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15 Mar 2007 11:51:19 PM |
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Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
(Credit not given as I got this in email)
Rape In The Bible
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know
that rape is not condemned in the Bible. The Bible in fact condones or even
approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that
allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and
carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes
that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in
many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be
fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote
clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to
kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to
do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not
a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred
young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the
camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of
Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin
returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who
were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women
for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had
left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How
can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe
of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an
entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them
our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that
anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh,
between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from
Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives,
"Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their
dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them
home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in
protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your
daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed
Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not
give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as
they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration
and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they
rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed
by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed
and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside
the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything
but evil.
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they
killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings - Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur,
and Reba - died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the
sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children
and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They
burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After
they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they
brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community
of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, a
cross from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to
meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military
commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the
women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's
advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount
Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people.
Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the
young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for
peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the
people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make
peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your
God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for
yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may
enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must
marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed
to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer:
God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has
relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city
and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help
though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors
wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is
only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's
"Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house.
I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them
to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have
done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all
Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan
answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not
die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child
born to you must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.)
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself
brings the completely innocent rapes victims to the rapist. What kind of
pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This
is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT)
Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands
them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the
captives a beautiful young virgin woman, and you are attracted to her and
want to marry
her. If this happens, you may take her to your home [against her will],
where she must shave
her head, cut her fingernails, and change all her clothes [also against her
will]. Then she must
remain in your home for a full month [kidnapping approved by Jehovah],
mourning for her father and mother.
After that you may marry her [by force]. But if you marry her and then
decide you do
not like her, you must let her go free [no longer a virgin and now unable to
marry again]. You may not sell her or treat her
as a slave, for you have humiliated her. [This humiliation was approved by
Jehovah].
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
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| User: "Pastor Richard Foot" |
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
16 Mar 2007 01:15:26 AM |
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DärFläken <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:33:19 PM |
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
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DärFläken <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
And what makes this god think a woman would want to marry some slimeball,
some violent psychocase who raped her? Her life would be totally destroyed.
Odd how god had women who committed adultery stoned to death but a man who
raped a woman got to marry her and live, even if she despised him. This
goes beyond the double standard.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver,
Notice there is no mention of how the woman felt about all this. He paid
her father? That's like telling a horny man to go rape a virgin as all
it'll cost him is 50 shekels of silver. There was nothing to stop the
violent pervert from leaving her after the wedding and raping another
virgin.
and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her
away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
Like there was any way to find him after he took off ......... What a cruel
god to have the victim of rape forced to marry a sexual psychopath.
You can't get any fairer than that.
Have you ever been raped?
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Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "" |
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16 Mar 2007 01:37:38 PM |
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You can't get any fairer than that.
What about if she doesn't want to marry him? It seems really
unfair, if it was a rape, that a young girl can be forced to marry
someone she really truly didn't want. In this case, it seems to be
encouraging rape against the young girl. Once the rapist gets to pay
the daddy the bride price, he gets to do it to the girl again and
again as many times as he wants to. However, then it is no longer
legally a rape. It becomes marriage. Is this what you cal fair?
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 05:23:41 PM |
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<drosen0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You can't get any fairer than that.
What about if she doesn't want to marry him? It seems really
unfair, if it was a rape, that a young girl can be forced to marry
someone she really truly didn't want. In this case, it seems to be
encouraging rape against the young girl. Once the rapist gets to pay
the daddy the bride price, he gets to do it to the girl again and
again as many times as he wants to. However, then it is no longer
legally a rape. It becomes marriage. Is this what you cal fair?
The men of the times must have loved it. Say a man, ugly, lazy and
undesirable in every way sees a beautiful young maiden who would have
nothing to do with such a loser... he wants her for a wife. She gags at the
sight of the man... so he simply waits to waylay her and rapes her! VIOLA!
He now has her to rape and sexually abuse with god's blessing for the rest
of their lives... or until she runs away or commits suicide.
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| User: "Wombat" |
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16 Mar 2007 01:42:40 AM |
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On 16 Mar, 07:15, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote innews:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.al=
basani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her aw=
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all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
The idea that a woman should have to live with the man that raped her
is sick.
Wombat
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian=AE Baptist Churcheshttp://www.church.b=
roomleigh.de/
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16 Mar 2007 01:48:37 AM |
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "Mike Henry" |
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16 Mar 2007 08:33:38 AM |
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98F545254F1FBYouremailydorapcom@204.153.245.17...
"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
I call troll. Who are you, really.
--
Geo. Michael Henry
"And one of the hot topics for me is the number of Christian atheists who
are fully committed to living
according to the teachings of Jesus, but unwilling to accept the idea of
God."
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| User: "Mike Henry" |
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16 Mar 2007 08:33:38 AM |
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98F545254F1FBYouremailydorapcom@204.153.245.17...
"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
I call troll. Who are you, really.
--
Geo. Michael Henry
"And one of the hot topics for me is the number of Christian atheists who
are fully committed to living
according to the teachings of Jesus, but unwilling to accept the idea of
God."
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:42:35 PM |
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"Mike Henry" <gmikeh@nckcn.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
I call troll. Who are you, really.
He may see nothing wrong with the rape of a woman. Some religious fanatics
still believe their gods gave them women to use and abuse as they see fit.
They see women as a step above a goat or donkey.
--
Geo. Michael Henry
"And one of the hot topics for me is the number of Christian atheists who
are fully committed to living
according to the teachings of Jesus, but unwilling to accept the idea of
God."
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| User: "Mike Henry" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:59:15 PM |
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"DärFläken" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Mike Henry" <gmikeh@nckcn.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
I call troll. Who are you, really.
He may see nothing wrong with the rape of a woman. Some religious
fanatics still believe their gods gave them women to use and abuse as they
see fit. They see women as a step above a goat or donkey.
Hint: Ydorap spelled backwards is parodY
--
Geo. Michael Henry
"And one of the hot topics for me is the number of Christian atheists who
are fully committed to living
according to the teachings of Jesus, but unwilling to accept the idea of
God."
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| User: "Kula" |
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16 Mar 2007 10:58:15 PM |
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"DärFläken" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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They see women as a step above a goat or donkey.
To say the least.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:38:33 PM |
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in
news:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
The dear Lord Jesus believed in punishing the victim along with the criminal
who perpetuated the crime? Punish her for life by forcing her to marry a
violent sexual sociopath who should have been imprisoned or executed?
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "Wombat" |
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16 Mar 2007 06:38:23 AM |
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On 16 Mar, 07:48, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
"Wombat" <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote innews:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2=
000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
The Bible also says I should not eat shellfish (can't stand shellfish
anyway) or wear cloths composed of two types of cloth. I like bacon
butties. I stand by my statement. It is not up to you to decide a
person's religious beliefs by reference to the Jewish law and beliefs.
Wombat
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian=AE Baptist Churcheshttp://www.church.b=
roomleigh.de/
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:39:55 PM |
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in message
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On 16 Mar, 07:48, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
"Wombat" <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote
innews:1174027360.033969.112190@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
The idea that a woman should have to live with
the man that raped her is sick.
You don't believe in The Bible and love the dear Lord Jesus then?
The Bible also says I should not eat shellfish (can't stand shellfish
anyway) or wear cloths composed of two types of cloth. I like bacon
butties. I stand by my statement. It is not up to you to decide a
person's religious beliefs by reference to the Jewish law and beliefs.
Jesus would be a pretty sorry savior if he believed in forcing a rape victim
to marry a vile sexual predator and sociopath.
Wombat
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist
Churcheshttp://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:36:56 PM |
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"Wombat" <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in message
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On 16 Mar, 07:15, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote
innews:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her
away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
The idea that a woman should have to live with the man that raped her
is sick.
I saw a program on TV that these marriages were nightmares. Innocent young
girls forced to marry old men they despised. And you know these men were
not going to treat these women they had no respect for decently. Some of
these women committed suicide rather than spend their lives with these
violent psychopaths. Where the hell was the all loving god to prevent such
forced marriages that punished the victim along with the criminal? It seems
this god was more interested in what consenting gays were doing than the
victims of one of the most violent crimes against women - rape!
Wombat
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist
Churcheshttp://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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16 Mar 2007 06:04:10 AM |
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Wombat <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in alt.atheism
Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote innews:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
The idea that a woman should have to live with the man that raped her
is sick.
A close second is the fundie belief that a woman who was raped
shouldn't be allowed to take the day after pill to prevent possible
pregnancy.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Roe" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:44:05 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Wombat <trigby@multiweb.nl> wrote in alt.atheism
Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote
innews:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver,
and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her
away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
The idea that a woman should have to live with the man that raped her
is sick.
A close second is the fundie belief that a woman who was raped
shouldn't be allowed to take the day after pill to prevent possible
pregnancy.
That's because they want to PUNISH her as some still believe the woman
"looked for it" or "deserved to be raped."
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
17 Mar 2007 01:38:50 AM |
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
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A close second is the fundie belief that a woman
who was raped shouldn't be allowed to take the
day after pill to prevent possible pregnancy.
I agree. This is God's plan:
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.
Praise the sweet name of Jesus.
Hosea 13:16
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Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "Kathy" |
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
17 Mar 2007 10:36:26 AM |
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"Pastor Richard Foot" <Your@email.ydorap.com> wrote in message
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
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A close second is the fundie belief that a woman
who was raped shouldn't be allowed to take the
day after pill to prevent possible pregnancy.
I agree. This is God's plan:
It's god's plan that women be raped, then forced to bear the unwanted child
of a violent mentally defective man? A child carry a child with half the
defective's genes to carry on the perversions and mental illnesses of the
father? No wonder there are so many atheists and agnostics today.
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
Which has nothing to do with a woman being raped.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.
Wow... what a LOVING god!!! No wonder Christians are so violent.
Praise the sweet name of Jesus.
Hosea 13:16
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Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "stumper" |
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
16 Mar 2007 08:10:07 AM |
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Pastor Richard Foot wrote:
DärFläken <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and
she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away
all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
What if the rape victim prefers
to kill him and take all his possessions?
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~Stumper
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| User: "=?utf-8?B?RMOkckZsw6RrZW4=?=" |
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
16 Mar 2007 12:46:00 PM |
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"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Richard Foot wrote:
DärFläken <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that
lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver,
and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put
her away all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
What if the rape victim prefers
to kill him and take all his possessions?
That would be the most fair way of handling it. Her male relatives should
be given the opportunity to execute the criminal this god wants to force
into marriage - and hence the destruction of the victim's life.
--
~Stumper
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
16 Mar 2007 02:42:24 PM |
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On Mar 16, 1:46 pm, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"stumper" <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Richard Foot wrote:
D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that
lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silv=
er,
and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put
her away all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
What if the rape victim prefers
to kill him and take all his possessions?
That would be the most fair way of handling it. Her male relatives should
be given the opportunity to execute the criminal this god wants to force
into marriage - and hence the destruction of the victim's life.
--
~Stumper
Actually, that does happen in the Bible. Dinah the daughter of
Jacob is raped by a chiefton, and agrees to pay a brideprice that
includes the entire tribe converting to the religion of the Hebrews.
Things really bad happen when the sons, contrary to their father,
decide this isn't right. They end up massacring the chiefton's entire
tribe during the mass circumcision. Jacob ends up asking God for
forgiveness of his sons. I am not clear what happened to the women of
the tribe of the rapist. I suppose they were either killed or taken by
the sons.
The law was probably not an indictment against rape as a crime
against the woman. It is considered strictly a type of larceny. The
rapist has damaged an economic asset of the father and has not done
anything else bad. he pays for the inconvenience.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?=" |
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16 Mar 2007 05:14:26 PM |
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<drosen0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 1:46 pm, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"stumper" <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote in message
news:B9ydnYx_e8G1CmfYnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@ptd.net...
Pastor Richard Foot wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that
lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of
silver,
and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put
her away all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
What if the rape victim prefers
to kill him and take all his possessions?
That would be the most fair way of handling it. Her male relatives should
be given the opportunity to execute the criminal this god wants to force
into marriage - and hence the destruction of the victim's life.
--
~Stumper
Actually, that does happen in the Bible. Dinah the daughter of
Jacob is raped by a chiefton, and agrees to pay a brideprice that
includes the entire tribe converting to the religion of the Hebrews.
Things really bad happen when the sons, contrary to their father,
decide this isn't right. They end up massacring the chiefton's entire
tribe during the mass circumcision. Jacob ends up asking God for
forgiveness of his sons. I am not clear what happened to the women of
the tribe of the rapist. I suppose they were either killed or taken by
the sons.
The law was probably not an indictment against rape as a crime
against the woman. It is considered strictly a type of larceny. The
rapist has damaged an economic asset of the father and has not done
anything else bad. he pays for the inconvenience.
And their god isn't behind this view of woman as "possessions," and not
fellow human beings? Where was this Hebrew god to stand up for the rights
of women?
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| User: "stumper" |
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16 Mar 2007 03:25:42 PM |
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wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"stumper" <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote in message
Pastor Richard Foot wrote:
DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:etd7o9$t0j$1@news.albasani.net:
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
The Bible prescribes that any man who rapes a virgin must marry her.
"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that
lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver,
and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put
her away all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).
You can't get any fairer than that.
What if the rape victim prefers
to kill him and take all his possessions?
That would be the most fair way of handling it. Her male relatives should
be given the opportunity to execute the criminal this god wants to force
into marriage - and hence the destruction of the victim's life.
Actually, that does happen in the Bible. Dinah the daughter of
Jacob is raped by a chiefton, and agrees to pay a brideprice that
includes the entire tribe converting to the religion of the Hebrews.
Things really bad happen when the sons, contrary to their father,
decide this isn't right. They end up massacring the chiefton's entire
tribe during the mass circumcision. Jacob ends up asking God for
forgiveness of his sons. I am not clear what happened to the women of
the tribe of the rapist. I suppose they were either killed or taken by
the sons.
The law was probably not an indictment against rape as a crime
against the woman. It is considered strictly a type of larceny. The
rapist has damaged an economic asset of the father and has not done
anything else bad. he pays for the inconvenience.
Do you agree with the law?
--
~Stumper
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| Title: Re: Rape in the Bible - Approved by Jehovah. |
16 Mar 2007 04:03:32 PM |
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stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in
news:Z9adnZP4DsuiYGfYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@ptd.net:
Do you agree with the law?
We don't think; we pray.
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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16 Mar 2007 04:34:36 PM |
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On Mar 16, 2:03 pm, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote innews:Z9adnZP4DsuiYGfYnZ2dnUVZ_sCi=
nZ2d@ptd.net:
Do you agree with the law?
We don't think; we pray.
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian=AE Baptist
Churcheshttp://www.church.broomleigh.de/
Unbe-fucking-lievable. Seconds?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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16 Mar 2007 04:38:15 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> said:
Broomleigh Group
This is a parody.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Mar 2007 04:41:54 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:38:15 -0700, Jim07D7 wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> said:
Broomleigh Group
This is a parody.
Worse. It's a deliberate slander by a mentally ill individual in the UK
who believes--I am *not making this up--people are trying to kill him by
denying him medical help for a fatal disorder he has.
(Curiously enough, his claim he's going to die Right! Now! if they don't
give him "access to help" is now many years old and he's still alive)
Also, he plagiarizes Landover and other parody sites. He isn't doing any
original work...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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17 Mar 2007 01:44:48 AM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in
news:1174080876.654886.128210@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
We don't think; we pray.
Unbe-fucking-lievable. Seconds?
Unlike fake Christians, we believe in abortion, as The Holy says:
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.
Hosea 13:16
Some people don't like God's Holy Bible.
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist Churches
http://www.church.broomleigh.de/
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16 Mar 2007 07:29:06 PM |
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On 16 Mar 2007 14:34:36 -0700, "skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1174080876.654886.128210@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 16, 2:03 pm, Pastor Richard Foot <Y...@email.ydorap.com> wrote:
stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote innews:Z9adnZP4DsuiYGfYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@ptd.net:
Do you agree with the law?
We don't think; we pray.
--
Rev. Dr. Richard ***** Foot, BSc., DD, FFD
Social Worker and Chief Executive Pastor (Ydorap)
Broomleigh Group of True Christian® Baptist
Churcheshttp://www.church.broomleigh.de/
Unbe-fucking-lievable. Seconds?
He is not actually for real.
Can subtle parodies be nominated?
--
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