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"Jeff W." |
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26 Sep 2005 04:18:11 PM |
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Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@0NCE.N3T> wrote in message
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Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC:
*****. Anti-Bush is not pro-terrorist, in spite of what ignorant Nazi
fucks like you want to believe.
Those who volunteer to serve their country in the United States military are
by understanding agreeing to make the supreme sacrifice in answer to their
country's call - and this is something to be honored by all Americans.
This does not preclude the responsibilty of every American to demand from
our elected and appointed leaders the highest possible standards when
considering whether to send those who serve into harm's way in defense of
this great nation. George W. Bush and his accolytes have grossly failed in
this responsibilty, and it is in honor of those who serve and have died for
this country that we who speak out against this administration do so as part
of our patriotic duty to the United States of America.
George W. Bush and his supporters have helped the 9/11 mass murderers
succeed beyond their wildest dreams. America is divided internally; more
Americans are dead; the world is united against America, terrorism
world-wide has TRIPLED; and the middle-east's newest recruiting and training
ground for terrorists - Iraq - is about to implement a socialist Islamic
theocracy.
Nice job.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
26 Sep 2005 05:04:04 PM |
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"Jeff W." <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1127769490.de1a3ab1e4c9919d76113fff57123ed0@meganetnews2:
"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@0NCE.N3T> wrote in message
news:eoggj1922ndtidca2cf2mjlec70eurk8ea@4ax.com...
Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC:
*****. Anti-Bush is not pro-terrorist, in spite of what ignorant
Nazi fucks like you want to believe.
That may be true in the abstract, but in reality, the people who
participated in those marches aren't just anti-Bush or anti-war, they're
on the other side.
Those who volunteer to serve their country in the United States
military are by understanding agreeing to make the supreme sacrifice
in answer to their country's call - and this is something to be
honored by all Americans.
This does not preclude the responsibilty of every American to demand
from our elected and appointed leaders the highest possible standards
when considering whether to send those who serve into harm's way in
defense of this great nation. George W. Bush and his accolytes have
grossly failed in this responsibilty, and it is in honor of those who
serve and have died for this country that we who speak out against
this administration do so as part of our patriotic duty to the United
States of America.
George W. Bush and his supporters have helped the 9/11 mass murderers
succeed beyond their wildest dreams. America is divided internally;
more Americans are dead; the world is united against America,
terrorism world-wide has TRIPLED; and the middle-east's newest
recruiting and training ground for terrorists - Iraq - is about to
implement a socialist Islamic theocracy.
Nice job.
Even if that were true, since when do libs object to socialists or
Islamists or terrorists? The Palestinians are all of those, and which
libs ever objected to them or their tactics?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"This city, for the first time that I can remember,
is drug-free and violence-free.
And we plan to keep it that way." - Mayor Ray Nagin
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
26 Sep 2005 06:14:59 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Jeff W." <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1127769490.de1a3ab1e4c9919d76113fff57123ed0@meganetnews2:
"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@0NCE.N3T> wrote in message
news:eoggj1922ndtidca2cf2mjlec70eurk8ea@4ax.com...
Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC:
*****. Anti-Bush is not pro-terrorist, in spite of what ignorant
Nazi fucks like you want to believe.
That may be true in the abstract, but in reality, the people who
participated in those marches aren't just anti-Bush or anti-war, they're
on the other side.
The "terrorist march" seemed very much like an anti-Bush rally. How in
the hell does this translate into "on the other side?" I didn't see a
single indication of that.
Those who volunteer to serve their country in the United States
military are by understanding agreeing to make the supreme sacrifice
in answer to their country's call - and this is something to be
honored by all Americans.
This does not preclude the responsibilty of every American to demand
from our elected and appointed leaders the highest possible standards
when considering whether to send those who serve into harm's way in
defense of this great nation. George W. Bush and his accolytes have
grossly failed in this responsibilty, and it is in honor of those who
serve and have died for this country that we who speak out against
this administration do so as part of our patriotic duty to the United
States of America.
George W. Bush and his supporters have helped the 9/11 mass murderers
succeed beyond their wildest dreams. America is divided internally;
more Americans are dead; the world is united against America,
terrorism world-wide has TRIPLED; and the middle-east's newest
recruiting and training ground for terrorists - Iraq - is about to
implement a socialist Islamic theocracy.
Nice job.
Even if that were true, since when do libs object to socialists or
Islamists or terrorists? The Palestinians are all of those, and which
libs ever objected to them or their tactics?
Objected to terrorism? I'd imagine every "lib" does. Every rational
person I've ever met certainly qualifies as a lib, then.
Take it from a guy that doesn't live in your country, Fred: you people
are going fucking crazy. Someone protests a war, the supporters label
them "anti-American." Whatever that is. Someone supports a war,
they're labelled fascist murderers. From what I see, an American can't
fart in the ***** street these days without some ideological opposite
claiming that it smelled like semen. What is up with that? Are the
days of intelligent discussion between adults that don't agree over?
Was it always like this? Is it an effect of 9/11? I've never seen
another country allow non-civil war politics to become so violent.
--
James B
aa #944
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
-David Hume
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
27 Sep 2005 08:15:58 AM |
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In article <11jh0725v79i44@corp.supernews.com>, James
<spamblock@com.com> wrote:
Take it from a guy that doesn't live in your country, Fred: you people
are going fucking crazy. Someone protests a war, the supporters label
them "anti-American." Whatever that is. Someone supports a war,
they're labelled fascist murderers. From what I see, an American can't
fart in the ***** street these days without some ideological opposite
claiming that it smelled like semen. What is up with that? Are the
days of intelligent discussion between adults that don't agree over?
Yep.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
26 Sep 2005 07:19:22 PM |
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James <spamblock@com.com> wrote in
news:11jh0725v79i44@corp.supernews.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Jeff W." <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1127769490.de1a3ab1e4c9919d76113fff57123ed0@meganetnews2:
"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@0NCE.N3T> wrote in message
news:eoggj1922ndtidca2cf2mjlec70eurk8ea@4ax.com...
Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC:
*****. Anti-Bush is not pro-terrorist, in spite of what ignorant
Nazi fucks like you want to believe.
That may be true in the abstract, but in reality, the people who
participated in those marches aren't just anti-Bush or anti-war,
they're on the other side.
The "terrorist march" seemed very much like an anti-Bush rally. How
in the hell does this translate into "on the other side?" I didn't
see a single indication of that.
Two major contingents were pro-PLO groups and A.N.S.W.E.R, a Stalinist
front group.
Those who volunteer to serve their country in the United States
military are by understanding agreeing to make the supreme sacrifice
in answer to their country's call - and this is something to be
honored by all Americans.
This does not preclude the responsibilty of every American to demand
from our elected and appointed leaders the highest possible standards
when considering whether to send those who serve into harm's way in
defense of this great nation. George W. Bush and his accolytes have
grossly failed in this responsibilty, and it is in honor of those who
serve and have died for this country that we who speak out against
this administration do so as part of our patriotic duty to the United
States of America.
George W. Bush and his supporters have helped the 9/11 mass murderers
succeed beyond their wildest dreams. America is divided internally;
more Americans are dead; the world is united against America,
terrorism world-wide has TRIPLED; and the middle-east's newest
recruiting and training ground for terrorists - Iraq - is about to
implement a socialist Islamic theocracy.
Nice job.
Even if that were true, since when do libs object to socialists or
Islamists or terrorists? The Palestinians are all of those, and which
libs ever objected to them or their tactics?
Objected to terrorism? I'd imagine every "lib" does. Every rational
person I've ever met certainly qualifies as a lib, then.
Except for Palestinian terrorism, which they justify as long as they're
blowing up Israelis. I have personally been involved in those sorts of
discussion threads.
Take it from a guy that doesn't live in your country, Fred: you people
are going fucking crazy. Someone protests a war, the supporters label
them "anti-American." Whatever that is.
Some of the war protestors *are* anti-American. In the broadest sense of
the word, they not only oppose the war but the entire liberal-capitalist
economic and political system.
Someone supports a war,
they're labelled fascist murderers. From what I see, an American
can't fart in the ***** street these days without some ideological
opposite claiming that it smelled like semen. What is up with that?
I don't know, I've been called every name in the book for challenging
some of the falsehoods that have been paraded about in alt.atheism.
Are the days of intelligent discussion between adults that don't agree
over?
I wish it could be otherwise. The two parties have become so radicalized
that they go right off the deep end when confronted.
Was it always like this? Is it an effect of 9/11? I've never seen
another country allow non-civil war politics to become so violent.
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical. There is not nearly the level of
actual violence that occurred during the Vietnam war.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"This city, for the first time that I can remember,
is drug-free and violence-free.
And we plan to keep it that way." - Mayor Ray Nagin
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| User: "_ G O D _" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
26 Sep 2005 11:57:27 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
news:1127780362.e6589a271c42c4f7cf46d96d37097869@teranews...
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical.
There is not nearly the level of actual
violence that occurred during the
Vietnam war.
The war violence could hardly be called
"rhetorical," because it's _methodical_,
just like the violence occured during all
wars, including violence in Vietnam war...
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all *****-suckers
together with institutions of the industrialized slavery and genocide.
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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvies, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
27 Sep 2005 06:23:41 AM |
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"_ G O D _" <demigod1@sprint.ca> wrote in news:dj4_e.4172$5I2.15407
@newscontent-01.sprint.ca:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
news:1127780362.e6589a271c42c4f7cf46d96d37097869@teranews...
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical.
There is not nearly the level of actual
violence that occurred during the
Vietnam war.
The war violence could hardly be called
"rhetorical," because it's _methodical_,
just like the violence occured during all
wars, including violence in Vietnam war...
The subject was partisan conflict at home, not the fighting in the war.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"This city, for the first time that I can remember,
is drug-free and violence-free.
And we plan to keep it that way." - Mayor Ray Nagin
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| User: "_ G O D _" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
26 Sep 2005 11:50:01 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
news:1127780362.e6589a271c42c4f7cf46d96d37097869@teranews...
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical.
There is not nearly the level of actual
violence that occurred during the
Vietnam war.
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| User: "_ G O D _" |
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27 Sep 2005 01:43:33 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:50:01 -0700, "_ G O D _" <demigod1@sprint.ca>
wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
news:1127780362.e6589a271c42c4f7cf46d96d37097869@teranews...
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical.
There is not nearly the level of actual
violence that occurred during the
Vietnam war.
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
27 Sep 2005 12:42:46 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
<snip>
Except for Palestinian terrorism, which they justify as long as they're
blowing up Israelis. I have personally been involved in those sorts of
discussion threads.
It must be a fringe thing, then.
Take it from a guy that doesn't live in your country, Fred: you people
are going fucking crazy. Someone protests a war, the supporters label
them "anti-American." Whatever that is.
Some of the war protestors *are* anti-American. In the broadest sense of
the word, they not only oppose the war but the entire liberal-capitalist
economic and political system.
I wouldn't think that a system of economics is what defines a country.
I also wouldn't think that objecting to a political system would make a
person any less patriotic about their country than, say, objecting to
capital punishment or abortion. It seems to me that "anti-American" is
just another slur people use to denigrate someone they disagree with so
that they don't have to take their arguments seriously.
Maybe I'm anti-American when I try to point out they negative things I
notice about the American mindframe. I have no idea. It just seems an
easy way out of a discussion.
Someone supports a war,
they're labelled fascist murderers. From what I see, an American
can't fart in the ***** street these days without some ideological
opposite claiming that it smelled like semen. What is up with that?
I don't know, I've been called every name in the book for challenging
some of the falsehoods that have been paraded about in alt.atheism.
Your opinion doesn't irritate me because I disagree with it. Call me
conceited, but I try to make that distinction as often as possible.
Are the days of intelligent discussion between adults that don't agree
over?
I wish it could be otherwise. The two parties have become so radicalized
that they go right off the deep end when confronted.
We agree on that.
Was it always like this? Is it an effect of 9/11? I've never seen
another country allow non-civil war politics to become so violent.
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical. There is not nearly the level of
actual violence that occurred during the Vietnam war.
I suppose I should've been more clear about that. Yes, to my knowledge,
there haven't been many Liberal/Conservative street brawls along the
lines of the religious riots in Ireland. But judging from the way
people talk to each other, I can't say I'd be surprised if that will
come eventually.
--
James B
aa #944
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
-David Hume
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: ## Massive Liberal Pro Terrorist March in DC ## |
27 Sep 2005 01:52:53 PM |
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James <spamblock@com.com> wrote in
news:11jj141548g4tb7@corp.supernews.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
<snip>
Except for Palestinian terrorism, which they justify as long as
they're blowing up Israelis. I have personally been involved in those
sorts of discussion threads.
It must be a fringe thing, then.
I suppose. There were pro-Hamas groups at the "anti-war" rally in
Washington.
Take it from a guy that doesn't live in your country, Fred: you
people are going fucking crazy. Someone protests a war, the
supporters label them "anti-American." Whatever that is.
Some of the war protestors *are* anti-American. In the broadest sense
of the word, they not only oppose the war but the entire
liberal-capitalist economic and political system.
I wouldn't think that a system of economics is what defines a country.
I also wouldn't think that objecting to a political system would make
a person any less patriotic about their country than, say, objecting
to capital punishment or abortion.
I'm not talking about criticizing a political *party* but the whole
concept of constitutional democracy. A.N.S.W.E.R. is a Stalinist front
organization. Their published manifesto is *way* out there.
It seems to me that
"anti-American" is just another slur people use to denigrate someone
they disagree with so that they don't have to take their arguments
seriously.
Maybe I'm anti-American when I try to point out they negative things I
notice about the American mindframe. I have no idea. It just seems
an easy way out of a discussion.
I wouldn't call that anti-American. We have a tradition of critical
opposition to the current government, as long as they stick within the
Constitutional system.
You'd be anti-American if you supported our enemies in wartime or called
for the violent overthrow of our government.
Someone supports a war,
they're labelled fascist murderers. From what I see, an American
can't fart in the ***** street these days without some ideological
opposite claiming that it smelled like semen. What is up with that?
I don't know, I've been called every name in the book for challenging
some of the falsehoods that have been paraded about in alt.atheism.
Your opinion doesn't irritate me because I disagree with it. Call me
conceited, but I try to make that distinction as often as possible.
Are the days of intelligent discussion between adults that don't
agree over?
I wish it could be otherwise. The two parties have become so
radicalized that they go right off the deep end when confronted.
We agree on that.
Was it always like this? Is it an effect of 9/11? I've never seen
another country allow non-civil war politics to become so violent.
Oh, the violence is mostly rhetorical. There is not nearly the level
of actual violence that occurred during the Vietnam war.
I suppose I should've been more clear about that. Yes, to my
knowledge, there haven't been many Liberal/Conservative street brawls
along the lines of the religious riots in Ireland. But judging from
the way people talk to each other, I can't say I'd be surprised if
that will come eventually.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"This city, for the first time that I can remember,
is drug-free and violence-free.
And we plan to keep it that way." - Mayor Ray Nagin
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