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"Albert" |
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16 Feb 2004 05:57:40 PM |
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Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
and a WOMAN.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside a
Cracker Jacks box.
"shrek" <shrek@at.the.net> wrote in message
news:qsv130dr5s7ehp4rmfpp9gn79fdq83s3r1@127.0.0.1...
By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO - Dozens of same-sex couples lined up outside City Hall
in heavy rain early Monday, waiting for city offices to open so they
could join more than 1,700 other gay and lesbian couples who have
exchanged vows in the last few days.
Despite miserable weather and the Presidents Day holiday, many couples
camped out throughout the night. Though City Hall was scheduled to
open at 10 a.m., City Assessor Mabel Teng said she would try to open
her office earlier because of the demand.
Teng said many of the city workers who helped process the marriage
licenses throughout the holiday weekend were volunteering their time.
"I am just very honored to be involved in this significant and
history-making event," Teng said Monday morning. "I'm so proud to be
part of it."
Since San Francisco officials began issuing marriage licenses to
same-sex couples on Thursday, hundreds of gays and lesbians have wed -
many rushing to California from across the country.
While hundreds of same-sex marriages kept City Hall offices buzzing
through the weekend, conservative activists promised a relentless
legal challenge.
The Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund sued to block the same-sex
unions, and San Francisco Superior Court Judge James L. Warren has
scheduled a hearing Tuesday in the case. A second legal challenge
filed by a California group is also scheduled for a court hearing
Tuesday. Briefs were due Monday.
More than 1,700 marriage licenses have been issued to same-sex couples
since Thursday. Although some may choose to wait before actually
getting married, hundreds have already gone before city officials to
exchange vows and be declared "spouses for life," often in ceremonies
scattered around the interior of the ornate City Hall.
New Mayor Gavin Newsom touched off the wedding spree by ordering
officials to issue licenses to same-sex couples, declaring that he was
merely ensuring equal treatment of gays and lesbians. Newsom later
officiated personally at the weddings of his chief of staff and policy
director, both of whom married their longtime partners.
Critics have pointed to a ballot initiative approved by California
voters in 2000 that says the state will only recognize marriages
between a man and woman. Randy Thomasson, the director of the Campaign
for California Families, one of the groups challenging the marriages
in court, said last week that Newsom "can't play God."
On Sunday, a small group of protesters stood across the street from
City Hall holding signs protesting same-sex unions.
But the critics seemed to make little difference to most of the people
inside the building, where the mood was both busy and joyous. Many
clerks and sheriff's deputies volunteered their time to work over the
weekend.
Rich Walker and Brad Chilcoat, who have owned a home together in San
Francisco for the last three and a half years, exchanged their vows at
the top of City Hall's grand staircase, and said later that the city's
recognition of their union added special meaning.
"It's official. It's official," Walker said, displaying the marriage
certificate stamped with both their names.
The certificate, Chilcoat said, "moves us from second-class citizens
to equal status."
Walker, 50, and Chilcoat, 41, walked out of City Hall arm-in-arm,
cheered by the crowds of people waiting outside.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
18 Feb 2004 05:16:40 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:7cd730tqeve11tevtbsljse15mpe96n8pg@4ax.com:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:04:39 GMT, a stranger
called by some Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:bnc530pd1nnastupm2qkgorvm940s7crtg@4ax.com:
<snip>
"And when this happens, When we allow freedom to ring, when we let
it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and
every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's
children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants
and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of
the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God
Almighty, we are free at last!""
In San Francisco, they were free at last.
Is this the gays' "Rosa Parks" moment? Or was that Stonewall?
The GLBT rights movement has had a couple of seminal moments (NPI).
Stonewall was probably the "Rosa Parks" moment. The White Night Riot,
and now the Valentine Day Marriage Blitz.
"White Night Riot"?
Is that where everyone in a club wears white? (I went with some friends to
one place, wearing black...didn't see the little poster announcing it was
"White Night" until it was way too late *g*)
I wish you all could have seen it. It was utterly amazing. I saw one
SFPD officer get married to her sweetheart by the SFPD Chaplain who
had come down on a Sunday in his dress uniform, and she had an escort
of about 20 officers in full uniform. I saw families in tears of joy,
people dancing out of city hall, people donating wedding dresses,
tuxes, food, camping gear.. memebers of the Symphony showed up and
megan playing music in the rotunda.. and everywhere you turned
someone was getting married. The energy was electric.
That's utterly cool :)
See for yourselves:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/document.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/02/18/gaywedgallery.
DTL
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"You should realize Usenet is a strange reality where you see people
beating up a patch of grass where nine years ago there used to be a
horse. " 01 July 2003, talk.origins
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| Title: Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
18 Feb 2004 08:39:33 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:16:40 GMT, a stranger
called by some Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
The GLBT rights movement has had a couple of seminal moments (NPI).
Stonewall was probably the "Rosa Parks" moment. The White Night Riot,
and now the Valentine Day Marriage Blitz.
"White Night Riot"?
Is that where everyone in a club wears white? (I went with some friends to
one place, wearing black...didn't see the little poster announcing it was
"White Night" until it was way too late *g*)
In 1978, disgruntled White resigned from the Board of Supervisors,
frustrated by the low salary - $9,600 a year - then paid to members of
the board. Soon he had a change of heart and asked popular Mayor
George Moscone to reappoint him to the position. Moscone said no.
On the evening of November 27, White entered City Hall through a
window on the lower level, north. (At the time, this area was a
supervisors' parking area. Today, the window that White entered is now
a door.) White, a former policeman and fireman, shot and killed
Moscone and gay Supervisor Harvey Milk.
San Franciscans were indescribably shocked when Board President Dianne
Feinstein announced that the mayor and Milk had been killed and Dan
White was the suspect. Feinstein was sworn in as the new mayor as the
entire City mourned for leaders Moscone and Milk.
On May 21 the following year, White was convicted of voluntary
manslaughter. The jury accepted a diminished capacity defense based on
testimony that White was suffering from untreated depression. In doing
so, the jury rejected first degree murder charges. The so-called
Twinkie defense is a widely accepted misinterpretation of White's
diminished capacity argument. Even the San Francisco Chronicle
reported that White claimed his mind was fogged by too much sugar on
the night of the murders. In reality, White's new found junk food
habit was offered as evidence of his depression, not as the cause of
it.
Outraged San Franciscans responded to the court's decision to slap
White on the wrist for killings (7 year sentence) by rioting at City
Hall, the "White Night Riot." White was paroled in 1984 after serving
just five years and a little more than a month behind bars at Soledad
Prison. In 1985 he returned to San Francisco despite a request by
Feinstein for White, the most reviled man in the City's history, to
stay away.
White killed himself in October 1985.
Some good accounts of the White Night Riots:
http://www.johncarroll.info/WhiteNightRiot.html
http://thecastro.net/milk/whitenight.html
I was a 12 year old living the comfortable suburban life in San Jose
(about 50 miles south of The City.) I was uncomfortably dealing with
the fact that I might be a ***** (nobody every explained that
bisexuality existed, you were normal or you were a fag.) when the news
of the Dan White verdict came in.
Later that night, all the local stations cut into regular programming
to cover the growing situation. Thousands of people, chanting "No
Justice, No Peace!" were marching down Market St. I was fascinated,
these weren't the limp-wristed *****-smokers that everyone assumed fags
were! These were angry people, and their anger was focused on the
city. We watched as they turned over police cars, threw rocks at City
Hall, and threw burning tires into the street.
My clearest memory that night was the interview with one of the
rioters. A good looking man, with a bloody bruise on his forehead
from a police baton, stared right into the camera and declared:
"People are going to have to stop thinking of us as lisping pansies
who own decorating shops, but as real people capable of violence."
Although I stayed in the closet so I could serve in the Army, I was
reborn an activist that day, and I swore that I would work to make
sure that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people would
someday be treated as Americans, indeed humans, deserve to be treated.
I wish I could find out who that man was, I'd like to thank him, or
his survivors if he fell during the AIDS pandemic.
No Justice, No Peace.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
19 Feb 2004 01:25:34 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:6978301hgkmcji73fg73gu4p5tu0jras1n@4ax.com:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:16:40 GMT, a stranger
called by some Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
The GLBT rights movement has had a couple of seminal moments (NPI).
Stonewall was probably the "Rosa Parks" moment. The White Night
Riot, and now the Valentine Day Marriage Blitz.
"White Night Riot"?
Is that where everyone in a club wears white? (I went with some
friends to one place, wearing black...didn't see the little poster
announcing it was "White Night" until it was way too late *g*)
In 1978, disgruntled White resigned from the Board of Supervisors,
frustrated by the low salary - $9,600 a year - then paid to members of
the board. Soon he had a change of heart and asked popular Mayor
George Moscone to reappoint him to the position. Moscone said no.
On the evening of November 27, White entered City Hall through a
window on the lower level, north. (At the time, this area was a
supervisors' parking area. Today, the window that White entered is now
a door.) White, a former policeman and fireman, shot and killed
Moscone and gay Supervisor Harvey Milk.
I remember Milk's name, and a little of the surrounding story.
My clearest memory that night was the interview with one of the
rioters. A good looking man, with a bloody bruise on his forehead
from a police baton, stared right into the camera and declared:
"People are going to have to stop thinking of us as lisping pansies
who own decorating shops, but as real people capable of violence."
Bravo! (no pun intended)
Although I stayed in the closet so I could serve in the Army, I was
reborn an activist that day, and I swore that I would work to make
sure that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people would
someday be treated as Americans, indeed humans, deserve to be treated.
I wish I could find out who that man was, I'd like to thank him, or
his survivors if he fell during the AIDS pandemic.
No Justice, No Peace.
*nod* I've got a number of acquaintences in the transgender community; many
of them have become activists in the past few years; one of them was sacked
by management at Eglin Air Force Base for wearing a bra (apparently the
supervisors didn't realize that _all_ of this person's clothes were
women's, but conservative enough in cut to be androgynous). Jerry became
Jeri a few years after that--and recently got in trouble at work for _not_
wearing a bra. Funny how stuff turns out *g*
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"You should realize Usenet is a strange reality where you see people
beating up a patch of grass where nine years ago there used to be a
horse. " 01 July 2003, talk.origins
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17 Feb 2004 12:40:34 PM |
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Ned i bach <bChYb.7018$WW3.382@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Wyle
Coyote <a@d.d> teithant i thiw hin:
Peacenik <criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote in message
news:kUgYb.44793$yE5.193862@attbi_s54...
"Albert" <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SJcYb.9017$fE4.4178@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
Nothing is recognized by god, since god doesn't exist.
Then why use the teachings and experiences of a God fearing man like Martin
Luther King to support your GODLESS initiative?
Why not look the The Church of Satan for support?
Why not indeed? One of the Satanic Rules is "do not complain about anything
to which you need not subject yourself", which if I'm interpreting it
correctly means "mind your own business"---and that's a principle a lot of
other religions could benefit from.
--
Xaonon, EAC Chief of Mad Scientists and informal BAAWA, aa #1821, Kibo #: 1
http://xaonon.dyndns.org/ Guaranteed content-free since 1999. No refunds.
"This is the most disturbing surprise Barry Bostwick has pulled on us since
that robot dragonfly came out of his nose on `Lexx'." -- James "Kibo" Parry
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16 Feb 2004 06:01:23 PM |
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"Albert" <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SJcYb.9017$fE4.4178@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
Your mythology is not relevant to civil law.
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| User: "r_c_brown" |
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17 Feb 2004 12:08:55 PM |
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"Albert" <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<SJcYb.9017$fE4.4178@bignews5.bellsouth.net>...
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
and a WOMAN.
God says you are wrong.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside a
Cracker Jacks box.
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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17 Feb 2004 05:27:33 AM |
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"Thomas P." <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:iuq330lsjcd3r7mibrt7n0nr3mv4jv9qm3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:57:40 -0500, "Albert"
<notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
God is not a member of Congress, nor does he sit on the Supreme Court.
Although our current President does have delusions of Godhood... Does that
count?
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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17 Feb 2004 03:08:27 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:27:33 GMT, "Light Templar"
<I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote:
"Thomas P." <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:iuq330lsjcd3r7mibrt7n0nr3mv4jv9qm3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:57:40 -0500, "Albert"
<notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
God is not a member of Congress, nor does he sit on the Supreme Court.
Although our current President does have delusions of Godhood... Does that
count?
You will have to ask Albert. He appears to be an expert on delusions.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Lina Morgan" |
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03 Apr 2004 09:36:03 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:20:25 +0000,
Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> spewed...
...NOTHING but a hate-tripe rant. NO surprise.
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Albert <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
"shrek" <shrek@at.the.net> wrote:
By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO - Dozens of same-sex couples lined up outside City
Hall in heavy rain early Monday, waiting for city offices to open so they
could join more than 1,700 other gay and lesbian couples who have
exchanged vows in the last few days.
Despite miserable weather and the Presidents Day holiday, many couples
camped out throughout the night. Though City Hall was scheduled to
open at 10 a.m., City Assessor Mabel Teng said she would try to open
her office earlier because of the demand.
Teng said many of the city workers who helped process the marriage
licenses throughout the holiday weekend were volunteering their time.
"I am just very honored to be involved in this significant and
history-making event," Teng said Monday morning. "I'm so proud to be
part of it."
Since San Francisco officials began issuing marriage licenses to
same-sex couples on Thursday, hundreds of gays and lesbians have wed -
many rushing to California from across the country.
While hundreds of same-sex marriages kept City Hall offices buzzing
through the weekend, conservative activists promised a relentless
legal challenge.
The Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund sued to block the same-sex
unions, and San Francisco Superior Court Judge James L. Warren has
scheduled a hearing Tuesday in the case. A second legal challenge
filed by a California group is also scheduled for a court hearing
Tuesday. Briefs were due Monday.
More than 1,700 marriage licenses have been issued to same-sex couples
since Thursday. Although some may choose to wait before actually
getting married, hundreds have already gone before city officials to
exchange vows and be declared "spouses for life," often in ceremonies
scattered around the interior of the ornate City Hall.
New Mayor Gavin Newsom touched off the wedding spree by ordering
officials to issue licenses to same-sex couples, declaring that he was
merely ensuring equal treatment of gays and lesbians. Newsom later
officiated personally at the weddings of his chief of staff and policy
director, both of whom married their longtime partners.
Critics have pointed to a ballot initiative approved by California
voters in 2000 that says the state will only recognize marriages
between a man and woman. Randy Thomasson, the director of the
Campaign for California Families, one of the groups challenging the
marriages in court, said last week that Newsom "can't play God."
On Sunday, a small group of protesters stood across the street from
City Hall holding signs protesting same-sex unions.
But the critics seemed to make little difference to most of the people
inside the building, where the mood was both busy and joyous. Many
clerks and sheriff's deputies volunteered their time to work over the
weekend.
Rich Walker and Brad Chilcoat, who have owned a home together in San
Francisco for the last three and a half years, exchanged their vows at
the top of City Hall's grand staircase, and said later that the city's
recognition of their union added special meaning.
"It's official. It's official," Walker said, displaying the marriage
certificate stamped with both their names.
The certificate, Chilcoat said, "moves us from second-class citizens
to equal status."
Walker, 50, and Chilcoat, 41, walked out of City Hall arm-in-arm,
cheered by the crowds of people waiting outside.
[ ... ]
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you
have, they don't mean a thing because to God a marriage
only is valid if it is between a MAN and a WOMAN.
Your abject hatefulness and IGNORANCE is duly noted, bigot.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the
surprise inside a Cracker Jacks box.
THAT will soon change!
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
The GOOD news is:
(1) Once the California court takes up the issue, ITSELF,
in a couple of months, it will probably act in accordance
with the state's constitution. And the marriages then will
RESUME, fully VALID. At that point, formally-valid
replacement marriage certificates probably will be mailed
to all couples who got married during the period of
liberation.
(2) Better STILL!! As of May 17th, same-sex marriage will
become fully legal is Massachusetts, and no matter WHAT
you hateful bigots do, and no matter HOW much you ignor-
antly WHINE, those will continue UNABATED for **at
least* 31 months!! By which time probably areound 100,000
same-sex married couples will be living in all 50 states.
And since Bush's hateful Bigotry Amendment will never
get through, that will be THAT for your loathsome and
worthless agenda -- forevermore.
In just a few years, Americans will look back at today's
homophobes and Anti-Choicers as we do NOW at the segrega-
tionists of 40 years earlier. And wonder how ANYONE could
**ever** have been so hateful and downright STUPID. And
I, and all my fellow egalitarians, will be LAUGHING at you
moronic bigots for the rest of our lives!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<"Lina's" mindless hate-swill flushed>
<Everything that this bigot feared, and
omitted, has been RESTORED, above.>
We'll see who will restore you child molesters when you're all burning
in hell.
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03 Apr 2004 11:32:51 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:36:03 +0000,
Loony Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> spewed...
...NOTHING but a hate-tripe rant. NO surprise.
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Albert <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
"shrek" <shrek@at.the.net> wrote:
By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO - Dozens of same-sex couples lined up outside City
Hall in heavy rain early Monday, waiting for city offices to open so they
could join more than 1,700 other gay and lesbian couples who have
exchanged vows in the last few days.
Despite miserable weather and the Presidents Day holiday, many couples
camped out throughout the night. Though City Hall was scheduled to
open at 10 a.m., City Assessor Mabel Teng said she would try to open
her office earlier because of the demand.
Teng said many of the city workers who helped process the marriage
licenses throughout the holiday weekend were volunteering their time.
"I am just very honored to be involved in this significant and
history-making event," Teng said Monday morning. "I'm so proud to be
part of it."
Since San Francisco officials began issuing marriage licenses to
same-sex couples on Thursday, hundreds of gays and lesbians have wed -
many rushing to California from across the country.
While hundreds of same-sex marriages kept City Hall offices buzzing
through the weekend, conservative activists promised a relentless
legal challenge.
The Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund sued to block the same-sex
unions, and San Francisco Superior Court Judge James L. Warren has
scheduled a hearing Tuesday in the case. A second legal challenge
filed by a California group is also scheduled for a court hearing
Tuesday. Briefs were due Monday.
More than 1,700 marriage licenses have been issued to same-sex couples
since Thursday. Although some may choose to wait before actually
getting married, hundreds have already gone before city officials to
exchange vows and be declared "spouses for life," often in ceremonies
scattered around the interior of the ornate City Hall.
New Mayor Gavin Newsom touched off the wedding spree by ordering
officials to issue licenses to same-sex couples, declaring that he was
merely ensuring equal treatment of gays and lesbians. Newsom later
officiated personally at the weddings of his chief of staff and policy
director, both of whom married their longtime partners.
Critics have pointed to a ballot initiative approved by California
voters in 2000 that says the state will only recognize marriages
between a man and woman. Randy Thomasson, the director of the
Campaign for California Families, one of the groups challenging the
marriages in court, said last week that Newsom "can't play God."
On Sunday, a small group of protesters stood across the street from
City Hall holding signs protesting same-sex unions.
But the critics seemed to make little difference to most of the people
inside the building, where the mood was both busy and joyous. Many
clerks and sheriff's deputies volunteered their time to work over the
weekend.
Rich Walker and Brad Chilcoat, who have owned a home together in San
Francisco for the last three and a half years, exchanged their vows at
the top of City Hall's grand staircase, and said later that the city's
recognition of their union added special meaning.
"It's official. It's official," Walker said, displaying the marriage
certificate stamped with both their names.
The certificate, Chilcoat said, "moves us from second-class citizens
to equal status."
Walker, 50, and Chilcoat, 41, walked out of City Hall arm-in-arm,
cheered by the crowds of people waiting outside.
[ ... ]
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you
have, they don't mean a thing because to God a marriage
only is valid if it is between a MAN and a WOMAN.
Your abject hatefulness and IGNORANCE is duly noted, bigot.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the
surprise inside a Cracker Jacks box.
THAT will soon change!
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
The GOOD news is:
(1) Once the California court takes up the issue, ITSELF,
in a couple of months, it will probably act in accordance
with the state's constitution. And the marriages then will
RESUME, fully VALID. At that point, formally-valid
replacement marriage certificates probably will be mailed
to all couples who got married during the period of
liberation.
(2) Better STILL!! As of May 17th, same-sex marriage will
become fully legal is Massachusetts, and no matter WHAT
you hateful bigots do, and no matter HOW much you ignor-
antly WHINE, those will continue UNABATED for **at
least* 31 months!! By which time probably areound 100,000
same-sex married couples will be living in all 50 states.
And since Bush's hateful Bigotry Amendment will never
get through, that will be THAT for your loathsome and
worthless agenda -- forevermore.
In just a few years, Americans will look back at today's
homophobes and Anti-Choicers as we do NOW at the segrega-
tionists of 40 years earlier. And wonder how ANYONE could
**ever** have been so hateful and downright STUPID. And
I, and all my fellow egalitarians, will be LAUGHING at you
moronic bigots for the rest of our lives!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<"Lina's" mindless hate-swill flushed>
<Everything that this bigot feared, and
omitted, has been RESTORED, above.>
We'll see who will restore you child molesters when you're
all burning in hell.
As though that would be any of YOUR business, buttinsky.
LOL!!!! You're FUNNIER than hell, busybodyish Loony Lina.
You wouldn't know a child molestor if you tripped over one. CLUE:
They are *not* the people you are being so hateful to. With the
exception of the handful of anomalies that can be found within ANY
group of people.
Did you have to go to some sort of special school to reach your
current level of ignorance -- a spinoff of the KKK, perhaps? Or were
you born that retarded?
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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03 Apr 2004 09:34:48 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:09:52 -0000,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Craig chilton < > wrote:
[ ... ]
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
Your "reality" is a self-created one, born of evil.
My reality is created by GOD.
That says a lot about what you call "reality". And that isn't
a compliment.
And, as I was saying BEFORE the
above rude omission was made by Lina ---
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
The GOOD news is:
(1) Once the California court takes up the issue, ITSELF,
in a couple of months, it will probably act in accordance
with the state's constitution. And the marriages then will
RESUME, fully VALID. At that point, formally-valid
replacement marriage certificates probably will be mailed
to all couples who got married during the period of
liberation.
And BOY!!! Will those **original** ones ever become
valuable **collectibles**!! (LOL!!! I *love* it!!)
(2) Better STILL!! As of May 17th, same-sex marriage will
become fully legal is Massachusetts, and no matter WHAT
you hateful bigots do, and no matter HOW much you ignor-
antly WHINE, those will continue UNABATED for **at
least* 31 months!! By which time probably areound 100,000
same-sex married couples will be living in all 50 states.
And since Bush's hateful Bigotry Amendment will never
get through, that will be THAT for your loathsome and
worthless agenda -- forevermore.
In just a few years, Americans will look back at today's
homophobes and Anti-Choicers as we do NOW at the segrega-
tionists of 40 years earlier. And wonder how ANYONE could
**ever** have been so hateful and downright STUPID. And
I, and all my fellow egalitarians, will be LAUGHING at you
moronic bigots for the rest of our lives!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
At least, that's how America's ***RRR Cult*** has
been abusing it !!
Craig Chilton < >
Abuse is what you child molesters are doing to our children!
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04 Apr 2004 04:14:36 AM |
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Lina Morgan wrote:
At least, that's how America's ***RRR Cult*** has
been abusing it !!
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Abuse is what you child molesters are doing to our children!
Are you old enough to have children?
How many children do you have?
Can you tell us when they were abused and by whom?
--
Fritz
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Religion = tyranny.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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03 Apr 2004 11:23:36 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:34:48 +0000,
Bigoted LOSER, Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Craxanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote:
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Bigoted LOSER,Lina Morgan, wrote:
Craig chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
Your "reality" is a self-created one, born of evil.
My reality is created by GOD.
That says a lot about what you call "reality". And that isn't
a compliment.
And, as I was saying BEFORE the above rude **omission**was
made by Loony Lina ---
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
The GOOD news is:
(1) Once the California court takes up the issue, ITSELF,
in a couple of months, it will probably act in accordance
with the state's constitution. And the marriages then will
RESUME, fully VALID. At that point, formally-valid
replacement marriage certificates probably will be mailed
to all couples who got married during the period of
liberation.
And BOY!!! Will those **original** ones ever become
valuable **collectibles**!! (LOL!!! I *love* it!!)
(2) Better STILL!! As of May 17th, same-sex marriage will
become fully legal is Massachusetts, and no matter WHAT
you hateful bigots do, and no matter HOW much you ignor-
antly WHINE, those will continue UNABATED for **at
least* 31 months!! By which time probably areound 100,000
same-sex married couples will be living in all 50 states.
And since Bush's hateful Bigotry Amendment will never
get through, that will be THAT for your loathsome and
worthless agenda -- forevermore.
In just a few years, Americans will look back at today's
homophobes and Anti-Choicers as we do NOW at the segrega-
tionists of 40 years earlier. And wonder how ANYONE could
**ever** have been so hateful and downright STUPID. And
I, and all my fellow egalitarians, will be LAUGHING at you
moronic bigots for the rest of our lives!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
At least, that's how America's ***RRR Cult*** has
been abusing it !!
Abuse is what you child molesters are doing to our children!
Go take a long walk of a very short pier, pathetic IGNORANT
and LYING loser. No sensible person wants anything to do with
your ilk OR yout hateful agenda against personal liberties.
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Fletch F. Fletch" |
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17 Feb 2004 01:10:49 AM |
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Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they
don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a
MAN
and a WOMAN.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside
a
Cracker Jacks box.
Why should anyone take into account your beliefs about whatever God you
worship?
Slainte,
Fletch
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| User: "Nick" |
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16 Feb 2004 07:25:04 PM |
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Albert wrote:
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
and a WOMAN.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside a
Cracker Jacks box.
The United States isn't a theocracy, jackoff. If you want to live in one, then
move to Iran. Bloody wanker.
*********************************************
"Plutonians are teh suk." Ignignot from ATHF
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| User: "Lina Morgan" |
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03 Apr 2004 09:39:03 AM |
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Fritz <fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:
Lina Morgan wrote:
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the
surprise inside a Cracker Jacks box.
THAT will soon change!
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
Your "reality" is a self-created one, born of evil.
My reality is created by GOD.
Ha, ha ha, LOL!
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by the
flames in hell.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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03 Apr 2004 07:04:01 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:39:03 +0000, a stranger
called by some Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by the
flames in hell.
Matthew 7:1-5
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's
eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how
wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first
cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see
clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I think you're in trouble there...
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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03 Apr 2004 10:36:14 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> astounded us with:
news:iinu6057t9cc7io9ptin2epn5i4ed011ln@4ax.com:
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:39:03 +0000, a stranger
called by some Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by the
flames in hell.
Matthew 7:1-5
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's
eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how
wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first
cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see
clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I think you're in trouble there...
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
Oh yeah, it's "the lake o'farr" for her...
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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03 Apr 2004 11:40:37 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:39:03 +0000,
Loony Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Fritz <fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:
LoonyLina Morgan wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Loony Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Addled Albert <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as
the surprise inside a Cracker Jacks box.
THAT will soon change!
Thank you. Thank you! These idiots don't understand....
No. YOU two are the idiots, Lina and Albert, and you
obviously don't have a fair-minded and compassionate cell
in your entire bodies.
ROTFL!!!! *here* is the REALITY ---
The GOOD news is:
(1) Once the California court takes up the issue, ITSELF,
in a couple of months, it will probably act in accordance
with the state's constitution. And the marriages then will
RESUME, fully VALID. At that point, formally-valid
replacement marriage certificates probably will be mailed
to all couples who got married during the period of
liberation.
(2) Better STILL!! As of May 17th, same-sex marriage will
become fully legal is Massachusetts, and no matter WHAT
you hateful bigots do, and no matter HOW much you ignor-
antly WHINE, those will continue UNABATED for **at
least* 31 months!! By which time probably areound 100,000
same-sex married couples will be living in all 50 states.
And since Bush's hateful Bigotry Amendment will never
get through, that will be THAT for your loathsome and
worthless agenda -- forevermore.
In just a few years, Americans will look back at today's
homophobes and Anti-Choicers as we do NOW at the segrega-
tionists of 40 years earlier. And wonder how ANYONE could
**ever** have been so hateful and downright STUPID. And
I, and all my fellow egalitarians, will be LAUGHING at you
moronic bigots for the rest of our lives!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your "reality" is a self-created one, born of evil.
My reality is created by GOD.
Ha, ha ha, LOL!
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by
the flames in hell.
People will ALWAYS be laughing at *you*, no matter WHERE
they may happen to be.
(LOL!!!!!! What a fruitcake!!)
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Bard Kesnit" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:15:20 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:40:37 GMT, (Craig Chilton)
wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:39:03 +0000,
Loony Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Fritz <fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by
the flames in hell.
People will ALWAYS be laughing at *you*, no matter WHERE
they may happen to be.
(LOL!!!!!! What a fruitcake!!)
Craig Chilton < >
Just ignore her. She's trolling, and being rather stupid about
it since she keeps accusing you of being gay. Maybe if no one answers
her, she'll get bored and go elsewhere.
Bard Kesnit
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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05 Apr 2004 12:25:24 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 02:15:20 GMT,
Bard Kesnit <vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Loony Lina Morgan <yajairasmom979@netscape.net> wrote:
Fritz <fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:
We'll see if you'll be still be laughing as you're consumed by
the flames in hell.
People will ALWAYS be laughing at *you*, no matter WHERE
they may happen to be.
(LOL!!!!!! What a fruitcake!!)
Just ignore her. She's trolling, and being rather stupid about
it since she keeps accusing you of being gay. Maybe if no one
answers her, she'll get bored and go elsewhere.
Bard Kesnit
I doubt it, Bard. Because it takes **some** level of intelligence
to GET bored, and I'm betting her IQ is in the 60s or lower.
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "johac" |
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17 Feb 2004 12:23:37 AM |
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In article <SJcYb.9017$fE4.4178@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"Albert" <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
And you have evidence that this 'God' person exists?
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
and a WOMAN.
How do you know? Did 'God' person tell you him/her/itself?
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside a
Cracker Jacks box.
Someone told me once that 'God' person was hiding in a Cracker Jacks
box. I opened the box, but is was empty.
"shrek" <shrek@at.the.net> wrote in message
news:qsv130dr5s7ehp4rmfpp9gn79fdq83s3r1@127.0.0.1...
By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO - Dozens of same-sex couples lined up outside City Hall
in heavy rain early Monday, waiting for city offices to open so they
could join more than 1,700 other gay and lesbian couples who have
exchanged vows in the last few days.
Despite miserable weather and the Presidents Day holiday, many couples
camped out throughout the night. Though City Hall was scheduled to
open at 10 a.m., City Assessor Mabel Teng said she would try to open
her office earlier because of the demand.
Teng said many of the city workers who helped process the marriage
licenses throughout the holiday weekend were volunteering their time.
"I am just very honored to be involved in this significant and
history-making event," Teng said Monday morning. "I'm so proud to be
part of it."
Since San Francisco officials began issuing marriage licenses to
same-sex couples on Thursday, hundreds of gays and lesbians have wed -
many rushing to California from across the country.
While hundreds of same-sex marriages kept City Hall offices buzzing
through the weekend, conservative activists promised a relentless
legal challenge.
The Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund sued to block the same-sex
unions, and San Francisco Superior Court Judge James L. Warren has
scheduled a hearing Tuesday in the case. A second legal challenge
filed by a California group is also scheduled for a court hearing
Tuesday. Briefs were due Monday.
More than 1,700 marriage licenses have been issued to same-sex couples
since Thursday. Although some may choose to wait before actually
getting married, hundreds have already gone before city officials to
exchange vows and be declared "spouses for life," often in ceremonies
scattered around the interior of the ornate City Hall.
New Mayor Gavin Newsom touched off the wedding spree by ordering
officials to issue licenses to same-sex couples, declaring that he was
merely ensuring equal treatment of gays and lesbians. Newsom later
officiated personally at the weddings of his chief of staff and policy
director, both of whom married their longtime partners.
Critics have pointed to a ballot initiative approved by California
voters in 2000 that says the state will only recognize marriages
between a man and woman. Randy Thomasson, the director of the Campaign
for California Families, one of the groups challenging the marriages
in court, said last week that Newsom "can't play God."
On Sunday, a small group of protesters stood across the street from
City Hall holding signs protesting same-sex unions.
But the critics seemed to make little difference to most of the people
inside the building, where the mood was both busy and joyous. Many
clerks and sheriff's deputies volunteered their time to work over the
weekend.
Rich Walker and Brad Chilcoat, who have owned a home together in San
Francisco for the last three and a half years, exchanged their vows at
the top of City Hall's grand staircase, and said later that the city's
recognition of their union added special meaning.
"It's official. It's official," Walker said, displaying the marriage
certificate stamped with both their names.
The certificate, Chilcoat said, "moves us from second-class citizens
to equal status."
Walker, 50, and Chilcoat, 41, walked out of City Hall arm-in-arm,
cheered by the crowds of people waiting outside.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Ninure Saunders" |
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17 Feb 2004 07:41:44 AM |
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In article <SJcYb.9017$fE4.4178@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "Albert"
<notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> wrote:
-Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
-Period.
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-I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
-mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
-and a WOMAN.
-
And " God" also "says" that you cannot divorce, nor can you re-marry.
So if we go by your "standards", or excuse for logic, thre are an aful
lot og "straight" marriages that are invalid.
I'm just curius as to when you gave a damn about what God says?
Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
http://Rainbow-Christian.tk
The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
My Online Diary
http://www.ninure.deardiary.net
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Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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16 Feb 2004 08:00:07 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:57:40 -0500, a stranger
called by some "Albert" <notalberttrue313@hotmail.com> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
Gay marriages aren't valid because they are not recognized by G-O-D.
Period.
Sorry, but under California law, religion is not a necessary part of
marriage.
I don't care how many marriage certificates or licenses you have, they don't
mean a thing because to God a marriage only is valid if it is between a MAN
and a WOMAN.
Again, I will pay you piles of money if you can find the word God in
the California Civil Code regarding marriage.
Those gay marriage certificates are about as valid as the surprise inside a
Cracker Jacks box.
No, they are legal. We'll see what happens next.
Now, a question. What the hell bothers you about how others live
their lives?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Lee Dimas" |
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| Title: Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
16 Feb 2004 09:39:20 PM |
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In article <r9t230hiknuq2m796jniiv57m0iia53tic@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Now, a question. What the hell bothers you about how others live
their lives?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
It is a defense mechanism. If your beliefs say that gays are
evil/bad/abomination and yet gays are leading happy, productive lives
then maybe your beliefs are wrong. When you have invested that much time
and energy in your belief structures you will go to incredible lengths
to insure that your beliefs are validated, even if that means trying to
deny rights and happiness to others.
James Randi's website has numerous stories of people refusing to give up
their delusions regardless of any evidence to the contrary. This is
similar.
Lee Dimas
aa#11101111001
Surely you can figure out my address.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: 2,000 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
16 Feb 2004 10:43:00 PM |
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"Lee Dimas" <lddiimmaass@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:lddiimmaass-9B2797.20392016022004@news.uswest.net...
In article <r9t230hiknuq2m796jniiv57m0iia53tic@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Now, a question. What the hell bothers you about how others live
their lives?
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
It is a defense mechanism. If your beliefs say that gays are
evil/bad/abomination and yet gays are leading happy, productive lives
then maybe your beliefs are wrong. When you have invested that much time
and energy in your belief structures you will go to incredible lengths
to insure that your beliefs are validated, even if that means trying to
deny rights and happiness to others.
James Randi's website has numerous stories of people refusing to give up
their delusions regardless of any evidence to the contrary. This is
similar.
It's known as "cognitive dissonance". Happens often with apocalyptic
cultists who witness the coming and going of anticipated doomsday dates.
They make up all sorts of fantastic excuses to explain away the failure of
the end of the world prediction, saying such things as "The end of the world
DID occur - on a spiritual plane" or "We miscalculated. Then end of the
world will be on XXX date in the future."
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Peacenik
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: 2,500 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
17 Feb 2004 12:21:06 AM |
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Peacenik wrote:
"Lee Dimas" <lddiimmaass@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:lddiimmaass-9B2797.20392016022004@news.uswest.net...
In article <r9t230hiknuq2m796jniiv57m0iia53tic@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
<snip everything>
Just dropped in to change the subject line since I read on the net that
by the close of the day, about 2,500 same-sex marriage licenses had been
issued in SF. This means there are 5,000 happy people and their
families in California! :)
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+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: 2,500 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
17 Feb 2004 10:36:40 AM |
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"L. Michael Roberts" <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote in message
news:hpiYb.3418$Ks6.42816@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
Peacenik wrote:
"Lee Dimas" <lddiimmaass@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:lddiimmaass-9B2797.20392016022004@news.uswest.net...
In article <r9t230hiknuq2m796jniiv57m0iia53tic@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
<snip everything>
Just dropped in to change the subject line since I read on the net that
by the close of the day, about 2,500 same-sex marriage licenses had been
issued in SF. This means there are 5,000 happy people and their
families in California! :)
And 5000 people whose newly-won equal rights the bigots are going to attempt
to take away. When the bigots try to violate the civil rights of five
THOUSAND people, there's going to be hell to pay. There's strength in
numbers.
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Peacenik
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| User: "kw" |
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| Title: Re: 2,500 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
17 Feb 2004 12:29:59 PM |
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In article <rqrYb.51546$_44.48926@attbi_s52>,
criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net says...
And 5000 people whose newly-won equal rights the bigots are going to attempt
to take away. When the bigots try to violate the civil rights of five
THOUSAND people, there's going to be hell to pay. There's strength in
numbers.
Five thousand degenerates versus the far greater number
of normal decent people.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: 2,500 gay marriages in SF by tonight! |
17 Feb 2004 11:19:29 PM |
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"kw" <liberals@*****.spelunkers.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a9c199fe579520c989797@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In article <rqrYb.51546$_44.48926@attbi_s52>,
criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net says...
And 5000 people whose newly-won equal rights the bigots are going to
attempt
to take away. When the bigots try to violate the civil rights of five
THOUSAND people, there's going to be hell to pay. There's strength in
numbers.
Five thousand degenerates versus the far greater number
of normal decent people.
Not "versus". Five thousand in *cooperation* with the millions of normal,
decent people who support the gay marriages going on in SF.
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Peacenik
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