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"Mike Painter" |
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06 Jan 2006 12:17:11 PM |
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Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
From his column today.
And I must note here that when the first news came out on the NBC-TV Today
Show about the disaster, the governor of West Virginia began his comments
with "Here in West Virginia, we believe in miracles, and we're praying for
the miners." When the first report was made that all 13 had survived, people
were quick to attribute it to God. One miner's young wife, 27, clutching her
baby girl, said, "It just shows you enough prayers went out. It's a
miracle." And, President Bush said, "We send our prayers." On that same
program, there was an item about a woman who'd won a huge lottery prize. The
first words out of her mouth were, "God has answered my prayers!" Forgive me
for not grasping the situation here: are we to believe that God ignored all
the prayers for the trapped miners because He was busy arranging for that
woman's lottery number to be chosen? And to the young mother: do you suppose
there weren't quite enough prayers, or your husband would still be alive,
and is that the miracle you cite? God allowed the miners to die because the
pleas for mercy directed at Him weren't properly phrased, while the lottery
winner's prayers were better formulated? Just what are this deity's
priorities?
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Take a CPR class and get your community involved in an AED program.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
06 Jan 2006 01:18:39 PM |
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on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:41:15 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Medicine - and luck will be the deciding factor, but if he lives they
people will cry miracle and thank their god.
This is the same god that could have averted the disaster.
This is the same god that will allow more money to be spent on his
recovery than the man could ever hope to make in a lifetime digging
coal.
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
But we told God that we, mankind,
wanted to run things, so here we are doing a lousy job.
Christian copout alert! It appears, especially in this case, that the god
is either a bystander who watches and does nothing, or that there is no
god. It is asserted that when something good happens, like someone
escaping a building fire with their life intact, it is a miracle. God
helped him. But if the guy had made one wrong turn on his way out, well,
god works in mysterious ways.
The most obvious thing is that which you christers refuse to imagine.
That god doesn't really exist.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Official alt.wisdom HELLBOY
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
06 Jan 2006 03:33:30 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9743736A4E10Bvicman@127.0.0.1...
on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:41:15 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Medicine - and luck will be the deciding factor, but if he lives they
people will cry miracle and thank their god.
This is the same god that could have averted the disaster.
This is the same god that will allow more money to be spent on his
recovery than the man could ever hope to make in a lifetime digging
coal.
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
Duke can't because he can't pull his head out of his *****!
But we told God that we, mankind,
wanted to run things, so here we are doing a lousy job.
Christian copout alert! It appears, especially in this case, that the god
is either a bystander who watches and does nothing, or that there is no
god. It is asserted that when something good happens, like someone
escaping a building fire with their life intact, it is a miracle. God
helped him. But if the guy had made one wrong turn on his way out, well,
god works in mysterious ways.
The most obvious thing is that which you christers refuse to imagine.
That god doesn't really exist.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Official alt.wisdom HELLBOY
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
06 Jan 2006 06:53:29 PM |
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Bill wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9743736A4E10Bvicman@127.0.0.1...
on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:41:15 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Medicine - and luck will be the deciding factor, but if he lives they
people will cry miracle and thank their god.
This is the same god that could have averted the disaster.
This is the same god that will allow more money to be spent on his
recovery than the man could ever hope to make in a lifetime digging
coal.
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
Duke can't because he can't pull his head out of his *****!
The word is that he was arrested at his local supermarket just before
Xmas because he bought olive oil and had a tantrum when they wouldn't
give him the "extra virgin" that the label promised....
Budikka
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
07 Jan 2006 12:04:09 AM |
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Bill wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9743736A4E10Bvicman@127.0.0.1...
on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:41:15 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Medicine - and luck will be the deciding factor, but if he lives they
people will cry miracle and thank their god.
This is the same god that could have averted the disaster.
This is the same god that will allow more money to be spent on his
recovery than the man could ever hope to make in a lifetime digging
coal.
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
Duke can't because he can't pull his head out of his *****!
he won't find a god in there !!!!!
But we told God that we, mankind,
wanted to run things, so here we are doing a lousy job.
Christian copout alert! It appears, especially in this case, that the god
is either a bystander who watches and does nothing, or that there is no
god. It is asserted that when something good happens, like someone
escaping a building fire with their life intact, it is a miracle. God
helped him. But if the guy had made one wrong turn on his way out, well,
god works in mysterious ways.
The most obvious thing is that which you christers refuse to imagine.
That god doesn't really exist.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Official alt.wisdom HELLBOY
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
07 Jan 2006 12:40:03 AM |
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On 7 Jan 2006 00:04:09 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
Bill wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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Duke can't because he can't pull his head out of his *****!
he won't find a god in there !!!!!
:
It's as good a place as any...
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
08 Jan 2006 11:07:59 AM |
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 00:52:03 -0600, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <kgour1h03pt9ro4a4d6ga4em861edhvkbe@4ax.com>):
On 7 Jan 2006 00:04:09 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
Bill wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
Duke can't because he can't pull his head out of his *****!
he won't find a god in there !!!!!
It's as good a place as any...
Well, 'God' is supposed to be omnipresent, so he should be in there.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"But it could also be a new troll being born. (Do they form by accretion?)"
-Chuck Taylor
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
06 Jan 2006 06:35:49 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
But we told God that we, mankind,
wanted to run things, so here we are doing a lousy job.
Christian copout alert! It appears, especially in this case, that the god
is either a bystander who watches and does nothing, or that there is no
god. It is asserted that when something good happens, like someone
escaping a building fire with their life intact, it is a miracle. God
helped him. But if the guy had made one wrong turn on his way out, well,
god works in mysterious ways.
The most obvious thing is that which you christers refuse to imagine.
That god doesn't really exist.
The only thing Duck ***** has consistently demonstrated is what a
monumental (with the emphais on mental) imbecile he is.
He claims he can run rings round people on scripture (but when you take
him up on his claim, the only running he does is *away*!), yet he
obviously isn't familiar with the part of the Bible which clearly
states that **WHATEVER** is asked for in Jesus's name will be given.
The loved ones and friends of those miners undeniably asked in Jesus's
name for the trapped miners to be freed alive and safely and returned
to their loved one's.
This is proof positive that there is no god - or there is a god, but
the Bible lies about him! LoL!
Budikka
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
07 Jan 2006 12:04:02 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
on 06 Jan 2006 in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:41:15 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Medicine - and luck will be the deciding factor, but if he lives they
people will cry miracle and thank their god.
This is the same god that could have averted the disaster.
This is the same god that will allow more money to be spent on his
recovery than the man could ever hope to make in a lifetime digging
coal.
Now mikey, you know good and well from my many lectures to you that
God does not routinely interfere in our lives.
There are clearly
some cases that he has of course.
Cites please.
But we told God that we, mankind,
wanted to run things, so here we are doing a lousy job.
Christian copout alert! It appears, especially in this case, that the god
is either a bystander who watches and does nothing, or that there is no
god. It is asserted that when something good happens, like someone
escaping a building fire with their life intact, it is a miracle. God
helped him. But if the guy had made one wrong turn on his way out, well,
god works in mysterious ways.
The most obvious thing is that which you christers refuse to imagine.
That god doesn't really exist.
....that was a conclusion I came to a looooong time ago
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Official alt.wisdom HELLBOY
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
06 Jan 2006 12:40:32 PM |
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It is because all religions, prayers and ceremonies are based purely on
myths and legends!
Praying to mythical gods is no more effective than rubbing a rabbits foot!
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Huyvf.50299$7h7.36234@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
From his column today.
And I must note here that when the first news came out on the NBC-TV Today
Show about the disaster, the governor of West Virginia began his comments
with "Here in West Virginia, we believe in miracles, and we're praying for
the miners." When the first report was made that all 13 had survived,
people were quick to attribute it to God. One miner's young wife, 27,
clutching her baby girl, said, "It just shows you enough prayers went out.
It's a miracle." And, President Bush said, "We send our prayers." On that
same program, there was an item about a woman who'd won a huge lottery
prize. The first words out of her mouth were, "God has answered my
prayers!" Forgive me for not grasping the situation here: are we to
believe that God ignored all the prayers for the trapped miners because He
was busy arranging for that woman's lottery number to be chosen? And to
the young mother: do you suppose there weren't quite enough prayers, or
your husband would still be alive, and is that the miracle you cite? God
allowed the miners to die because the pleas for mercy directed at Him
weren't properly phrased, while the lottery winner's prayers were better
formulated? Just what are this deity's priorities?
--
Take a CPR class and get your community involved in an AED program.
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| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Randi explains "Fundie coal miner miracle" |
07 Jan 2006 12:09:35 AM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> had me ROTFL with:
news:6Oyvf.116541$aS5.3260@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
It is because all religions, prayers and ceremonies are based purely on
myths and legends!
Praying to mythical gods is no more effective than rubbing a rabbits
foot!
I've watched rabbits rub their own feet, doesn't seem to do em any good!!
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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