half Aborigine, half white, and being raised as Aborigines. They
would put them in a training facility to teach them to be domestic
servants, and to teach them Christianity.
I should also add that it's a true story and one of the now grown girls
acted as a consultant. It won several Australian Film Institute awards
(usually refered to as the Australian Oscars), including Best Picture.
Yes, I forgot to include that it was true in the description. At the very
end, they show the real Molly, now an elderly woman. The "Special
Features" part of the DVD is worth watching, too, where they show what
they had to go through to find three Aborigine girls with no acting
experience to play the girls.
Another bit of trivia: the man who plays the tracker, Moodoo, is David
Gulpilil, who played the Aborigine boy in that other outstanding
Australian film, "Walkabout."
In the same year he won the AFI award for Best Actor for his role in Rolf De
Herr's "The Tracker". There's another movie you should get.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Rabbit Proof Fence |
02 Dec 2003 11:34:58 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:47:26 +0000, MarkA wrote:
I just watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence", which is currently
available in video stores. I had never heard of it until my bro-in-law, a
<snip>
The other aspect of the movie, that I forgot to mention, is when it showed
the girls' mother and grandmother, waiting for their return, after hearing
news of their escape from the training camp. They were chanting, tapping
sticks together, doing a variety of "charms" to try to influence a
situation that was of great importance to them, but inherently beyond
their control. There was a lot of the history of humankind portrayed in
one short scene.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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