Religions > Atheism > Re: # of 'kinds' of cattle, birds, and beasts of the field today?
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"david ford" |
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09 May 2006 09:11:06 AM |
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Re: # of 'kinds' of cattle, birds, and beasts of the field today? |
Tim K. wrote:
"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1146865759.899515.168230@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
How many 'kinds' of cattle, birds, and beasts of the field are there
today?
For purposes of answering this question, a teacup poodle, wolf, and
Great Dane are all 1 (one) 'kind.'
"Kind" has no meaning in the context of zoology. The bible is not a primer
on natural history - it was written by people who were essentially clueless
as to how the world works.
hth
"The bible... was written by people who were essentially clueless as to
how the world works."
Was this written by people who were essentially clueless as to how the
world works?:
2 Timothy 1, from verses 8-9 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%201;&version=31;
....God,
9 who has saved us and called us to a holy life-- not
because of anything we have done but because of his
own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in
Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,....
Titus 1 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=titus%201;&version=31;
2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of
eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised
before the beginning of time,
3 and at his appointed season he brought his word to
light through the preaching entrusted to me by the
command of God our Savior....
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Compare:
Psalm 90:2, John 17:5 and 17:24, Ephesians 1:4-5, 1 Peter 1:20
astronomer Robert Jastrow speaks
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980502234441.3024B-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
Now we would like to pursue that inquiry farther
back in time, but the barrier to further progress
seems insurmountable. It is not a matter of another
year, another decade of work, another measurement,
or another theory; at this moment it seems as though
science will never be able to raise the curtain on the
mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived
by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends
like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak;
as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted
by a band of theologians who have been sitting there
for centuries.
The Search for a Loophole to the Beginning of the Universe
in the Big Bang
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005292327160.25513-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
Go Away, Flood Geology
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981223232528.26657B-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
go away, young-earthism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.44L.01.0310190200530.8725-100000%40linux1.gl.umbc.edu
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
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| User: "Marc" |
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09 May 2006 10:13:54 AM |
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david ford wrote:
Tim K. wrote:
........................... SNiP ....
"The bible... was written by people who were essentially clueless as to
how the world works."
Was this written by people who were essentially clueless as to how the
world works?:
2 Timothy 1, from verses 8-9 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%201;&version=31;
..... snip
Hello Mr. Ford,
Four thousand Talk Origin posts.... nearly four and a half thousand,
I see. I think that I've heard your name mentioned here a few times,
but perhaps have not posted much when you were busy here, as
I think that I have read just a handful of your posts. Do you quote
the Bible often in discussion about evolution or have I just caught
you on an inspired day?
With all those posts, you must have had a few nominated for a
Post of the Month, right? Or do you try to the Chez Watt awards?
Did you know that the ability of the brain to have religous experience
is a result of evolution of the neurochemical stimulation for some
nerves that have become clustered in a way that leads to this
kind of thing? If all the different religions could understand this,
they would see how they are all true in their individual ways, at
least within the cognative experience of the individual. "God" is
a sensation that evolved within the central nervous system of
some primates (us for one) and perhaps a few other species to
various degrees. But don't worry about it, science will work it out.
Meanwhile, the genome projects (visit the GOLD page to see just
how many are completed or underway http://www.genomesonline.org/ )
are showing us the fine detail of the results of various evolutionary
outcomes. Fossils are showing us some features, genomes tell the
story from a different perspective. All those pesky little mutations,
big
mutations, environmental outcomes, selection forces, duplications,
inversions, deletions and comparative sequence analysis has the
ability to tease apart many of the threads so we can see how this
magic carpet of life was woven from the threads of the chromosomes.
Developmental stages are being unravelled for a number of these
evolutionary pathways, with cell divisions and stem cell fates able to
be followed by many methods, various tissues can now be grown
in culture to designed effect. (Just hope that if you do have a serious
tumour, that they can use your own immunity to fight the cancer
after boosting it in the culture flask.) We almost had microbes on
the ropes, defeated with antibiotics, but then a rather ignorant part
of the population (who don't know a bacterium from a virus) would
want antibiotics for every cold and flu, and would also start giving
the
antibiotics to the livestock they farmed, so that now many are not
useful anymore. And evolution of course just makes it worse, with
gene flow between bacterial species spreading the resistance genes.
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff? Much of the genomic
data is easily available online (such as at NCBI or UCSC) so just
ask if you need any advice for how to browse various genomes, OK?
Just one other question - in looking back at the historical context of
understanding the basic secrets of molucular biology in the last 50
years, have you experienced the joy of Crick and Watson's Nature
article - just a one page or so little thing - with the "it has not
escaped
out notice" phrase at the end? Just have another look at it -
http://www.nature.com/nature/dna50/watsoncrick.pdf - and tell me
what you think, since that was the start of a new world view that
leads us to the outlook we have today within the gene mapping and
genomics world. Look at the 1953 paper, then look at an issue of
Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS, Am.J.Hum.Genet., J. Exp. Med.,
MBE, Hum.Mol.Genet. or any of hundreds of the journals with good,
peer-reviewed genetics and molecular biology, and see where that
one breakthrough has carried us. We might not find the fossil, but
we can unravel the genome just the same.
(signed) marc
"Siding with evolution does not really pose a serious problem
for many deeply religious people, because one can easily
accept evolution without doubting the existence of a non-material
being. On the other hand, the truly radical and still maturing view
in the neuroscience community that the mind is entirely the product
of the brain presents the ultimate challenge to nearly all religions."
Kenneth S. Kosik (Nature vol 439, p138)
Neuroscience gears up for duel on the issue of brain versus deity
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v439/n7073/full/439138a.html
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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09 May 2006 11:13:32 AM |
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Marc wrote:
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff?
Neither, Mr. Ford is here to show his utter ignorance of human origins,
and his total refusal to try to remedy this ignorance.
Jim
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| User: "Marc" |
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10 May 2006 03:36:57 AM |
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J Forbes wrote:
Marc wrote:
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff?
Neither, Mr. Ford is here to show his utter ignorance of human origins,
and his total refusal to try to remedy this ignorance.
I think I kind of knew that, but then I was posting for the lurkers....
Hello Lurkers!
(signed) marc
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| User: "david ford" |
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| Title: Re: # of 'kinds' of cattle, birds, and beasts of the field today? |
10 May 2006 10:09:20 AM |
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Marc wrote:
J Forbes wrote:
Marc wrote:
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff?
Neither, Mr. Ford is here to show his utter ignorance of human origins,
and his total refusal to try to remedy this ignorance.
To illustrate:
"Human evolution has been viewed as a ladder of progress. Recent
discoveries have discredited the notion of a single lineage,
_Australopithecus africanus_--_Homo erectus_--_Homo sapiens_, with
gradual increase in brain size within each taxon. All new evidence
points to a branching bush with rapid origination and a subsequent
stasis within taxa (Eldredge and....)." "In any case, there is no
direct evidence for gradualism _within_ any hominid taxon--_A.
africanus_, _A. robustus_, A. boisei_, _H. habilis_, _H. erectus_, and
even _H. sapiens_. Each species disappears looking much as it did at
its origin; admittedly 'progressive' trends result from the
differential
survival of discrete taxa."[G&E, _Paleobiology_ 3:135 (1977).]
I think I kind of knew that, but then I was posting for the lurkers....
Hello Lurkers!
(signed) marc
Hello, there.
_Paleobiology_ 3: 134 (1977), G&E:
In fact, most published commentary on punctuated equilibria has
been favorable. We are especially pleased that several
paleontologists now state with pride and biological confidence
a conclusion that had previously been simply embarrassing ('all
these years of work and I haven't found any evolution').
Gould's 1980 "Is a new and general theory of evolution emerging?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406040941.7de39c48%40posting.google.com
Essay on Problems with Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005310900310.17702-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
historical background to rise and fall of the Synthetic Euphoria; 1936
A. Franklin Shull
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0403271329.1e569adf%40posting.google.com
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| User: "Tracy P. Hamilton" |
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10 May 2006 10:54:58 AM |
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david ford wrote:
Marc wrote:
J Forbes wrote:
Marc wrote:
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff?
Neither, Mr. Ford is here to show his utter ignorance of human origins,
and his total refusal to try to remedy this ignorance.
To illustrate:
"Human evolution has been viewed as a ladder of progress. Recent
discoveries have discredited the notion of a single lineage,
_Australopithecus africanus_--_Homo erectus_--_Homo sapiens_, with
gradual increase in brain size within each taxon. All new evidence
points to a branching bush with rapid origination and a subsequent
stasis within taxa (Eldredge and....)." "In any case, there is no
direct evidence for gradualism _within_ any hominid taxon--_A.
africanus_, _A. robustus_, A. boisei_, _H. habilis_, _H. erectus_, and
even _H. sapiens_. Each species disappears looking much as it did at
its origin; admittedly 'progressive' trends result from the
differential
survival of discrete taxa."[G&E, _Paleobiology_ 3:135 (1977).]
I think I kind of knew that, but then I was posting for the lurkers....
Hello Lurkers!
(signed) marc
Hello, there.
I'm David Ford, and I'm a quote-aholic. I show no evidence of
understanding the things I read, because I never say anything.
Please stop me before I do it again!
_Paleobiology_ 3: 134 (1977), G&E:
In fact, most published commentary on punctuated equilibria has
been favorable. We are especially pleased that several
paleontologists now state with pride and biological confidence
a conclusion that had previously been simply embarrassing ('all
these years of work and I haven't found any evolution').
Help me, please!
Also, I am also a self-linkaholic. Once I do one, I can't stop.
Gould's 1980 "Is a new and general theory of evolution emerging?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406040941.7de39c48%40posting.google.com
Essay on Problems with Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005310900310.17702-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
historical background to rise and fall of the Synthetic Euphoria; 1936
A. Franklin Shull
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0403271329.1e569adf%40posting.google.com
Tracy P. Hamilton
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| User: "david ford" |
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11 May 2006 08:34:10 AM |
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Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
david ford wrote:
Marc wrote:
J Forbes wrote:
Marc wrote:
Do you have any background in these areas of science or are you
a layperson here to learn more about this stuff?
Neither, Mr. Ford is here to show his utter ignorance of human origins,
and his total refusal to try to remedy this ignorance.
To illustrate:
"Human evolution has been viewed as a ladder of progress. Recent
discoveries have discredited the notion of a single lineage,
_Australopithecus africanus_--_Homo erectus_--_Homo sapiens_, with
gradual increase in brain size within each taxon. All new evidence
points to a branching bush with rapid origination and a subsequent
stasis within taxa (Eldredge and....)." "In any case, there is no
direct evidence for gradualism _within_ any hominid taxon--_A.
africanus_, _A. robustus_, A. boisei_, _H. habilis_, _H. erectus_, and
even _H. sapiens_. Each species disappears looking much as it did at
its origin; admittedly 'progressive' trends result from the
differential
survival of discrete taxa."[G&E, _Paleobiology_ 3:135 (1977).]
I think I kind of knew that, but then I was posting for the lurkers....
Hello Lurkers!
(signed) marc
Hello, there.
I'm David Ford, and I'm a quote-aholic. I show no evidence of
understanding the things I read, because I never say anything.
I never say anything. Including statements that I never say anything.
Please stop me before I do it again!
_Paleobiology_ 3: 134 (1977), G&E:
In fact, most published commentary on punctuated equilibria has
been favorable. We are especially pleased that several
paleontologists now state with pride and biological confidence
a conclusion that had previously been simply embarrassing ('all
these years of work and I haven't found any evolution').
Help me, please!
Also, I am also a self-linkaholic. Once I do one, I can't stop.
Help me, please!
reply to Tracy re: Darwin and Spencer
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143563960.506493.270320%40g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Charles Darwin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138716868.472338.186610%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.*(3)
Go Away, Flood Geology
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981223232528.26657B-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
resistance to Hitler
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1146158953.142022.188680%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
the hoax of the 'Dark Ages'
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133797608.826492.305030%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Would you mind if 10 teens in your neighborhood became addicted to
playing the violent video game Grand Theft Auto?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1146590171.499422.66790%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
spread of a quite nasty chlamydia strain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145045688.509125.221080%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
chlamydia charts & tables
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145478379.852972.116650%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Let's sterilize the [J. Huxley]"genetically subnormal"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145972476.317841.105780%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Dawkins: "the God of the Old Testament has got to be the most
unpleasant character in all fiction"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1136816955.742178.140650%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
rallying slogan for atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1144250342.999150.199940%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
1939 Goebbels: "The Fuhrer is... completely anti-Christian."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145975885.494352.40950%40g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1935/9 Carrel: "criminality and insanity can be prevented... by
eugenics"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145629331.433399.159720%40t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Hitler and 1916 English/1923 German Madison Grant
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145413908.007101.312670%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
Darwinist Bolsche; Nazi Darwinist Johann S.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143660228.632158.182410%40t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Claim: Haeckel joined the Thule Society.
Reality: that claim is unsubstantiated:
control - f/ "find" for: the search
http://www.waldorfcritics.com/active/archives/WCA0102.2.html
control - f/ "find" for: apologies
http://www.xn--enzyklopdie-s8a.de/Ernst_Haeckel.html
Excusing Child Abuse
You've heard about pedophile priests. Now meet the pro-pedophile
professors.
http://www.boundless.org/2001/regulars/kaufman/a0000582.html
Selling Homosexuality
Marketing strategies aren't just for Pepsi. Gay activists have one
too-- and if you want to see the results, just turn on your TV.
http://www.boundless.org/2001/regulars/kaufman/a0000605.html
1939 R. T. Smallbones: "The explanation for this outbreak of sadistic
cruelty may be that sexual perversion, and, in particular,
homosexuality, are very prevalent in Germany."
Igra: homosexuality a "poisoned stream" in human history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1144986392.404825.109570%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
There's no need to restrain one's sexual and other impulses.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143038072.680883.42950%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
1864 Huxley on lower and higher races, and the Aryan
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142351559.965395.318780%40v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com
Hitler praises Ford!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138285521.918249.243580%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Popper: "I am glad to have an opportunity to make a recantation"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1129347117.899920.248920%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1941 Fritz Thyssen, 1971 Richard Grunberger
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1144433963.854058.286740%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
Dawkins on cosmic vs. gamma rays
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0408160634.71465432%40posting.google.com
Smallbones: "mass sexual perversity may" explain "outbreak of sadistic
cruelty" in Germany
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1144166889.770441.195660%40g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
a t.o. heavyweight takes on Hitler
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143904445.023098.35410%40j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
atheocracy contribute to rise of Islamic terrorism?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409041200.1d223c3b%40posting.google.com
atheocracy at work: harvesting of inmates' organs
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060323-114842-5680r.htm
Wells, Ray, Barton, Platt
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1128523609.669113.175570%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Lenny Lapon's "Mass Murderers in White Coats (From Harvard to
Buchenwald: A Chronology of Psychiatry and Eugenics)"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9m196l$hk9$0%40dosa.alt.net
"Was Adolf Hitler a Homosexual?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=14gv61914jp6oun4kep06366r8k1an35la%404ax.com
Clinton lies about Iraq
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134078990.348534.274260%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
the 'religiously-unacceptable'
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143562750.852237.173120%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Krueger; reply to Tracy re: Rauschning
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143165740.763792.5930%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
3 questions for Aaron
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143555700.939891.6600%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Mindreader Mitchell, do you consider the freethinker/ atheist
Ingersoll, the atheist Dawkins, the atheist Marx, and/or Mencken
"bigots"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141916925.353567.255240%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Mencken, Buchner
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142031371.056323.160400%40v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com
Marx: "money is the zealous one God of Israel.... The bill of exchange
is the Jew's real God."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141741566.160783.276880%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Marx re: Lassalle: "Judel Itzig"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142452381.352392.150900%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
Rohm and male prostitutes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142368697.650639.66220%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
Darwinianity-popularizer Bolsche in _Mein Kampf_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143260442.793652.326240%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
ethics of concentration camp societies
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143041542.477944.172610%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
eugenics in atheocratic North Korea
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143149976.129405.152870%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
atheism-adherent Crick treatment suggestion could be solution to Social
Security funding problem
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142519644.526802.121080%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
Maser: "Darwin, one of Hitler's 'teachers'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143173595.248723.143420%40t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
cash for sub-persons' organs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143252326.064753.206420%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Put to use killed sub-persons' brains before their cremation.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143212186.992727.233750%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
in defense of 'social Darwinism'
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138804191.265126.90500%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Lifton, Robert Jay. 1986. _The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing
and the Psychology of Genocide_ (NY: Basic Books, Inc.,
Publishers), 561pp.
Some context:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/lifton/LiftonT270.shtml
On 270:
Inmates suffered from hunger, nonetheless, and
from the constant uncertainty about "What will it
be this time?" For they had absorbed the
Auschwitz principle that _anything is permitted_.
For an account of someone that illegitimately brought her non-secular
religion into the science laboratory, see
Dr. Marie L.
http://www.holocaust-history.org/lifton/LiftonT297.shtml
http://www.holocaust-history.org/lifton/LiftonT298.shtml
For mentions of some individuals that illegitimately brought their
non-secular religious views into German politics, see
theological disputes among German Protestants; Nazi concentration camps
for Catholics and Protestants
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129228612.176548.107730%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Churches resisted Hitler
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128561942.412167.145530%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
the 'tainted blood'/ genes argument
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140109204.980742.322890%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Gill, Anton. 1994. _An Honourable Defeat: A History of German
Resistance to Hitler, 1933-1945_ (NY: Henry Holt and Company), 293pp.
On 60:
Killing-centres disguised as sanatoria had been set
up for the disposal... of all those whom the Reich
deemed useless to society: the mentally disabled
and ill, epileptics, cripples, children with Down's
Syndrome, the senile, and others similarly afflicted.
my response to a version of "Is There a God? Strong Atheism's answer"
by Cheerful Charlie/ wbarwell
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142348788.613904.118720%40v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com
your proposed [1935 Snyder]"program of eugenics for your state"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142030661.505170.64230%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
1938 Shull: "Admixture of white blood is...related to
professional...success of the Negro."; Darwin; Huxley
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142222711.810377.220200%40j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141921380.312364.144060%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1940s Enlind: "the homosexual gorillas who now rule Germany"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141775732.192808.41610%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
_Kulturkampf_ Hitler
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132328969.527097.241300%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Huxley on The Aryan Question
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141703715.940457.279720%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
1860 atheism-adherent Huxley:
"the Almighty...him" = "Nature....she";
"Divine Government";
"deep sense of religion...compatible with the entire absence of
theology"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141353908.308726.161380%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Is atheism [MMC]"associated with mass murderers and the like"?; views
of atheism-adherent Singer
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141777876.224926.284110%40j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com
Robert Ley was an atheism-adherent
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141614380.247917.88330%40p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
Buchner, Ludwig. 1872. _Der Mensch und seine Stellung in der Natur_,
2nd edition (Leipzig), 147. Cited in
Weikart, Richard. 2004. _From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics,
Eugenics, and Racism in Germany_ (USA: Palgrave Macmillan), 312pp.,
191. About Weikart's book:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407030531.19253d93%40posting.google.com
The white or Caucasian human species is ordained
to take dominion of the earth, while the lowest
human races, like Americans, Australians, Alfuren,
Hottentots, and such others, are proceeding toward
their destruction with huge steps.
1874 Huxley: "unbelieving dogs who resist the Prophet of Evolution"
i.e. Haeckel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141181413.323360.165370%40p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
Is 'unter-personen' German for 'sub-persons'?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141269441.235631.242980%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
1966 Hardin: "Eugenics: A Controversial Possibility"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141234208.274511.6020%40t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com
in praise of eugenics and terminating defective human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138912784.946032.323570%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler & Darwin URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140576033.123225.228290%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Hitler: "Mendelian Law Of Division"; "artificially hinders nature's
process of selection"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140187785.048291.134400%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Stephen, Leslie. "Pantheism and Agnosticism" in
Darrow, Clarence and Wallace Rice. 1929. _Infidels and Heretics: An
Agnostic's Anthology_ (Boston, MA: The Stratford Company, Publishers),
293pp., 34. On 34:
We no longer doubt, it is true, whether there be a
God, for our God means all reality.... We keep the
old word [i.e. 'God']; we have altered the whole of its
contents.
California State University, Stanislaus
Edward Simon, probably originally in his Another Side to the Evolution
Problem, Jewish Press, Jan. 7, 1983, 248,
cited in
http://www.thedarwinpapers.com/oldsite/number12/Darwinpapers12HTML.htm#N_1_
I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution
brought on the holocaust; but I cannot deny that the
theory of evolution, and the atheism it engendered, led to
the moral climate that made a holocaust possible....
Sub-persons/ sub-humans are expendable.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1139372980.005787.15450%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
July 1947 indictment by Allies of SS Race and Settlement
Office leaders:
Kidnapping the children of foreign nationals in order to
select for Germanization those who were considered of
'racial value.'.... Encouraging and compelling abortions
on Eastern workers.... Preventing marriages and
hampering reproduction of enemy nationals.
Cited in
Black, Edwin. 2003. _War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's
Campaign to Create a Master Race_ (NY: Four Walls Eight Windows),
550pp., 405.
the terms deist, theist, and atheist
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1139329016.368142.172510%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"The Lion, the Witch, and the Great Insult"
http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001183.cfm
Mindreader Mitchell's erroneous characterization of Haeckel as a theist
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138716317.149372.152790%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Mindreader Mitchell's sloppy 'reasoning' regarding Saddam's views
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1137783927.156295.39350%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
is Darwin, or Hitler, today's most-famous Darwinist?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1138681336.761356.170100%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1136816955.742178.140650%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Dawkins also questions the fundamental tenets of
Christianity. On the idea of a spiritual creator, he says:
"The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most
unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous, and proud of it,
petty, vindictive, unjust, unforgiving, racist." The author of
"The Selfish Gene" then criticises Abraham, compares
Moses to Hitler and Saddam Hussein, before calling the
New Testament "St Paul's nasty, sado-masochistic
doctrine of atonement for original sin."
[1871/ 74 Darwin]"Europeans and Hindoos... belong to the same Aryan
stock.... Jews... belong to the Semitic stock"
[1872 Darwin]"Blushing is evident in all the Aryan nations of
Europe.... The
Semitic races blush freely, as might have been expected, from their
general similitude to the Aryans."
[Darwin]"Dr. Saviotti in... 1871... remarks that it more frequently
occurs in prognathous skulls, not of the Aryan race, than in others"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132942108.117285.130610%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1923 Holmes; parallel between Hitler and [Darwin]"the inferior vitality
of mulattoes is spoken of in a trustworthy work*(5) as a well-known
phenomenon"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1133927305.339964.266320%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Hooton, Earnest Albert. 1931. _Up From the Ape_ (NY: The MacMillan
Company), 626pp. Hooton was a professor of anthropology at Harvard
University, and a curator of somatology at the Peabody Museum of
Harvard University. On 525-6:
_The Red-blooded Nordics._ No one knows when the
peace of prehistoric Europe was first shattered by the
irruptions of raw-boned ruffians from the North. The
prehistoric distribution of the tall, fair-haired, blue-eyed,
ruddy-skinned, and long-headed Nordic race is much
more of a mystery than that of the Mediterraneans.
Linton, Ralph. 1936. _The Study of Man: An Introduction_ (NY:
Appleton-Century-Crofts, Inc.), 503pp. This is a "Student's Edition"
and part of The Century Social Science Series. Linton had a Ph.D. and
was a professor of anthropology at Columbia University. The book is
dedicated "_To_ THE NEXT CIVILIZATION." On 41:
Within the Caucasic stock at least five races are
commonly distinguished. The much advertised
Nordic race, which centers in northern Europe, has
the general characteristics of the stock plus long
heads, tall stature, and blond pigmentation.
Fasten, Nathan. 1941. _Introduction to General Zoology_ (Boston:
Ginn and Company), 742pp. Fasten had a Ph.D. and was professor and
head of the department of zoology at Oregon State College. On 632:
The persons belonging to the best
stock constitute the families with
superior qualities, embracing the
leaders in the nation.
Fasten alleges that there are "superior families" and "inferior
families."
According to a 1941 Fasten table, about
10% of the U.S. population was of the "Best stock,"
80% was of "Normal stock," and
10% was of "Bad stock."
Storer, Tracy I. 1943. _General Zoology_ (NY: McGraw-Hill Book
Company, Inc.), 1st edition, 798pp. Storer was a professor of zoology
at the University of California at Davis, and a zoologist in the
Agricultural Experiment Station. This is one of the McGraw-Hill
Publications in the Zoological Sciences, for which A. Franklin Shull
was Consulting Editor. On 165, from the "Eugenics" section:
If it were possible to control the matings between
human beings, the race could be improved by
eliminating certain serious defects and in many
other ways, but this is not practical.
the question of accountability favors conversion to atheism
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1137184204.545825.116810%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Darwin: big "supra-orbital ridges... characteristic of the lower races
of man"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1137443730.121635.125640%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1 of 3. Robin, do you consider this a 'malquotation'?:
....I have the firmest belief that the Divine
Government (if we may use such a phrase to
express the sum of the "customs of matter") is
wholly just. .... The ledger of the Almighty is strictly
kept, and every one of us has the balance of his
operations paid over to him at the end of every
minute of his existence.
BTW, "Almighty.... him" is a synonym for "Nature.... she." E.g.,
quoting again from that same document:
....that Nature is juster than we. She
takes into account....
2 of 3. Do you consider the author of that "Divine Government" remark:
a creationist?
a theist?
3 of 3. Suppose someone worships "Nature," i.e., "Nature" is that
person's
'god.'
Do you consider such a person:
a creationist?
a theist?
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[Hitler, and Darwin]"Nature... she," in
Darwin in the 6th edition of _Origin_ on [Darwin]"survival of the
fittest" and the [Darwin]"struggle for life"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132161340.121874.63970%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
a claim: Hitler was a Christian
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1131389424.486586.51840%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Linton, Ralph. 1936. _The Study of Man: An Introduction_ (NY:
Appleton-Century-Crofts, Inc.), 503pp. This is a "Student's Edition"
and part of The Century Social Science Series. Linton had a Ph.D. and
was a professor of anthropology at Columbia University. The book is
dedicated "_To_ THE NEXT CIVILIZATION." On 41:
Within the Caucasic stock at least five races are
commonly distinguished. The much advertised
Nordic race, which centers in northern Europe, has
the general characteristics of the stock plus long
heads, tall stature, and blond pigmentation.
Hooton, Earnest Albert. 1931. _Up From the Ape_ (NY: The MacMillan
Company), 626pp. Hooton was a professor of anthropology at Harvard
University, and a curator of somatology at the Peabody Museum of
Harvard University. On 525-6:
_The Red-blooded Nordics._ No one knows when the
peace of prehistoric Europe was first shattered by the
irruptions of raw-boned ruffians from the North. The
prehistoric distribution of the tall, fair-haired, blue-eyed,
ruddy-skinned, and long-headed Nordic race is much
more of a mystery than that of the Mediterraneans.
Darwin: "the finest young men are.... exposed to early death during
war.... feebler men... are left at home"
Http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136999331.757403.75700%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Malthusian thinking in remarks by Hitler
Http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1137178715.710123.107820%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Valhalla vs. heaven vs. hell vs. wormfood for Hitler
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1137080516.130798.107530%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
relation between the 'faith' & actions of an alleged-'Christian'
Http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136832861.635292.180700%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
exercise #2: parallels between Hitler and [Darwin]"fertile land capable
of supporting numerous happy homes"?
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1137172777.820169.233390%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1853 Haeckel: "slashed his Jewish face about handsomely"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136994529.626798.131080%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin: "The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an
operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his
patient...."
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136917904.909420.245140%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Darwin: "man has ultimately become superior to woman"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136580451.809595.42990%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1874 Darwin: "mongrel population of Negroes and Portuguese....
population of mingled Polynesian and English blood....
population of Polynesians and Negritos crossed in all degrees....
a much crossed race of Portuguese and Indians, with a mixture of the
blood of other races"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136494819.673310.232510%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1883 Darwin: "When two races, both low in the scale, are crossed the
progeny seems to be eminently bad."
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136399794.077073.47030%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Hitler and an Ethical Culture person on 'God'
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1136317045.783426.125490%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Davies, National Academy of Sciences, Dawkins, Feynman
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990511230015.1040149B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
agree with Hitler about who 'Jews' are?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1136226458.258397.34490%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Darwin: "genius... tends to be inherited... insanity and deteriorated
mental powers... run in families"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135964069.481127.220330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
agreement between Al Qaeda's Zawahri and Democrats
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134066097.207355.11620%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Kill/ death to [Darwin]"imbecile, maimed, and other useless members of
society"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135791290.639930.285730%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
threatened and actual use of force by atheism-adherents
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135396265.419462.311690%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin: "The remarkable success of the English as colonists, compared
to other European nations, has been ascribed to their 'daring and
persistent energy'; a result which is well illustrated by comparing the
progress of the Canadians of English and French extraction...."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135653955.843480.126470%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin: "the New Zealander... compares his future fate with that of the
native rat now almost exterminated by the European rat"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135178729.788016.144250%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Hitler & Darwin on
[Hitler & Darwin]"master[s]"
over
[Darwin]"subjugated... men"
having
[Darwin]"utility to their masters"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135100164.057260.78490%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
this Darwin correct as of: 1888? 1944?: "man differs widely from any
strictly domesticated animal; for his breeding has never long been
controlled, either by methodical or unconscious selection"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134792419.066594.291390%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Darwin: [Greg]"the careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies
like rabbits"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135088486.532238.194930%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on correlation between human skin colour and odour
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135051524.767332.265230%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
your freethought/ atheism conversion experience?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135012135.008700.163480%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on selection of Spartan children
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
socialism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134062602.861754.124160%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Hitler; Darwin: "the evil which the Catholic Church has thus effected
is incalculable"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134662154.179171.232450%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin praise for Rolle, T.H. Huxley, Buchner, & Haeckel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134766736.390460.205460%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Darwin on certain "distinct races" of humans being "distinct species"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134742746.958656.6900%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Matt, do you consider General Trotha a Darwinist?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134570961.050365.219870%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
1959 Garrett Hardin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134409165.656045.203660%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
October 2003 Mindreader Mitchell, September 2004 Abner J. Mintz,
March 2001 Paul J. Gans
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132706171.902510.319750%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
an exercise: parallels between 1871 Darwin & 1924/5 Hitler?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1134448996.907734.300780%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
4 more Hitler-Darwin parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135092414.972723.104980%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1923 Holmes; parallel between Hitler and [Darwin]"the inferior vitality
of mulattoes is spoken of in a trustworthy work*(5) as a well-known
phenomenon"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1133927305.339964.266320%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
1993 Stephanie Forrest on genetic algorithms
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132069993.082818.203300%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Hitler's human breeding plan using [1871 Darwin]"careful selection" +
mutations
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1124684179.251743.95950%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1124731489.829229.220700%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on [1871 Darwin]"careful selection" in connection with the
breeding of humans;
1924/5 Hitler & 1871 Darwin on heterogeneous & homogeneous peoples
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133977762.788382.143030%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
August 2005 Arnold Beichman on "Fascism fantasies"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1125332402.432769.142080%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
John Gibson's 2005 _The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban
the Sacred Christian Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought_
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595230165/qid=1133883431/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-9159734-8906554?n=507846&s=books&v=glance
Merry Winter Solstice!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134184020.915479.145130%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1918 Henry Adams on Quotemining and Darwinianity in 1867-8
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133804198.957715.189070%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
BTW, for my Canadian friends, another photo in Svoray's book has in its
caption:
Hitler birthday poster displayed by....
Poster was printed in Toronto, a source for much
neo-Nazi material.
freethinker/ atheist neo-Nazis
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133809875.498392.214750%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Haeckel was a freethinker/ atheist
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133546258.818109.194350%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132328969.527097.241300%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Haeckel; Haeckel was an atheism-adherent
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132328969.527097.241300%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Sagan, Carl. 1980. _Cosmos_ (NY: Random House), 365pp. Chapter
1's first line:
THE COSMOS IS ALL THAT IS OR EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE.
Compare
Revelation 1: 8 (King James Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation%201;&version=9;
I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and
which is to come, the Almighty.
See also Revelation 1: 4.
Democrat Sex Harassment & Coverup Guidelines; Willey; Jones; Lewinsky
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990129001746.1045886D-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
1916/ 1922 Nordau; infanticide, slavery, and genocide
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132847220.475151.206790%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Reagan's allegation that there exists
some [Reagan]"natural law," some [Reagan]"higher law of morality."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132849740.419205.114320%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1994 "Jews and the Christian Right"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141413912.024904.174260%40p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
Darwin, T.H. Huxley, Haeckel, Trotha, Goebbels, Hitler, Marx, O'Hair
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133186735.613068.108090%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
[1871/ 74 Darwin]"Europeans and Hindoos... belong to the same Aryan
stock.... Jews... belong to the Semitic stock"
[1872 Darwin]"Blushing is evident in all the Aryan nations of
Europe.... The
Semitic races blush freely, as might have been expected, from their
general similitude to the Aryans."
[Darwin]"Dr. Saviotti in... 1871... remarks that it more frequently
occurs in prognathous skulls, not of the Aryan race, than in others"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132942108.117285.130610%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Is infanticide "evil"?; Reagan; Nordau
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1131387293.922571.147570%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Do you agree with this 1922 Max Nordau?:
==
What are 5 actions you consider evil/ wrong/ bad/
immoral?
Upon what basis/ grounds do you consider those 5 actions
evil/ wrong/ bad/ immoral?
The atheism-adherent and Princeton bioethicist Peter Singer has no
problem with infanticide, bestiality, or killing severely-mentally
disabled individuals.
Do you think infanticide is evil/ wrong?
Do you think bestiality is evil/ wrong?
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
Mindreader Mitchell on 2000/06/09: "it turns out that Haeckel... was a
theist"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132777418.869604.128700%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Haeckel on antisemitism
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132770569.112996.213900%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
French persons that rejected the theory of NS
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1129861996.983559.40030%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
A Refutation of Socialism Using Socialism
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132594096.798616.234250%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
prominent Jews that are bailers/ not-drillers?
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131677107.289542.229200%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Jesus on prayer
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1129821941.584766.101070%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Rabbi Lapin's "In Defense of Christian Conservatives"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131748480.428356.7430%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Marr, Lagarde and Langbehn, Haeckel,
Plate, Darwin, Goebbels, Marx, O'Hair
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132194665.884388.158410%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
[Hitler, and Darwin]"Nature... she" in
Darwin in the 6th edition of _Origin_ on [Darwin]"survival of the
fittest" and the [Darwin]"struggle for life"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132161340.121874.63970%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
atheocratic North Korea's slave trade
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131559540.282445.90700%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
a claim: Hitler was a Christian
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1131389424.486586.51840%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Rabbi Lapin on "ethnic Jews whose faith is... Secular Fundamentalism...
drilling holes... in the boat of our culture"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1130966841.647594.258020%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
who are some prominent secularists that have ancestors that were
descendants of Abraham?
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131398384.542240.261050%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
secular leftist individuals having Jewish ancestors
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1129867015.194883.157910%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
what here is correct? incorrect?
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131398384.542240.261050%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Is infanticide or breeding humans "evil"?
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1131383831.179267.205750%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler, Adolf, during meal times to his innermost circle plus the
occasional reliable guest, e.g. Himmler, as prepared by Hitler's
secretary Martin Bormann. 1953. _Hitler's Secret Conversations:
1941-1944_, translated by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, with an
introductory essay "The Mind of Adolf Hitler" by H.R. Trevor-Roper (NY:
Farrar, Straus and Young), 597pp.
On 57, from the entry for the evening of 17 October 1941:
The precept that it's men's duty to love one another is
theory-- and the Christians are the last to practise it!
A negro baby who has the misfortune to
die before a missionary gets his clutches on him, goes
to Hell! If that were true, one might well lament that
sorrowful destiny: to have lived only three years, and
to burn for all eternity with Lucifer!
agree with any of this Haeckel?
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1130438405.014557.49820%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin, Charles. 1859. _On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural
Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for
Life_ (London: John Murray), 513pp
Barton, Dennis. 2003, 2 November 2004. "The Anti-Christian Roots of
Nazism"
http://www.church-in-history.org/pages/booklets/roots(n)-1.htm
http://www.church-in-history.org/pages/booklets/roots(n)-2.htm
Belief in spontaneous generation, blindwatchmaking, and mental
spoon-bending is scientific.
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401291120.41a6d843%40posting.google.com
ACLU support of Nazis' right to march
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=1129518918.436603.261970%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Nat Hentoff's "Lying about Terri Schiavo"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129607287.267946.272510%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
ID as a metaphysical research program
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129317540.779352.231140%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
charlie
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129306797.953462.218610%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Mr. Kahana and another
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128911062.573907.279240%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
_The Myth of Hitler's Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews from the
Nazis_ by David G. Dalin
http://www.regnery.com/books/mythhitler.html
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895260344/102-3856728-7232115?v=glance
http://www.the-tidings.com/2005/1007/difference.htm
Hitler's debt to American eugenicists
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/HitlerDebtToAmerica.html
Hitler embraced Darwinian natural selection
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129143372.689763.127020%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Williams on sex and 'evolution'
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129126616.881002.204260%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Sanger: segregate the anti-social and feebleminded
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128629229.811428.173830%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
who is a "socialist"?; some atheism- adherents' development and use of
brutal terror tactics
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128703737.434501.234400%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler thought he had Jewish ancestors.
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128621261.103530.184110%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
1933 H.J. Muller: "Hitler is said to have studied the Baur Fischer
Lenz
book [_Human Heredity_] very seriously, and to have been won over to
it"
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1127262825.691025.245670%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Hitler, Adolf. 1925, 1927, 1943, 1971. _Mein Kampf_, translation by
Ralph Manheim of the 1st edition of _Mein Kampf_ (Boston and NY:
Houghton Mifflin Company, A Mariner Book), 694pp.
ACLU victory over Yeshiva University
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128529347.082645.193140%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
the American eugenics movement, H.G. Wells
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128523609.669113.175570%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Nazi mob beats up Lutheran Pastor Julius von Jan for denouncing 10
November 1938 Kristallnacht
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128365980.250455.304140%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
[MC]"What was the response of German Lutheran and Catholic churches to
Krystalnacht, compared to their reaction a year latter to the mass
murder of mentally ill and retarded Germans a year later?"
[df]"I don't know. What?"
[MC]"They didn't lift a finger over Krystalnacht, and the persecution
of Jews in general."
Ref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7iake09k1mah7ufcb9fkq4t385htsoei92%404ax.com
Do you think Stalin and his inner circle were religious?
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128350327.449557.314130%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler was an adherent of atheism and engaged in homosexual activity
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129143372.689763.127020%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128308336.450775.177530%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
2002 Allen Barra review of Machtan's _The Hidden Hitler_
http://www.salon.com/books/review/2002/01/14/machtan/
Quote Archive of 1184 Quotes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1126836980.382631.17030%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
exploring "theistic evolution"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127923423.347138.83320%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
jail those that pray to a non-secular god
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127745432.742149.20950%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
ACLU requests jail for Tangipahoa school officials
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127745432.742149.20950%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
caging homophobic pastors
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127529658.506206.300210%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
At one point, John was trying to have his plonk and eat it too:
John's erroneous beliefs can't hide.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127704575.828237.280060%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Don't make me laugh.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127877013.477499.48130%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
August 2005 John Wilkins:
[Snip David's self-referential links and other crap.
I know arguing with this guy is like attacking a
stone with wet tissue paper, but There Are Lurkers]
Ref:
1990 Lynn Margulis
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125116281.603256.38930%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
IDiotic creationuts
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127338201.763730.154090%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
the courts on the secular religion of secular humanism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127528146.999596.314660%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Meaning of "evolution"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-386md9F5lsv5cU1%40individual.net
who said, and do you agree with, this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127407846.034955.3200%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
2004 Kater
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1126752603.953619.262940%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Himmler, a former chicken farmer..., was ruled by very
strong beliefs regarding the application of breeding
theories to humans-- by way of positive selection for the
"Aryans" and negative selection for their natural enemies,
the Slavs, Gypsies, and Jews.
Playing off evolutionists in newsgroups is fun.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0404161932.532699ca%40posting.google.com
Dawkins
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/dawkins_21_3.html
It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who
claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant,
stupid or insane (or wicked, but I'd rather not consider
that).
Rape in New Orleans
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125803542.293791.168380%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Terri Schindler Schiavo story with villains, victims, and heroes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115741978.820440.50060%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Yahya and Koster on the use of fear and force
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407030811.4e8cd1bd%40posting.google.com
Haeckel re: Jesus; Fest on "Social Darwinism in Hitler's thought"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125598958.059080.62950%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Should a person fear being judged by a utterly-holy Judge for his or
her actions?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125418165.686474.220010%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
What matters is what elite judges having a secular religion say.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3aenpiF69fl4rU1%40individual.net
1990 Lynn Margulis
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125116281.603256.38930%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Gange on information content; Wigner contra materialism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1124167154.817991.159730%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
genetic code, coding falsely appears to be code-programmer workproduct;
1973 Dobzhansky
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1123647563.631181.310000%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1985 Cairns-Smith: "Present-day organisms are manifestly pieces of
'high technology', and what is more seem to be necessarily so."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1123558517.582123.223890%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Meaning of "Christian"?
Do you think it's possible for someone to both
a) aggressively pursue homosexual activity,
while at the same time
b) be a follower of Jesus Christ and seek to follow the commands in the
Bible's New Testament?
Goebbels: "Goering... addressed a sharp letter to Bishops Galen... and
Berning"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1124768891.979046.93770%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
A Good Tautology is Hard to Avoid
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/80d1ba07087d43b5?
Draft 2 of a chronology of Darwinian thought and the march to the Final
Solution
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1122434358.640904.162640%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
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A Chronology
Dawkins, Richard. 1989. _The Selfish Gene_ (NY: Oxford University
Press), 352pp. On 2:
....I think 'nature red in tooth and claw' sums up our modern
understanding of natural selection admirably.
Darwin, Charles. 1859. _On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural
Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for
Life_ (London: John Murray), 513pp.
1859 Darwin vs. the Judeo-Christian conception of the unity of man
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120016676.023811.113660%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1989 Koster: "it was Christianity that put an end to slavery around
the globe"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406281819.5f06fed5%40posting.google.com
1863 Darwinist ethnologist Oscar Peschel:
The Negro is far removed from the European and close to
the ape through its small build, through the relatively
small breadth of its skull, through its relatively long upper
limbs, and further the relatively short length of the
thigh.... Also the Negro is more animal, in that it gives
off a disgusting odor, distorts its face in grimaces, and its
voice has a harsh, grating tone.
Cited in
Weikart, Richard. 2004. _From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics,
Eugenics, and Racism in Germany_ (USA: Palgrave Macmillan), 312pp.,
112. About Weikart's book:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407030531.19253d93%40posting.google.com
1866 Rolle and 1941 Hitler parallel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118762703.384545.317610%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1868 Haeckel and 1941 Hitler parallel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118920740.543349.176440%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinist atheists/ materialists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net
1871 Darwin: [CD]"the civilised races of man"-- e.g. [CD]"the
Caucasian"-- [CD]"will almost certainly exterminate and replace
throughout the world the savage races"-- e.g. [CD]"the negro or
Australian," as in Australian aborigine-- with the end result being
[CD]"man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, than the Caucasian"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407060404.711490be%40posting.google.com
[Viereck]"Already in the 1880s Professor Paul de Lagarde was rejecting
much of Christianity as Jewish."
Lagarde coined [Lagarde]"the Master Volk," wrote the 2-volume 1878-81
_Deutsche Schriften_/ _German Essays_; an 1886 version was a
best-seller.[Viereck, 169, Weiss, 137]
Lagarde considered Jews a [Lagarde]"bacillus" and [Lagarde]"carriers of
decay" that [Lagarde]"pollute every national culture."
Lagarde called for the destruction of [Lagarde]"usurious vermin" i.e.
the Jews, who he considered a [Lagarde]"poison... and must be treated
as such," observing, [Lagarde]"with trichinae and bacilli one does not
negotiate" and [Lagarde]"they are exterminated as quickly and
thoroughly as possible."
1943 Goebbels: a "process of selection between the strong and the
weak"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120450591.444214.186670%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Goebbels diary entry for 13 May 1943
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120450591.444214.186670%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
One might well ask why are there any Jews in the world order?
That would be exactly like asking why are there potato bugs?
Nature is dominated by the law of struggle. There will always
be parasites who will spur this struggle on and intensify the
process of selection between the strong and the weak. The
principle of struggle dominates also in human life. One must
merely know the laws of this struggle to be able to face it. ....
In nature life always takes measures against parasites; in the life
of nations that is not always the case. From this fact the Jewish
peril actually stems. There is therefore no other recourse left
for modern nations except to exterminate the Jew....
....we are forever members of the Aryan race. .... Aboriginal
man, the Fuehrer believes, did not know the lie....
The nations that have been the first to see through the Jew and
have been the first to fight him are going to take his place in the
domination of the world.
[Lagarde]"The sooner they [the Slavs] perish the better it will be for
us and them."
2004 Kater
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1126752603.953619.262940%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Himmler, a former chicken farmer..., was ruled by very
strong beliefs regarding the application of breeding
theories to humans-- by way of positive selection for the
"Aryans" and negative selection for their natural enemies,
the Slavs, Gypsies, and Jews.
Viereck, Peter. 1941, 1961, 1965. _Metapolitics: The Roots of the
Nazi Mind_ (NY: Capricorn Books), 371pp., 168-9.
Weiss, John. 1996. _Ideology of Death: Why the Holocaust Happened in
Germany_ (Chicago: Ivan R. Dee), 427pp., in the chapter
"Anti-Semitism, Academics, and Intellectuals, 1890-1914," 137-8.
The blond, good-looking, and athletic Haeckel visited 'god'
i.e. Darwin twice.[Shipman, 76-77]
Shipman, Pat. 1994. _The Evolution of Racism: Human Differences and
the Use and Abuse of Science_ (NY: Simon & Schuster), 318pp. On 95:
Haeckel identified Aryans with the true Germans, with
the _Volk_ of Germany imbued with power and
intrinsic goodness and mystically tied to their holy
German landscape.
1900
Haeckel, Ernst. 1900. _The Riddle of the Universe: At the
Close of the Nineteenth Century_, translated by Joseph
McCabe. (NY: Harper & Brothers Publishers), 391pp. On 328:
....on familiar principles of science, we put aside the
notion of supernatural conception through an
"overshadowing of the Most High" as a pure myth....
The statement of the apocryphal gospels, that the
Roman officer, Pandera, was the true father of
Christ, seems all the more credible when we make a
careful anthropological study of the personality of
Christ. He is generally regarded as purely Jewish.
Yet the characteristics which distinguish his high
and noble personality, and which give a distinct
impress to his religion, are certainly not Semitical;
they are rather features of the higher Arian race,
and especially of its noblest branch, the Hellenes.
Haeckel on murdering the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian, atheistic a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
2001 Abraham Foxman: Hitler was a big liar
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1128010617.235272.105530%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler encounters the T0E as a child: A Victory for Atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118403178.860854.170600%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Stalin encounters the T0E in seminary: A Victory for Atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118511187.489582.241590%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's secular religion
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120837574.592972.268980%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
May 2003 Timothy Ryback on "Hitler's Forgotten Library"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/895696/posts
1941 Hitler & 2003 Dawkins observation re: conflicting religions
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118932846.333778.56450%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1943 Goebbels & Hitler agree on "the insanity of the Christian doctrine
of redemption"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120260213.363834.164990%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Hitler opposed Christianity
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1117657689.616680.167840%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
July 1945: "The Nazi Master Plan: The Persecution of the Christian
Churches"
http://www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-religion/nuremberg/nurinst1.htm
the atheism-adherent Hitler's actions are quite understandable
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127506418.014874.230840%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Churches resisted Hitler
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128561942.412167.145530%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
theological disputes among German Protestants; Nazi concentration camps
for Catholics and Protestants
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129228612.176548.107730%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
the atheism-adherent Hitler's actions are quite understandable
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127506418.014874.230840%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1939 Martha Dodd: Ernst Rohm rumored to be Hitler's better half
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127447560.529159.263760%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1978 Graber: "homosexuality appears to have been widespread in several
volunteer [Freikorps] units"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1126151010.843839.115080%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1934 Ebermayer: "Hess... was for many years the Fuhrer's partner"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121399969.441145.63680%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
a spiritual void among especially-influential Germans
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118976003.052269.211420%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Proctor, Robert N. 1988. _Racial Hygiene: Medicine under the Nazis_
(Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press), 414pp. On 6:
The published record of the German medical profession
makes it clear that many intellectuals cooperated fully in
Nazi racial programs, and that many of the social and
intellectual foundations for these programs were laid long
before the rise of Hitler to power. What I want to argue in
addition to this, however (and here I shall be drawing
upon a growing body of recent German scholarship on
this question) is that biomedical scientists played an
active, even leading role in the initiation, administration,
and execution of Nazi racial programs.
2004 Richard Weikart: "physicians... were committed to a racist
eugenics ideology that the Nazis favored"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407120310.7d3f3929%40posting.google.com
Barzun, Jacques. 1941. _Darwin, Marx, Wagner: Critique of a Heritage_
(Boston: Little, Brown and Company), 420pp., in the chapter "The Uses
of Darwinism," 100-102, 106, 109. On 100-101:
No one who has not waded through some sizeable
part of the literature of the period 1870-1914 has any
conception of the extent to which it is one long call for blood,
nor of the variety of parties, classes, nations, and races whose
blood was separately and contradictorily clamored for
by the enlightened [sic] citizens of the ancient
civilization of Europe. .... No wonder Bismark had a
hard time reining in the impetuosity of his officers, fed
as they were on Treitschke, Haeckel, Ratzenhofer,
Gumplowicz, Ammon, and other "Social Darwinists."
Gould, Stephen Jay. 1991. _Bully for Brontosaurus: Reflections in
Natural History_ (New York: W.W. Norton & Company), 540pp. On 421-2,
428:
First, he [William Jennings Bryan] learned that the
martial view of Darwinism had been invoked by most
German intellectuals and military leaders as a
justification for war and future domination. .... But
when he [Bryan] said that Darwinism had been widely
protrayed [sic] as a defense of war, domination, and
domestic exploitation, he was right.
undated Theodor Fritsch-- Weikart characterizes Fritsch as [Weikart on
55]"a highly influential anti-Semitic publicist":
Morality and ethics arise from the law of preservation of
the species, of the race. Whatever insures the future of
the species, whatever is suited to raise the species to an
ever higher level of physical and mental perfection, that is
moral.
Cited in Weikart, 55.
early 1930s Hitler: "the process of selection can be accelerated by
political means"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121831594.290068.147940%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
If you were in 1938 Nazi Germany, would you have opposed or supported
the killing of Baby Knauer?
From
1997 Wesley Smith on Germany's slippery slope slide from devaluing
some human life to a little euthanasia/ killing to mass killings
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
That case came to their
attention in late 1938. A baby had been born with birth
defects: Baby Knauer was blind and had a leg and part of
an arm missing. The parents were distraught and,
accepting the general value system of their time, were
deeply ashamed to have brought a useless eater into the
world. They wrote requesting permission to have their
child "put to sleep." Hitler was quite interested in the
case and sent one of his personal physicians, Karl
Rudolph Brandt, to investigate. Brandt's instructions
from the Fuhrer were to verify the facts of the baby's
condition and, if true, to assure the child's doctors and
her parents that if she was killed, no one would face
punishment or liability. Brandt was then to witness the
euthanasia and report back to Hitler. The doctors in the
case who met with Brandt agreed that there was "no
justification for keeping the child alive," and Baby
Knauer soon became one of the first victims of the
Holocaust.^27
1939
Wesley Smith in his 1997 _Forced Exit: The Slippery Slope from
Assisted Suicide to Legalized Murder_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
In early 1939, children born with birth defects or with
congenital diseases began to be killed under the
euthanasia program. These unfortunate children were
admitted to medical clinics by their doctors, where they
would be euthanized. Most of these children were
voluntarily turned over to medical authorities by their
own parents; some (but certainly not all) knew, or at least
suspected, that their disabled children were being sent to
their deaths. New reporting rules made it mandatory for
midwives and doctors to notify authorities when a baby
was born with birth defects. Once the referees
determined that the children were eligible for euthanasia,
they were killed either by intentional starvation or an
overdose of a drug, most typically a sedative called
Luminal. The euphemism of choice for this butchery was
"treatment."
It wasn't long before the list of those eligible to be killed
expanded.
Note the "killed either by intentional starvation or an overdose of a
drug."
1940 Nazi film "All Life is Struggle" embraced Darwinian natural
selection
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407042043.1c2ccf1f%40posting.google.com
1941 Hitler: law of selection justifies incessant struggle/ war
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118678103.823344.131410%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1942 Eichmann: "possible final remnant... is the product of natural
selection," 1942 Heydrich
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1122008128.957294.314360%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
excerpts from a 1942 Nazi biology textbook for the middle school
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/textbk01.htm
Paul Johnson: Hitler practiced social engineering
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407070355.27039a45%40posting.google.com
the atheism-adherents Watson and Crick
From
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
In May 1973, James D. Watson, the Nobel Prize
laureate who discovered the double helix of DNA,
granted an interview to _Prism_ magazine, then a
publication of the American Medical Association.
_Time_ later reported the interview to the general
public, quoting Watson as having said,
If a child were not declared alive until three days
after birth, then all parents could be allowed the
choice only a few are given under the present
system. The doctor could allow the child to die
if the parents so choose and save a lot of misery
and suffering. I believe this view is the only
rational, compassionate attitude to have.
In January 1978, Francis Crick, also a Nobel
laureate, was quoted in the _Pacific News Service_
as saying,
. . . no newborn infant should be declared human
until it has passed certain tests regarding its
genetic endowment and that if it fails these tests
it forfeits the right to live.
Dawkins, Richard. 1989. _The Selfish Gene_ (NY: Oxford University
Press), 352pp. On 2:
....I think 'nature red in tooth and claw' sums up our modern
understanding of natural selection admirably.
1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net
any atheism-adherents against Terri Schindler Schiavo's being starved
to death?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3adrlvF69l60hU1%40individual.net
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"113 Kurds Are Found In Mass Grave: Hussein Victims Almost All Women,
Children"
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/7992007d0af62942?
any atheists against Terri Schindler Schiavo's being starved to death?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3adrlvF69l60hU1%40individual.net
Roehm and Hitler were homosexuals
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/34037e05f2968d07?
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/6ee3b67fcea96654?
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/707b8bf0a5d35371?
2004 Don Feder
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/3e1e6d8dfe1e67ec?
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness
brochure "Are We Ready for This?"
http://www.uupa.org/AreWeReady.htm
godlessness in trouble: science, 'frauds' trigger decline in atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38r8v3F5qkkv1U1%40individual.net
The 1919 experiment was ambiguous.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.970808020249.13466K-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Note: for any of the documents posted, you can do a control-f/ "find"
and locate desired text further down in the message.
Nifty links
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aka
http://tinyurl.com/5pd28
Saddam URLs
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1993 Mark Ludwig
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a19gpF65ij6fU3%40individual.net
computer simulations illustrate intelligent design, at the bottom of
replies to Larry Moran posts
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39lhabF61ut8sU1%40individual.net
NRLC%40nrlc.org
Starvation of Terri like in Nazi Germany
Nazi Germany: from euthanizing disabled to mass killing
Starvation in Nazi Germany & of Terri Schiavo
Terri Schindler Schiavo was intentionally starved to death. Germany
went down this road before:
Wesley Smith in his 1997 _Forced Exit: The Slippery Slope from
Assisted Suicide to Legalized Murder_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
In early 1939, children born with birth defects or with
congenital diseases began to be killed under the
euthanasia program. These unfortunate children were
admitted to medical clinics by their doctors, where they
would be euthanized. Most of these children were
voluntarily turned over to medical authorities by their
own parents; some (but certainly not all) knew, or at least
suspected, that their disabled children were being sent to
their deaths. New reporting rules made it mandatory for
midwives and doctors to notify authorities when a baby
was born with birth defects. Once the referees
determined that the children were eligible for euthanasia,
they were killed either by intentional starvation or an
overdose of a drug, most typically a sedative called
Luminal. The euphemism of choice for this butchery was
"treatment."
It wasn't long before the list of those eligible to be killed
expanded.
Note the "killed either by intentional starvation or an overdose of a
drug."
[Smith]"These ideas later came to haunt Hoche; he would turn against
the German euthanasia program-- even though much of its rationale
derived from his own writings-- after one of his relatives became a
victim."
Of the people currently arguing for euthanasia, and currently arguing
for Terri Schindler Schiavo to continue being starved to death, how
many are going to be killed/ 'euthanized' when they become elderly?
How many of those currently arguing for euthanasia will have in future
years relatives of theirs being killed/ 'euthanized'?
Much more Wesley Smith is in
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
Control - f/ "find" for:
Do you think that the more one looks at atheists, particularly
hard-core
militantly-godless types:
the better atheism looks?
the worse atheism looks?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a19amF65ij6fU2%40individual.net
[Wolfe in _The New Republic_]"She [O'Hair] was dictatorial,
irresponsible, racist, overbearing, corrupt, anti-Semitic, homophobic,
anti-Catholic, and at times criminal. .... this crudely embarrassing
atheist [i.e. O'Hair]"
[O'Hair to her father]"the Jews in big business are running this
country into the ground."
[O'Hair to her son William, after slapping him hard in the
face]"Listen, kid, the United States of America is nothing more than a
fascist slave labor camp run by a handful of Jew bankers in New York
City."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39rvm4F63q0jrU1%40individual.net
[Gofreemind]"For newer atheists, Madalyn was anything but heroic. Her
rude, obnoxious public displays were an embarrassment."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0503090734.55fbdce3%40posting.google.com
replies to Larry Moran posts:
Larry's shifting conceptions of "species," "speciation," and
"evolution"
1972 and 1977 Gould and Eldredge on punk-eek and the fossil record
1998 Dawkins observation that certain religious claims are either
correct or incorrect
1977, 1980, and 1982 Gould the saltationist
1941 Jacques Barzun on Darwin's hedging and self-contradiction
1988 A. Lima-de-Faria on the phlogiston-like contradictory nature of
"selection"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39lhabF61ut8sU1%40individual.net
1988 Lima-de-Faria
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1130159020.075563.15930%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
2000 Michael Ruse on Gould's "being a bit of a phoney" concerning
religion
punk-eek on stasis
in passim: the allegation that the imperfect fossil record tells lies
computer simulations illustrate intelligent design
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39lhabF61ut8sU1%40individual.net
1983 Simpson on quantum evolution
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410130414.284a56ed%40posting.google.com
Intelligence isn't needed to account for this "engine"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0503101041.2bfdea1a%40posting.google.com
Ludwig on computer viruses
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980207214705.12692A-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Vitz on his socialization in school
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-393h24F5qte75U1%40individual.net
Control - f/ "find" for: clay
Batch of replies to John Wilkins
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-389cg9F5lbshpU1%40individual.net
1960 Madalyn Murray O'Hair to her son William
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0503051050.3208401b%40posting.google.com
Al Gore; link to Byrd (D-WV) speech
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0503031422.18277f4e%40posting.google.com
[1986. Yockey]""those who believe.... the galaxy is pullulating with
civilizations"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0404100938.e7c05f7%40posting.google.com
godlessness in trouble
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38r8v3F5qkkv1U1%40individual.net
2004 Alister McGrath: "The rise of militant Islam in Afghanistan was
the direct outcome of the Soviet invasion of that nation in 1979, and
its clumsy attempts to support an atheist regime."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36d74dF51tdmoU1%40individual.net
Robert Griffiths
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37ekfeF5cmdhjU1%40individual.net
Einstein: physics was designed
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37f67dF59po8jU1%40individual.net
a t.o. philosopher on 'function' and 'purpose' in biology
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37c9m5F59n45nU1%40individual.net
Habermas interview with Flew
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-336m89F3u087fU1%40individual.net
1983 Bruce Alberts; Haeckel's fraudulent embryo depictions; 1956
Goldschmidt
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38m3vrF5o7bk2U1%40individual.net
Darwin only talks to and through his prophets.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37f8trF5cdutnU1%40individual.net
Reply to the Larry Moran post that John nominated as a POTM
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38hcs9F5ovk6pU1%40individual.net
_Reason_ article with the upshot of: Release the nonviolent drug
offenders
http://www.reason.com/9908/fe.js.prison.html
a cost-effect trade-off
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0411220549.41c1db87%40posting.google.com
What is wrong in this Newton?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=111tdsaha9hq7d1%40corp.supernews.com
Newton was a creationist regarding biology.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3877igF5kk9siU2%40individual.net
Ancestor, or sharer of a common ancestor?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401121821.675a5dce%40posting.google.com
Similarities & Common Descent
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401011520.5d1f4671%40posting.google.com
questions for John W. regarding Bell
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401182159.641ac183%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401201054.28ea2342%40posting.google.com
Meaning of "evolution" and "species"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-386md9F5lsv5cU1%40individual.net
Biology has the appearance of having been designed by intelligence.
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1135748125.229401.252690%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
Sandage won the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences' 1991 Crafoord Prize
(astronomy's "Nobel").
Ref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.980830000755.10441B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
fabled primordial soup never existed
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37mt00F5fb7kmU1%40individual.net
1962 Ehrlich and Holm:
Few nonevolutionists realize that the term
_adaptation_ is one of the least understood
and most misused in population biology.
Cite in
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IDiots' failure to acknowledge the facts is due to
their emotionally-held religious convictions.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406261739.60e1f6fd%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0408221106.6e95a488%40posting.google.com
Mayr URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36l297F52q8rcU1%40individual.net
Ford caught in fraud!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37eet3F5ecn1tU1%40individual.net
How does a seeingwatchmakingist account for the origin of
the recorded-in-DNA/ genetic information within:
a human? a bacterium? the first biological lifeform?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-348nj6F47evohU1%40individual.net
mutation URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37elv4F5260vbU1%40individual.net
One literature search for "mutation"; mutation URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37elv4F5260vbU1%40individual.net
the Koran on hell; link to
"Christianity" is not monolithic when it comes to the nature of hell.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3720ncF56q00hU1%40individual.net
Have Humphrey, Dwyer, Dennett, and Dawkins gone around [LM]"behaving
like idiots"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36ptr0F53hkerU1%40individual.net
Hsu "almost tempted to join my colleague, Paul Feyerabend"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35lfj3F4ojm7rU1%40individual.net
Darwin's bible; Hsu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a18k3F66sgjpU1%40individual.net
Mivart's _On The Genesis of Species_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0411191923.147109da%40posting.google.com
Einstein: physics was designed
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37f67dF59po8jU1%40individual.net
have Maff, Humphrey, Dwyer, Dennett, and Dawkins gone around
[LM]"behaving like idiots"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36ptr0F53hkerU1%40individual.net
Fire the IDiots
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0403121312.35d2e0c%40posting.google.com
Larry contradicts himself on Jeffrey Schwartz
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36kvdkF531sqaU1%40individual.net
Larry, is Maff [LM]"an idiot"?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35v5eaF4qc08oU1%40individual.net
homeobox mutations; 1989 Christopher Wills
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.4.10A.B3.9910231652340.8332-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.91.960814031530.14511K-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
Suppose there was "an omnipotent, omniscient designer" of computers
and computer software
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-348naoF46plv5U1%40individual.net
Motivations for Continuing to Cling to Philosophy of Materialism, 1999
Paul Vitz on personal convenience; 2002 Benjamin Wiker
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35qe6lF4orjsoU1%40individual.net
1984 Dean Kenyon
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-34j9b2F4a5gioU1%40individual.net
February 1927 Einstein, i.e. before Einstein's 1930-1931 acceptance
that the universe is expanding: "Try and penetrate with our limited
means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the
discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible
and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we
can comprehend is my religion."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-36d74dF51tdmoU1%40individual.net
Einstein to zu Lowenstein: "people who say there is no God. But what
really makes me angry is that they quote me for support of such views";
1941 Einstein; Lenin's becoming an atheist; 1922 Lenin; Bertrand
Russell never taken in by Soviet regime; 2005 President Bush inaugural
speech
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35nbd1F4pm3jiU1%40individual.net
theological leanings of twenty signers of the Declaration of
Independence
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35bcc1F4j6a0cU1%40individual.net
Hawking is not an atheist
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.980927230202.15518B-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981023223535.2360A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981002001223.7287B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
Flew and the nature of hell
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33b5roF3v2ikjU1%40individual.net
Taking a firm, godless stand for death
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com
1999 John Maynard Smith; 1986 Robert Shapiro;
1993 Philip E. Johnson (a creationist): "consider the possibility that
life is what it so evidently seems to be, the product of creative
intelligence"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35aengF4jt97eU1%40individual.net
1931 Sir Arthur Eddington
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.91.960629225254.11815G-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
2001 Gerald Schroeder, 1999 Paul Davies, 1992 Hubert Yockey, & 1968
Michael Polanyi: [Davies]"life cannot be 'written into' the laws of
physics" presently known
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33b2blF3tdum0U1%40individual.net
Nancy Pearcey's 1996 "DNA: The Message in the Message"
http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9606/opinion/pearcy.html
Michael Kinsley's "Blogged Down"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-32ldo1F3oc5uoU1%40individual.net
Timeline of Materialism, Spontaneous Generation, and Blindwatchmaking
Views
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-348jecF47mfcjU1%40individual.net
1985 A.G. Cairns-Smith, 1986 Andrew Scott, 1999 Freeman Dyson
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33bltcF3rgbovU1%40individual.net
some 1915-1999 doses of reality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33arf3F3vjdggU1%40individual.net
Gould, John Maynard Smith, J.B.S. Haldane, and Richard Lewontin were
Marxists; 2004 R.J. Rummel's "The killing machine that is Marxism"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-32gfjsF3l6o15U1%40individual.net
Hugh Ross and Reasons to Believe
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-32j00lF3nl519U1%40individual.net
1985 A.G. Cairns-Smith; How did recorded-in-DNA/ genetic information
originate?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-32gv43F3jsrelU1%40individual.net
Raup, David M. 1991. _Extinction: Bad Genes or Bad Luck?_ (NY: W.W.
Norton & Company), introduction by Gould, 210pp. On 187, a paragraph:
In the fossil record, many adaptive breakthroughs-- bursts of
speciation accompanied by the origin of new families and
orders--
occur after the big mass extinctions. The expansion of mammals
immediately following the dinosaur extinction is a classic
example. Although this effect is most striking after Big Five
mass extinctions, similar patterns are seen at all scales.
1985 Gould: "we professionals are adrift ourselves in many areas";
Gould's "Not Necessarily a Wing"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0411221033.48b47b7a%40posting.google.com
alt.politics.europe, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.media,
alt.military.retired
alt.politics.democrats,
alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.misc,
alt.politics.british
Michael J. Behe & David W. Snoke's "Simulating evolution by gene
duplication of protein features that require multiple amino acid
residues"
http://www.proteinscience.org/cgi/content/abstract/ps.04802904v1
This website's name is derived from a bogus argument.
A collection of URLs, most of which are posts of mine, is at
Shroud of Turin Links
Brilliant
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=80d0c26f.0401111430.463f2d7f%40posting.google.com
Maddox's 1989 editorial, Gribbin, Eddington, Hoyle, Narliker
?not there
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.970108224604.23566B-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.970426004908.4822A-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
Batch of URLs, version 8
Table of Contents:
1) Personal Growth, Thinking
2) Shroud of Turin
3) Miscellaneous Essays
4) Intelligent Design
5) Origin of Life
6) Theory of Natural Selection & Evolution
7) Materialism
8) Social Darwinism
9) Iraq
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/dfdc07f7e4813201?
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Batch of URLs, version 8
Note: to find a particular name or date quickly, do a "control - f"/
find for the date or a part of the name. To print before reading an
item, as a suggestion, click Google's link to view the post in its
original format. Control-a to select all, Control-c to copy, in Word
do a Control-v to paste, Control-a to select all, change the font to
Times New Roman or Palatino, change the font size to say 9 or 10 or 11
to save toner, and print. Underline things with which you agree or
disagree, and jot your comments in the margins. If it's especially
lengthy, when done reading perhaps make your own table of contents of
the high and low points.
Table of Contents:
1) Personal Growth, Thinking
2) Shroud of Turin
3) Miscellaneous Essays
4) Intelligent Design
5) Origin of Life
6) Theory of Natural Selection & Evolution
7) Materialism
8) Social Darwinism
9) Iraq
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1) PERSONAL GROWTH, THINKING
cutting unwanted habits
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0402162021.7b453b5c%40posting.google.com
make & review your personal mission statement
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0402182045.2bfc1422%40posting.google.com
Attitudes of Gratitude
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.44L.01.0305141814150.4467-100000%40linux2.gl.umbc.edu
rituals and _The Power of Full Engagement_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.44L.01.0311170006270.30236-100000%40linux3.gl.umbc.edu
Naturally Improve Your Vision
http://www.rebuildyourvision.com
fitness with bodyweight exercises
http://www.mattfurey.com
Bill O'Reilly on friendship
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.44L.01.0311140006240.21825-100000%40linux2.gl.umbc.edu
1992 Susan Jeffers on soul-friendships, dating & friendship parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0409071812.147c3ea4%40posting.google.com
On Equality in Friendship
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0403091709.8ed252a%40posting.google.com
What to Say When You Talk to Yourself
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0402242044.52e2e080%40posting.google.com
archive of excellent sermons
http://resources.christianity.com/churchredeemer/
Feynman on uncertainty; Lyttleton's bead-on-a-wire illustration
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990601090737.1777A-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
Feynman, R. Reid, and Berlinski on _ad hominems_
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990102235105.11328B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
reconstructing arguments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981215001959.431B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
"why" is vague
1985 Robert G.B. Reid on "received aphorisms"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980613224255.8353A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
Macbeth on the illusion of the monolith
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981115234755.21390A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
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2) SHROUD OF TURIN
faulty Carbon Dating of
1) must look at preponderance of evidence
2) C-14 tests are undependable
3) archeologists and chemists were needed during the 1988 testing,
faulty methodology in sample collection
4) bioplastic layer
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.981224131117.5044D-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
The Shroud of Turin's 'Blood' Images: Blood, or Paint?
A History of Science Inquiry
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