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19 Aug 2004 04:46:23 PM |
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Re : : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
And again:
A Republican True Believer so filled with hatred for
the truth, he claims Kerry wasn't under fire at the
time described in Kerry's Bronze Star citation,
despite that the man's _very_ _own_ Bronze Star
citation for the _very_ _same_ _event_ vividly
depicts all five "Swift" riverboats as under heavy
small arms fire.
You have to be pretty desperate to deny the well
documented events of your own heroism to hurt the
political candidacy of an opposing party member.
In fact, you have to be so desperate, people call
you ... a Republican.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20040819/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_war_critic
xanthian, raised by Republicans. I recovered.
People do.
"GOP"? "Grand Old Party?"
"Gratuitous Obsessive Prevaricators" is more like it.
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| User: " Roger Greer" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
19 Aug 2004 08:13:01 PM |
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You have to be pretty desperate to deny the well
documented events of your own heroism to hurt the
political candidacy of an opposing party member.
Kerry wrote his own history. It was a lie.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
21 Aug 2004 03:00:53 AM |
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" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message news:<hfWdnbSTkeyAzbjcRVn-tQ@giganews.com>...
You have to be pretty desperate to deny the well
documented events of your own heroism to hurt the
political candidacy of an opposing party member.
Kerry wrote his own history. It was a lie.
Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=all&position=
By KATE ZERNIKE and JIM RUTENBERG
An ad questioning John Kerry's war record sprang from an alliance
between Texas Republicans and veterans angry about Mr. Kerry's
criticism of the Vietnam War.
swift boat
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22swift%20boat%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22swift+boat%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22swift+boat%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&output=search&cat=gwd/Top
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=swift%20boat&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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| User: " Roger Greer" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
19 Aug 2004 08:08:20 PM |
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Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his lies.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
20 Aug 2004 12:03:50 AM |
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" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message
news:lcWdnVJXXsuY0rjcRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his lies.
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the
Swift Boat Liars has been caught in his lies by the
citation for his own Bronze Star received for the same
time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned. I posted the article in
alt.atheism a few hours ago. The dufus said that he
misplaced his copy of the citation over 20 years ago. I
guess it wasn't very important to him.
Do try to keep up.
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| User: "Eric Pepke" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
21 Aug 2004 04:00:55 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<0M2dnbCRO_KuG7jcRVn-og@comcast.com>...
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the
Swift Boat Liars has been caught in his lies by the
citation for his own Bronze Star received for the same
time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned.
Yep. And isn't it also interesting that the guy who claimed to
have treated Kerry doesn't actually have a signature on Kerry's
medical records? Funny that.
Of course, Bush doesn't have any records. They were all destroyed
in a fire and a flood, isn't that the story? Maybe there were giant,
paperwork-eating lizards from Planet 10 in there, too. It's so
hard to remember.
Also interesting that the group who put out those ads had a phone
campaign telling everyone that John McCain had a "black baby"
because he had adopted a child from Bangladesh.
Not that there's any point to this because, while I have met a
few people who supported Bush for rational reasons and can
respect their opinion if not agree with it, the micropublicans
who make such a big deal out of Kerry's war record are just
completely fuckin' out to lunch. Either a military record means
something, in which case one silver star easily trumps a few
years of goofing off and snorting blow, or else it doesn't,
in which case, hey, what's the big deal?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
20 Aug 2004 11:10:26 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:03:50 -0400 in episode
<0M2dnbCRO_KuG7jcRVn-og@comcast.com> we saw our hero "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>:
" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message
news:lcWdnVJXXsuY0rjcRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his
lies.
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the Swift Boat Liars
has been caught in his lies by the citation for his own Bronze Star
received for the same time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned. I posted the article in alt.atheism a few
hours ago. The dufus said that he misplaced his copy of the citation over
20 years ago. I guess it wasn't very important to him.
Do try to keep up.
Didn't they just release the military records of one of the guys who said
that Kerry did not (how is it put?) "receive fire" only to find that the
guy's *own *account was that fire was being received at the time?
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
21 Aug 2004 12:29:23 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:10:26 -0500 in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet
stall:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:03:50 -0400 in episode
<0M2dnbCRO_KuG7jcRVn-og@comcast.com> we saw our hero "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>:
" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message
news:lcWdnVJXXsuY0rjcRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his
lies.
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the Swift Boat Liars
has been caught in his lies by the citation for his own Bronze Star
received for the same time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned. I posted the article in alt.atheism a few
hours ago. The dufus said that he misplaced his copy of the citation over
20 years ago. I guess it wasn't very important to him.
Do try to keep up.
Didn't they just release the military records of one of the guys who said
that Kerry did not (how is it put?) "receive fire" only to find that the
guy's *own *account was that fire was being received at the time?
I know the dude who was in the water gave that account. But I haven't heard
that any of the SBV accounts contained that information.
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "CJT" |
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| Title: Re: : kinda makes you proud not to be a Republican |
20 Aug 2004 09:47:26 PM |
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Uncle Dollar Bill wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:10:26 -0500 in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet
stall:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:03:50 -0400 in episode
<0M2dnbCRO_KuG7jcRVn-og@comcast.com> we saw our hero "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>:
" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message
news:lcWdnVJXXsuY0rjcRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his
lies.
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the Swift Boat Liars
has been caught in his lies by the citation for his own Bronze Star
received for the same time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned. I posted the article in alt.atheism a few
hours ago. The dufus said that he misplaced his copy of the citation over
20 years ago. I guess it wasn't very important to him.
Do try to keep up.
Didn't they just release the military records of one of the guys who said
that Kerry did not (how is it put?) "receive fire" only to find that the
guy's *own *account was that fire was being received at the time?
I know the dude who was in the water gave that account. But I haven't heard
that any of the SBV accounts contained that information.
I believe one SBV guy's medal from the same incident was based partly on
a claim of being under fire, and another one has now admitted that he
didn't really have any first-hand knowledge, but was relying on hearsay
for his "recollection." I read that a third said he was pressured into
signing his affidavit and regrets doing so, and that the paperwork from
that day contradicts the doctor who claims he treated Kerry.
I think it's all a house of cards, and that McCain (who apparently was
the target of a similar smear by some of the same folks) is right.
It's unfortunate that it will take some time to expose all the lies,
and some people will end up believing them, anyway, but that's what the
liars are relying on -- dirty tricks sometimes work.
--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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21 Aug 2004 12:59:09 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 02:47:26 GMT in alt.atheism, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net>
defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet stall:
Uncle Dollar Bill wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:10:26 -0500 in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet
stall:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:03:50 -0400 in episode
<0M2dnbCRO_KuG7jcRVn-og@comcast.com> we saw our hero "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>:
" Roger Greer" <rgreer@tcmax.net> wrote in message
news:lcWdnVJXXsuY0rjcRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Kerry runs on his Viet Nam record and whines when he's caught in his
lies.
You're a little behind the times, aren't you? One of the Swift Boat Liars
has been caught in his lies by the citation for his own Bronze Star
received for the same time as Kerry's and in which the shots from guns and
automatic weapons is mentioned. I posted the article in alt.atheism a few
hours ago. The dufus said that he misplaced his copy of the citation over
20 years ago. I guess it wasn't very important to him.
Do try to keep up.
Didn't they just release the military records of one of the guys who said
that Kerry did not (how is it put?) "receive fire" only to find that the
guy's *own *account was that fire was being received at the time?
I know the dude who was in the water gave that account. But I haven't heard
that any of the SBV accounts contained that information.
I believe one SBV guy's medal from the same incident was based partly on
a claim of being under fire, and another one has now admitted that he
didn't really have any first-hand knowledge, but was relying on hearsay
for his "recollection." I read that a third said he was pressured into
signing his affidavit and regrets doing so, and that the paperwork from
that day contradicts the doctor who claims he treated Kerry.
I think it's all a house of cards, and that McCain (who apparently was
the target of a similar smear by some of the same folks) is right.
It's unfortunate that it will take some time to expose all the lies,
and some people will end up believing them, anyway, but that's what the
liars are relying on -- dirty tricks sometimes work.
True enough. There are still people who believe that picture of Kerry with Jane
Fonda is real. People who must be sorely in need of glasses, obviously.
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "Michael Marxist Moore" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:10:11 PM |
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Kerry shill caught in act! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!
ANTI-KERRY VETS HANG TOUGH
Fri Aug 06 2004 13:37:12 ET
The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth concerns
an
article appearing in morning edition of the BOSTON GLOBE, written by
GLOBE reporter and author of the official Kerry-Edwards campaign
book,
Mike Kranish.
"Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today's
edition
of the BOSTON GLOBE by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and
highly
misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the
current
advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain
Elliott reaffirms his affidavit in support of that advertisement, and
he
reaffirms his request that the ad be played.
"Additional documentation will follow.
"The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102
of
Mr. Kranish's own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he
killed
a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would
turn around.
"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 supporters who are
revealing first hand, eyewitness accounts of numerous incidents
concerning John Kerry's military service record. The organization
will
continue to discuss much of what John Kerry has reported as fact
concerning his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam."
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm
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Liberals Hate America!
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