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27 Aug 2005 01:53:30 PM |
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RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
From http://www.whatwemaybe.org/
The popular impression is that the eugenics movement was a racist,
anti-Semitic Nazi ideology inspired by Anglo-American elites. In point
of fact, eugenics also managed to establish strong bridgeheads in
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, China,
Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary,
India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Norway, New Zealand, the Netherlands,
Poland, Portugal, Rumania, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden,
Switzerland, and Turkey.
Jews played a modest but active role in the early eugenics movement. In
1916, Rabbi Max Reichler published an article entitled "Jewish
Eugenics," in which he attempted to demonstrate that Jewish religious
customs were eugenic in thrust. A decade and a half later Ellsworth
Huntington, in his book Tomorrow's Children, which was published in
conjunction with the directors of the American Eugenics Society, echoed
Reichler's arguments, praising the Jews as being of uniquely superior
stock and explaining their achievements by a systematic adherence to
the basic principles of Jewish religious law, which he also viewed as
being fundamentally eugenic in nature.
In the Weimar Republic many Jewish socialists actively campaigned for
eugenics, using the Socialist newspaper Vorw=E4rts as their chief
tribune. Max Levien, head of the first Munich Soviet, and Julius Moses,
a member of the German Socialist Party, believed strongly in eugenics.
A partial list of prominent German-Jewish eugenicists would include the
geneticists Richard Goldschmidt, Heinrich Poll, and Curt Stern, the
statistician Wilhelm Weinberg (coauthor of the Hardy-Weinberg Law), the
mathematician Felix Bernstein, and the physicians Alfred Blaschko,
Benno Chajes, Magnus Hirschfeld, Georg L=F6wenstein, Max Marcuse, Max
Hirsch, and Albert Moll. The German League for Improvement of the
People and the Study of Heredity was even attacked by the Nazi
publisher Julius F. Lehmann as targeted subversion on the part of
Berlin Jews. L=F6wenstein was a member of an underground resisting the
National Socialist government, and Chajes, Goldschmidt, Hirschfeld, and
Poll emigrated.
In America, when the revolutionary anarchist editor of the American
Journal of Eugenics, Moses Harman, died in 1910, Emma Goldman's
magazine Mother Earth took over distribution. In 1933, the eugenicist
and University of California professor of zoology Samuel Jackson Holmes
noted the significant number of Jews in the eugenics movement and
praised their "native endowment of brains," while at the same time
lamenting the racial bias suffered by the Jews, which caused many of
their intellectuals to be wary of nonegalitarian worldviews. The
American Eugenics Society itself counted Rabbi Louis Mann as one of its
directors, in 1935.
One of the most prominent eugenicists was the American Herman Muller,
whose mother was Jewish and who received the Nobel Prize in medicine,
in 1946, for his work on genetic mutation rates. A communist, Muller
spent 1933-1937 as a senior geneticist at the University of Moscow,
when he wrote a letter to Stalin proposing that the Soviet Union adopt
eugenics as an official policy. It was the eve of the Great Purges, and
Stalin definitely disapproved of the idea, at which point Muller judged
it wisest to leave for Scotland and then returned to the United States.
It was in the middle of his Moscow sojourn that Muller's eugenics
treatise Out of the Night appeared in the United States. In 1932,
Muller had spent a year in Germany and he was outraged by Nazi concepts
and policies concerning race.
According to the National Library in Jerusalem, from the 1920s through
the 1950s, some 200 Hebrew-language Parents' manuals were published.
These publications contained a coherent worldview, of which eugenics
formed an integral part, subjecting Jewish mothers to an unremitting
program of education, indoctrination and regulation. During the British
mandate, Jewish physicians in Palestine actively promoted eugenics. Dr.
Joseph Meir, for whom the hospital in Kfar Sava is named, wrote in
1934:
Who should be allowed to raise children? Seeking the right answer to
this question, eugenics is the science that tries to refine the human
race and keep it from decaying. This science is still young, but it has
enormous advantages.... Is it not our duty to insure that our children
will be healthy, both physically and mentally? For us, eugenics in
general, and mainly the careful prevention of hereditary illnesses, has
a much higher value than in other nations. Doctors, athletes, and
politicians should spread the idea widely: Do not have children unless
you are sure that they will be healthy, both mentally and physically.
One researcher at Ben-Gurion University working on the topic
"eugenicist Zionists," came across a card file with notes written
by the editors of a collection of Meir's writings, published in
Israel in the mid-1950s where the editors call the article
"problematic and dangerous" and comment that "Now, after Nazi
eugenics, it is dangerous to publish this article." In point of fact,
knowledge of Jewish support for eugenics in pre-1948 Palestine was
suppressed for many years.
Dr. Max Nordau, the son of an Orthodox rabbi, was converted to Zionism
by Theodore Herzl and became prominent in the movement. Nordau's
ideas, which including vigorously propagandizing eugenics, became so
popular in the Jewish community that Nordau Clubs were created even in
the United States.
Dr. Arthur Ruppin, the head of the World Zionist Organization office in
Palestine, wrote in his book The Sociology of the Jews that "in order
to preserve the purity of our race, such Jews [showing signs of genetic
defects] must refrain from having children."
In Israel today many eugenic practices have become widely accepted.
According to Meira Weiss of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem,
In Israel, the Zionists' eugenics turned into a selective prenatal
policy backed by state-of-the-art genetic techtechnology.
There are now more fertility clinics per capita there than in any other
country in the world (four times the number per capita in the United
States). Abortion is subsidized if the fetus is suspected to be
physically or mentally malformed.
In cases where the husband's sperm is not viable, donors fill out
extensive health histories. The State supplies the sperm, which is
screened for Tay-Sachs. Women over thirty-five routinely consent to
amniocentesis tests and abort if genetic defects are discovered. Thus,
the government is actively pursuing eugenics, although the chief
motivation appears to be as least as much quantitative as qualitative.
Surrogacy was legalized in 1996 , but only for married women. It too is
paid for by the State. Jewish religious law does not delegitimize the
children of unmarried women, thus making it possible to combine Jewish
legal principles with modern legal practices. In vitro fertilization
and embryo transfer are preferred by some rabbis as a form of fertility
treatment that does not violate the literal Halakhic precepts against
adultery .
Curiously, some rabbis refuse to condemn the use of non-Jewish sperm,
since masturbation by non-Jews is not of explicit rabbinic concern, and
also because Jewishness is passed exclusively through the mother.
Children born to different Jewish mothers using the same sperm donor
may even marry, since "they share no substance." Other rabbis,
however, consider the use of non-Jewish sperm an abomination.
The Israeli attitude toward cloning differs considerably from that
prevalent in most other countries. Although human reproductive cloning
is currently not permitted because the technology is not yet considered
safe, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel sees no inherent religious
interdiction in reproductive cloning as a form of treatment for
infertility and even sees an advantage over sperm donation, which by
using anonymous donors might subsequently lead to a marriage between
brother and sister.
In 1998, although more than eight decades had passed since the
appearance of Reichler's 1916 essay, Noam J. Zohar, a professor of
philosophy at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, responded to Reichler.
Noting that Reichler's emphatically pro-eugenics views were
"shared... by more than a few Judaic circles today," Zohar wrote
that
A program of individualized eugenics... would seem to be consonant with
an attitude that was, at the very least, tacitly endorsed by
traditional Judaic teachings. Should it make a difference if the means
for producing fine offspring are no longer determined by moralized
speculation but instead by evidence-based genetic science?
It seems to me that, insofar as the goal itself is acceptable, the
change in the means for its advancement need pose no obstacle to its
pursuit. This is so of course provided that the new means are not
morally objectionable. To work out a Judaic response to the sort of new
eugenics now looming on our horizon it will be necessary to evaluate
the various specific means that might serve a modern individualized
eugenics. I hope that some of the groundwork for that has been laid in
this examination of traditional Judaic voices.
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| User: "Hello" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
27 Aug 2005 02:11:54 PM |
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Additional information can be found at http://www.neoeugenics.com/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
27 Aug 2005 08:04:36 PM |
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In episode <1125168810.416368.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Hello
burst into the room and exclaimed:
Hello
Good bye.
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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 02:34:55 PM |
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Only White people are racist.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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28 Aug 2005 04:14:25 PM |
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wrote:
Only White people are racist.
Sorry, but no.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 05:03:03 PM |
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Look at the numbers: White people have caused more deaths than any
other people.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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28 Aug 2005 05:34:47 PM |
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wrote:
Look at the numbers: White people have caused more deaths than any
other people.
Look at the numbers, people have caused more deaths then most anything else.
Regardless of the colour of the skin.
Take your white guilt trip, and find someone that gives a *****.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
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A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 05:05:26 PM |
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wrote:
Look at the numbers: White people have caused more deaths than any
other people.
What numbers? You haven't provided any.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 03:14:20 PM |
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All non-Whites are the victims of White racism. Plus, the worst
tragedy in the history of mankind, and perhaps the history of the
universe, The Hollocaust, was done by White people.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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28 Aug 2005 04:17:36 PM |
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wrote:
All non-Whites are the victims of White racism. Plus, the worst
tragedy in the history of mankind, and perhaps the history of the
universe, The Hollocaust, was done by White people.
....against "White people." Perhaps you could learn history before
posting drivel like this.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 04:31:24 PM |
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wrote:
All non-Whites are the victims of White racism. Plus, the worst
tragedy in the history of mankind, and perhaps the history of the
universe, The Hollocaust, was done by White people.
Wow, nice attempt at pushing white guilt there.
Sorry, does not work, at least, not on my family. Nothing to feel
guilty about. None of us were alive in the 40's, none of my family has
ever owned a slave, and none of my current family have ever shot an Indian.
Of course the abuses suffered by my ancestors in this country, for being
Irish, are legendary.
Oh, wait, they were white, so they could not possibly have been
victimized, right?
Take your white guilt *****, and stuff it. Every culture on the face
of the earth, has been abused at one time or another, by some other
culture. Regardless of what colour their skin was.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 04:10:27 PM |
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No comments by anyone? Speak up and tell that fucker that Jewish
people can't be racist cause they are the victims.
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| User: "Apostate" |
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28 Aug 2005 06:24:26 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2005 14:10:27 -0700, wrote:
No comments by anyone? Speak up and tell that fucker that Jewish
people can't be racist cause they are the victims.
I have a better idea.
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| User: "Bruno" |
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| Title: Re: RACIST Jewish Bastards! |
28 Aug 2005 06:16:43 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2005 12:34:55 -0700, wrote:
Only White people are racist.
You must be white, then, because that statement is blatantly racist.
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