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"quibbler" |
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19 Apr 2005 11:48:21 AM |
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Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
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"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
20 Apr 2005 01:50:05 AM |
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In article <MPG.1ccee43ceafb74c9989691@aioe.cjb.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Nah. He's Benny16.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Sean C" |
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19 Apr 2005 01:40:32 PM |
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In article <MPG.1ccee43ceafb74c9989691@aioe.cjb.net>, quibbler
<quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Torquemada II has a nice ring to it.
Sean C
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, I meant 265th poop |
19 Apr 2005 11:59:01 AM |
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In article <MPG.1ccee43ceafb74c9989691@aioe.cjb.net>, quibbler247
@yahoo.com says...
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
--
"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "Guardian Pegasus" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
19 Apr 2005 11:50:55 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse is about.
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| User: "Frank J Warner" |
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19 Apr 2005 01:25:55 PM |
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In article <6mda61hnkdpkn7088edvmugb1im7ofop19@4ax.com>, Guardian
Pegasus <popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse is about.
You can't accuse the RCC of not being deliberate. It took them thirty
years to get around to the Beatles.
-Frank
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fwarner1-at-franksknives-dot-com
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/
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| User: "Milan" |
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20 Apr 2005 10:51:28 AM |
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"Frank J Warner" <warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net> wrote in message
news:190420051125550815%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net...
In article <6mda61hnkdpkn7088edvmugb1im7ofop19@4ax.com>, Guardian
Pegasus <popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse >is about.
Dont worry. In 400 years they will apologize.
regards
Milan
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Apr 2005 12:47:35 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:51:28 +0100, "Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Frank J Warner" <warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net> wrote in message
news:190420051125550815%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net...
In article <6mda61hnkdpkn7088edvmugb1im7ofop19@4ax.com>, Guardian
Pegasus <popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse >is about.
Dont worry. In 400 years they will apologize.
And it won't mean a thing.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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19 Apr 2005 08:33:03 PM |
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Frank J Warner <warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net> wrote in
news:190420051125550815%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net:
In article <6mda61hnkdpkn7088edvmugb1im7ofop19@4ax.com>, Guardian
Pegasus <popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse is about.
You can't accuse the RCC of not being deliberate. It took them thirty
years to get around to the Beatles.
Only 400 years to allow that they might have been a little wrong about
Galileo...
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Never use a weapon you don't like the taste of.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
21 Apr 2005 12:47:08 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:50:55 +0200, Guardian Pegasus
<popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse is about.
A criminal organization that handles; slavery, paedophelia,
racketeering, intimidation, fleecing, law breaking, torture,
inhumanity, theft, coercion, blackmail, smear campaigns, eternal
torture, and more has no single word they can say about morality.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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20 Apr 2005 01:50:48 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:50:55 +0200, Guardian Pegasus
<popeundercover@holysee.va> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:48:21 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
Yeppers... in 1996 he criticized the morality of the Beatles... that
should give you some idea of what this old nazi warhorse is about.
Really? Wow. Of all the groups he could have criticized, he chose the
greatest rock band of all time, the foundation of modern popular
music, a supreme conglomeration of musical genius, a band who
consistently promoted peace and love? Harumph. Anyone who criticizes
The Beatles is a twat. I know that's a generalization but it's still
true :-)
Damnit, I sound all religious now.
What did the ***** say about them? He apparently likes
Mozart, so presumably it wasn't the boozing and womanizing he was
objecting to.
Mephisto
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20 Apr 2005 11:03:18 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church? If anything, I welcome the fact that they've elected a
blunt-speaker who appears to put his views right out there in the open.
If you don't like them, ignore them. But don't go around wondering why
they didn't elect a more moderate Pope when you wouldn't have listened
to him either. Let them pick who they want. As for the Nazi reference,
this guy in fairness to him deserted. Let the eccentric old guy get on
with being Pope, you get on with being you.
--
"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Apr 2005 11:34:37 AM |
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<cavello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114012998.202368.326770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Why are you posting this in alt.atheism?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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20 Apr 2005 11:43:43 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:34:37 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<cavello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114012998.202368.326770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Why are you posting this in alt.atheism?
He had his question answered and then turned nasty. Just another
troll.
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20 Apr 2005 12:04:03 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:34:37 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<cavello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114012998.202368.326770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck *****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Why are you posting this in alt.atheism?
He had his question answered
Nope.
and then turned nasty.
Nope.
Just another
troll.
Three outta three. Nope.
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20 Apr 2005 11:42:36 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<cavello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114012998.202368.326770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck *****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Why are you posting this in alt.atheism?
Cos that's where the post I responded to was.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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20 Apr 2005 12:29:08 PM |
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wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Given that John Paul II used his position to ORDER American Catholics how
to vote, and given that he is a foreign head of state capable to condemning
to Hell for all eternity any Catholic who would dare to vote his or her
conscience rather than in accord with "Holy Doctrine," I dare say who runs
the Catholic Church is of major importance to each and every American.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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20 Apr 2005 12:39:52 PM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote
Given that John Paul II used his position to ORDER
American Catholics how to vote,
As someone who was raised in a Catholic family -- and
that family hasn't moved to Mars -- I can assure you that
you're getting more than a bit carried away.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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21 Apr 2005 08:37:06 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote
Given that John Paul II used his position to ORDER
American Catholics how to vote,
As someone who was raised in a Catholic family -- and
that family hasn't moved to Mars -- I can assure you that
you're getting more than a bit carried away.
I am indeed overstating.
It is fact, however, that Vatican theologians issued and caused to be
circulated -- presumably at the order of the old Pope but most certainly
at the command of the new Pope -- a directive that supporters of
abortion, including Presidential candidate John Kerry, were in a state
of mortal sin because of their support for abortion and thus should be
denied communion. The strong implication was that any Democrat who did
not denounce a woman's right to choose was de facto a sinner. Further
was the much trumpeted theological opinion that came from the Vatican --
not refuted until several days latter, and with almost no notice by the
Catholic press -- that Kerry was automatically excommunicated because of
his support for abortion and that an Catholic supporter of Kerry was in
danger of automatic excommunication and eternal hellfire for consorting
with an apostate.
How is any of this NOT a case of a foreign power condemning to Hell for
all eternity any Catholic who would dare to vote his or her conscience
rather than in accord with "Holy Doctrine?"
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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21 Apr 2005 11:47:52 AM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote
How is any of this NOT a case of a foreign power
condemning to Hell for all eternity any Catholic
who would dare to vote his or her conscience
rather than in accord with "Holy Doctrine?"
There was a lunatic right-wing campaign to involve
the Vatican in the U.S. election, and JPII refused.
Yes, there were certain pronouncements made, which
turned out to be INTERPRETATIONS by the U.S.
media & zealots (most not even Catholic), but the
Vatican did make efforts to counter those interpretations.
Your mistake here is in acknowledging the bias of
the press, but not when it conflicts with a preconceived
view of people/groups you don't like.
Come on, like you haven't bemoaned the U.S. press and
it's supposed "Freedom" through all the war coverage,
the rotating list of excuses & the later election coverage?
You knew we didn't suddenly get a new press -- or the
press suddenly became free -- when it came time to
report on Kerry's imaginary religious issues (and only
then).
It was the exact same press -- lacking just as much
freedom -- reporting on Kerry's "Religious Issues"
as was ignoring Bush's lies, or passing along
Whitehouse produced propaganda pieces.
The reporting itself was the point. So long as the press
constantly reminded voters that Kerry is a Catholic,
that's all that mattered.
After all, the religious Reich *Hates* Catholics.
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21 Apr 2005 02:28:00 PM |
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Gregory Gadow wrote:
cavello@yahoo.com wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck *****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Given that John Paul II used his position to ORDER American Catholics
how
to vote,
How? Does he lock them up in chains if they don't cooperate? Even
before you get to that, how does he succeed in 'ordering' them if he
can't actually figure out if they've even obeyed his 'orders' or not?
What you really should have said is that there are Catholics in America
who take what he says seriously. They're perfectly entitled to do so,
and he's perfectly entitled to attempt to order them or anyone else
around. Just as your local postman is entitled to do, of course. You
cannot really have a problem with freedom of speech.
and given that he is a foreign head of state
So?
capable to condemning
to Hell for all eternity
No he's not, dummy. Maybe he claims to be able to, and maybe others
beleive him, but he's no more capable of condemning anyone to Hell than
you are.
any Catholic who would dare to vote his or her
conscience rather than in accord with "Holy Doctrine," I dare say who
runs
the Catholic Church is of major importance to each and every
American.
This hasn't answered my question. Why do you care who runs the Church?
firstly, the message isn't going to change that much anyway, and
second, you're real truck is not with the Pope for trying to influence
American Catholics, but with american Catholics for accepting his
influence. If you don't like that, sorry but you're going to have to
compete with him. You cannot shut him up.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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20 Apr 2005 01:16:24 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:29:08 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
cavello@yahoo.com wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church?
Given that John Paul II used his position to ORDER American Catholics how
to vote, and given that he is a foreign head of state capable to condemning
to Hell for all eternity any Catholic who would dare to vote his or her
conscience rather than in accord with "Holy Doctrine," I dare say who runs
the Catholic Church is of major importance to each and every American.
He also threatened that Kerry and other politicians who didn't toe the
Vatican line would be refused communion.
And in Europe he demanded that the EU Constitution recognise "Europe's
Christian heritage".
The Vatican is a member state of neither the EU nor the USA. Its
actions alienated non-Catholics even further than they already were.
Did they honestly expect eg Protestants to vote for a Catholic
candidate under those circumstances?
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20 Apr 2005 01:28:47 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote
He also threatened that Kerry and other politicians who
didn't toe the Vatican line would be refused communion.
Um, here on our planet (the Earth) that was the Republicans,
not the Vatican.
There was a right-wing campaign to try to involve the
Vatican in internal U.S. politics (now how unAmerican
is that?), but the Pope refused to go along with it.
Another way of putting it: You're taking something good
that the Pope did, and molesting the truth in order to make
it into something bad.
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20 Apr 2005 11:17:45 AM |
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On 20 Apr 2005 09:03:18 -0700, wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck ***** for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church? If anything, I welcome the fact that they've elected a
blunt-speaker who appears to put his views right out there in the open.
If you don't like them, ignore them. But don't go around wondering why
they didn't elect a more moderate Pope when you wouldn't have listened
to him either. Let them pick who they want. As for the Nazi reference,
this guy in fairness to him deserted. Let the eccentric old guy get on
with being Pope, you get on with being you.
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists. Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
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20 Apr 2005 11:44:10 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
[...]
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists. Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Sorry, this is not an attack on your english which is far better then
my own, I am still learning a foreign language here, but is there not
a reference error in the above sentence? It is not the condoms who
spreads AIDS, but the medieval attitude rather.
Is that still okay, because in my native language that construction
would be wrong, so I'd like to know if this is a difference and if
that is okay in English?
--
Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
(Don't let the bastards grind you down)
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20 Apr 2005 11:57:34 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:44:10 +0200, Ichimusai <ichi@ichimusai.org>
wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
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Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists. Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Sorry, this is not an attack on your english which is far better then
my own, I am still learning a foreign language here, but is there not
a reference error in the above sentence? It is not the condoms who
spreads AIDS, but the medieval attitude rather.
No. If the verb had been plural (they spread) it would have referred
to the condoms. The singular verb (it spreads) shows it referring to
the attitude.
Is that still okay, because in my native language that construction
would be wrong, so I'd like to know if this is a difference and if
that is okay in English?
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
20 Apr 2005 11:34:00 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 20 Apr 2005 09:03:18 -0700, wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck *****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church? If anything, I welcome the fact that they've elected a
blunt-speaker who appears to put his views right out there in the
open.
If you don't like them, ignore them. But don't go around wondering
why
they didn't elect a more moderate Pope when you wouldn't have
listened
to him either. Let them pick who they want. As for the Nazi
reference,
this guy in fairness to him deserted. Let the eccentric old guy get
on
with being Pope, you get on with being you.
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists.
For fucks sake, water off a bloody duck's back. Most of the worlds
population disagrees with atheism and you're worried aobut this
*specific* guy? IGNORE him. Get on with your life.
Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Among people dumb enough to listen to this guys teaching on
contraception. Surely that's their business, no? I fail to see where
you come in - unless there are a load of Catholic females in your neck
of the woods who draw the line on the anti-Pope side of fornication but
on the pro-Pope side of contraception. I didn't know such weird girls
existed, but if they do, my heart really does go out to you.
Apart from that, what these people choose to do or not do is their own
damn business. They can listen to this fella if they like.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
20 Apr 2005 11:43:06 AM |
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On 20 Apr 2005 09:34:00 -0700, wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 20 Apr 2005 09:03:18 -0700, wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck *****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church? If anything, I welcome the fact that they've elected a
blunt-speaker who appears to put his views right out there in the
open.
If you don't like them, ignore them. But don't go around wondering
why
they didn't elect a more moderate Pope when you wouldn't have
listened
to him either. Let them pick who they want. As for the Nazi
reference,
this guy in fairness to him deserted. Let the eccentric old guy get
on
with being Pope, you get on with being you.
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists.
For fucks sake, water off a bloody duck's back. Most of the worlds
population disagrees with atheism and you're worried aobut this
*specific* guy? IGNORE him. Get on with your life.
Thank you for demonstrating your own bigotry.
As long as they lie about atheists they will be treated as the bigoted
liars they show themselves to be. Just like the whining
fundamentalists who do the same.
Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Among people dumb enough to listen to this guys teaching on
contraception. Surely that's their business, no? I fail to see where
No. It is the whole world's business.
Or the Vatican's unwarranted interference in both the European and US
democratic processes when it pushed for Europe to "acknowledge its
Christian heritage" and for American politicians who didn't follow the
Vatican line to be refused communion?
you come in - unless there are a load of Catholic females in your neck
of the woods who draw the line on the anti-Pope side of fornication but
on the pro-Pope side of contraception. I didn't know such weird girls
existed, but if they do, my heart really does go out to you.
What "anti-Pope side of fornication" would that be? Don't invent
"sides" when there aren't any. Catholic doctrine simply doesn't apply
outside Catholicism. Even though too many Popes (and other religious
leaders) imagine their doctrines apply to everybody and rudely talk as
though they did.
Apart from that, what these people choose to do or not do is their own
damn business. They can listen to this fella if they like.
Which is why AIDS is spreading like wildfire in third world countries
that listen to his line on condoms.
That is a world problem.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
20 Apr 2005 12:02:43 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 20 Apr 2005 09:34:00 -0700, wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 20 Apr 2005 09:03:18 -0700, wrote:
quibbler wrote:
It's all over the next. I hope they call him pope adolf the
second.
Of course, adolf the first was hitler, ratzinger's idol. What
a
sad
commentary on catholicism that the Grand Inquisitor and suck
*****
for
JP2 has taken over the church.
What the ***** do you - as an atheist - CARE who runs the Catholic
Church? If anything, I welcome the fact that they've elected a
blunt-speaker who appears to put his views right out there in the
open.
If you don't like them, ignore them. But don't go around
wondering
why
they didn't elect a more moderate Pope when you wouldn't have
listened
to him either. Let them pick who they want. As for the Nazi
reference,
this guy in fairness to him deserted. Let the eccentric old guy
get
on
with being Pope, you get on with being you.
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists.
For fucks sake, water off a bloody duck's back. Most of the worlds
population disagrees with atheism and you're worried aobut this
*specific* guy? IGNORE him. Get on with your life.
Thank you for demonstrating your own bigotry.
Against whom? Atheists? I *am* one, you dolt. I just don't give a shot
what the Pope thinks about that. You shouldn't either.
As long as they lie about atheists they will be treated as the
bigoted
liars they show themselves to be. Just like the whining
fundamentalists who do the same.
Yeah, i.e. with complete indifference? Let them hate you all they like.
Hating them back is wasted energy. Ignore them.
Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Among people dumb enough to listen to this guys teaching on
contraception. Surely that's their business, no? I fail to see where
No. It is the whole world's business.
How so? You simply come back with an assertion but fail to elaborate.
Or the Vatican's unwarranted interference in both the European and US
democratic processes when it pushed for Europe to "acknowledge its
Christian heritage" and for American politicians who didn't follow
the
Vatican line to be refused communion?
This is in no way an *unwarrented* interference. Have you ever heard of
freedom of expression? If the Catholic Church or anyone else wants to
state their opinion with regard to what Europe acknowledges or doesn't
acknowledge, they're perfectly entitled to do so. On the question of
refusing communion, it's *their* fucking communion. They can withhold
it from anyone for any reason whatsoever, daft or otherwise.
you come in - unless there are a load of Catholic females in your
neck
of the woods who draw the line on the anti-Pope side of fornication
but
on the pro-Pope side of contraception. I didn't know such weird
girls
existed, but if they do, my heart really does go out to you.
What "anti-Pope side of fornication" would that be?
I mean people who are prepared to have sex outside marriage but
unprepared to wear a condom. Geddit?
Don't invent
"sides" when there aren't any. Catholic doctrine simply doesn't apply
outside Catholicism. Even though too many Popes (and other religious
leaders) imagine their doctrines apply to everybody and rudely talk
as
though they did.
So ignore them. They're perfectly entitled to think it applies outside
Catholicism and to say so too. Haven't you heard of freedom of
expression? People are allowed to be as daft as they like.
Apart from that, what these people choose to do or not do is their
own
damn business. They can listen to this fella if they like.
Which is why AIDS is spreading like wildfire in third world countries
that listen to his line on condoms.
That is a world problem.
And the way around it is not to silence the Church. It's to go out
there and educate.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Rat ***** ratzinger becomes 206th pope |
20 Apr 2005 01:12:48 PM |
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On 20 Apr 2005 10:02:43 -0700, wrote:
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists.
For fucks sake, water off a bloody duck's back. Most of the worlds
population disagrees with atheism and you're worried aobut this
*specific* guy? IGNORE him. Get on with your life.
Thank you for demonstrating your own bigotry.
Against whom? Atheists? I *am* one, you dolt. I just don't give a shot
what the Pope thinks about that. You shouldn't either.
Here's a clue: IT WAS THE RC CHURCH THAT "DEFINED" ATHEISTS AS PEOPLE
WHO BELIEVE THEIR GOD DOESN'T EXIST BASED ON THE PRESUMPTION THAT IT
DOES. From the actual and original meaning of one who isn't theist.
As long as they lie about atheists they will be treated as the
bigoted
liars they show themselves to be. Just like the whining
fundamentalists who do the same.
Yeah, i.e. with complete indifference? Let them hate you all they like.
Hating them back is wasted energy. Ignore them.
Where did I say I hated them? Clue: I didn't. I just treat them as the
liars they show themselves to be.
Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Among people dumb enough to listen to this guys teaching on
contraception. Surely that's their business, no? I fail to see where
No. It is the whole world's business.
How so? You simply come back with an assertion but fail to elaborate.
Did I really need to, troll?
Or do you honestly imagine that the AIDS pandemic isn't a world-wide
issue?
Or the Vatican's unwarranted interference in both the European and US
democratic processes when it pushed for Europe to "acknowledge its
Christian heritage" and for American politicians who didn't follow
the
Vatican line to be refused communion?
This is in no way an *unwarrented* interference. Have you ever heard of
freedom of expression? If the Catholic Church or anyone else wants to
state their opinion with regard to what Europe acknowledges or doesn't
acknowledge, they're perfectly entitled to do so. On the question of
refusing communion, it's *their* fucking communion. They can withhold
it from anyone for any reason whatsoever, daft or otherwise.
They were both unwarranted interference. As well as stupid.
Is the Vatican a member of either the EU or the USA? Hint: no.
Did they honestly imagine that protestants are going to vote for
Catholic politicians who vote the Vatican line?
you come in - unless there are a load of Catholic females in your
neck
of the woods who draw the line on the anti-Pope side of fornication
but
on the pro-Pope side of contraception. I didn't know such weird
girls
existed, but if they do, my heart really does go out to you.
What "anti-Pope side of fornication" would that be?
I mean people who are prepared to have sex outside marriage but
unprepared to wear a condom. Geddit?
You use language like "anti-Pope side of fornication" and pretend
you're atheist?
That's binary-thinking Catholic talk.
Don't invent
"sides" when there aren't any. Catholic doctrine simply doesn't apply
outside Catholicism. Even though too many Popes (and other religious
leaders) imagine their doctrines apply to everybody and rudely talk
as
though they did.
So ignore them. They're perfectly entitled to think it applies outside
Catholicism and to say so too. Haven't you heard of freedom of
expression? People are allowed to be as daft as they like.
BUT CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OVER CONDOMS AND ABSTINENCE IS SPREADING AIDS.
What word don't you understand?
Apart from that, what these people choose to do or not do is their
own
damn business. They can listen to this fella if they like.
Which is why AIDS is spreading like wildfire in third world countries
that listen to his line on condoms.
That is a world problem.
And the way around it is not to silence the Church. It's to go out
there and educate.
Nobody is "silencing the church", troll. They are criticising it for
its appalling stance that is causing misery and death. But then you
knew that anyway.
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| User: "" |
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21 Apr 2005 11:42:50 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 20 Apr 2005 10:02:43 -0700, wrote:
Several reasons, and not just their slander towards atheists.
For fucks sake, water off a bloody duck's back. Most of the
worlds
population disagrees with atheism and you're worried aobut this
*specific* guy? IGNORE him. Get on with your life.
Thank you for demonstrating your own bigotry.
Against whom? Atheists? I *am* one, you dolt. I just don't give a
shot
what the Pope thinks about that. You shouldn't either.
Here's a clue: IT WAS THE RC CHURCH THAT "DEFINED" ATHEISTS AS PEOPLE
WHO BELIEVE THEIR GOD DOESN'T EXIST BASED ON THE PRESUMPTION THAT IT
DOES. From the actual and original meaning of one who isn't theist.
What's this in here for? Why does the Vatican's definition of anything
matter a jot to you?
As long as they lie about atheists they will be treated as the
bigoted
liars they show themselves to be. Just like the whining
fundamentalists who do the same.
Yeah, i.e. with complete indifference? Let them hate you all they
like.
Hating them back is wasted energy. Ignore them.
Where did I say I hated them? Clue: I didn't. I just treat them as
the
liars they show themselves to be.
You quite clearly hate them. It shows, for example, in the
capitalisation above, in the obsession with what they think of you,
etc. Liars are ten a penny, do you obsess like this about them all? Let
it go. Ignore them. Get on with your life.
Their
medieval attitude to condoms which spreads AIDS is an example.
Among people dumb enough to listen to this guys teaching on
contraception. Surely that's their business, no? I fail to see
where
No. It is the whole world's business.
How so? You simply come back with an assertion but fail to
elaborate.
Did I really need to, troll?
Yes. You did. You still do.
Or do you honestly imagine that the AIDS pandemic isn't a world-wide
issue?
It's an issue for people infected, their relatives, friends, the
medical profession. Sorry, but it's not a world-wide issue.
Or the Vatican's unwarranted interference in both the European and
US
democratic processes when it pushed for Europe to "acknowledge its
Christian heritage" and for American politicians who didn't follow
the
Vatican line to be refused communion?
This is in no way an *unwarrented* interference. Have you ever heard
of
freedom of expression? If the Catholic Church or anyone else wants
to
state their opinion with regard to what Europe acknowledges or
doesn't
acknowledge, they're perfectly entitled to do so. On the question of
refusing communion, it's *their* fucking communion. They can
withhold
it from anyone for any reason whatsoever, daft or otherwise.
They were both unwarranted interference. As well as stupid.
More assertions in place of arguments.
Is the Vatican a member of either the EU or the USA? Hint: no.
Does it have to be? No. Just as you seem to feel competent to advise
the Vatican about who it chooses as Pope, and are free to make any
suggestion you please on any issue under the sun, the Pope is free to
spout whatever the Hell he likes about the USA, or the EU, or any other
fucking issue or country or person he likes. It's called free speech.
End of story.
Did they honestly imagine that protestants are going to vote for
Catholic politicians who vote the Vatican line?
That's got nothing at all to do with their *right* to attempt to sway
those Protestants. Again, free speech. Doesn't have to make sense, it's
still allowed.
you come in - unless there are a load of Catholic females in your
neck
of the woods who draw the line on the anti-Pope side of
fornication
but
on the pro-Pope side of contraception. I didn't know such weird
girls
existed, but if they do, my heart really does go out to you.
What "anti-Pope side of fornication" would that be?
I mean people who are prepared to have sex outside marriage but
unprepared to wear a condom. Geddit?
You use language like "anti-Pope side of fornication" and pretend
you're atheist?
Yes.
That's binary-thinking Catholic talk.
No, it simply states that the Pope is against sex outside marriage. He
is, after all. Doesn't mean I am.
Don't invent
"sides" when there aren't any. Catholic doctrine simply doesn't
apply
outside Catholicism. Even though too many Popes (and other
religious
leaders) imagine their doctrines apply to everybody and rudely
talk
as
though they did.
So ignore them. They're perfectly entitled to think it applies
outside
Catholicism and to say so too. Haven't you heard of freedom of
expression? People are allowed to be as daft as they like.
BUT CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OVER CONDOMS AND ABSTINENCE IS SPREADING AIDS.
What word don't you understand?
What do you not understand about freedom? People are entitled to spout
*****. Other people are allowed to swallow it. Are you likely
anytime soon to get AIDS because of what the RC says or RC people do?
No. So why all the emotion?
Apart from that, what these people choose to do or not do is
their
own
damn business. They can listen to this fella if they like.
Which is why AIDS is spreading like wildfire in third world
countries
that listen to his line on condoms.
That is a world problem.
And the way around it is not to silence the Church. It's to go out
there and educate.
Nobody is "silencing the church", troll. They are criticising it for
its appalling stance that is causing misery and death. But then you
knew that anyway.
You are attempting to silence it. I need only cite your absurd claim
that the Church doesn't have the right to try to influence the US
elections.
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