Religions > Atheism > Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl...
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"Rob. OConnor" |
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31 Jul 2007 08:50:32 PM |
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Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
"Leonard Abbott" <leonard-abbott@webtv.net> wrote in message
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If you really believe in ''survival of the fittest by natural
selection', A woolly elephant would have no better chance for survival
than a hairless elephant..All the elephants found in Siberia lived in a
warm climate. Which proves the bible's account of the flood is accurate.
ttt
You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant would die
of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put on a heavy fur
coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go outside in the 90+ degree
heat and stay there. See how long you last.
Hoofs are no insulation against the cold. Even deer, cows, goats etc. have
hooves in the warmest climates.
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
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| User: "Elijahovah" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
31 Jul 2007 09:35:14 PM |
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You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant would die
of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put on a heavy fur
coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go outside in the 90+ degree
heat and stay there. See how long you last.
Tropics have highlands.
When Maui is 90 in the valley it is 50 in the uplands.
It snows on Hawaii which means it reaches 32.
Are you a stupid scientist or what.
The equator has mountains that extended high
into cold air and even snow.
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| User: "The Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
01 Aug 2007 11:14:30 AM |
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"Elijahovah" <rschiller@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant would
die
of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put on a heavy fur
coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go outside in the 90+
degree
heat and stay there. See how long you last.
Tropics have highlands.
Which have their own fauna.
When Maui is 90 in the valley it is 50 in the uplands.
50 is far from freezing.
It snows on Hawaii which means it reaches 32.
Are you a stupid scientist or what.
You are another babbling bible thumping idiot.
The equator has mountains that extended high
into cold air and even snow.
So?
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| User: "LKYs Mother" |
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01 Aug 2007 12:30:07 PM |
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| User: "LKYs Mother" |
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01 Aug 2007 12:32:24 PM |
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| User: "David V." |
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01 Aug 2007 09:40:16 PM |
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LKYs Mother wrote:
tert...
Your test failed.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
01 Aug 2007 12:48:01 AM |
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Elijahovah wrote:
You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant
would die of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put
on a heavy fur coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go
outside in the 90+ degree heat and stay there. See how long you
last.
Tropics have highlands.
When Maui is 90 in the valley it is 50 in the uplands.
It snows on Hawaii which means it reaches 32.
Are you a stupid scientist or what.
The equator has mountains that extended high
into cold air and even snow.
Some do, some don't. Those highlands are high, limited in range and do not
support the vegation needed for such creatures.
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| User: "Darwin123" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
19 Aug 2007 09:29:51 AM |
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On Jul 31, 10:35 pm, Elijahovah <rschil...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
Tropics have highlands.
When Maui is 90 in the valley it is 50 in the uplands.
It snows on Hawaii which means it reaches 32.
Are you a stupid scientist or what.
The equator has mountains that extended high
into cold air and even snow.
So you just proved that natural selection is important, even in
the case of elephants. Yes, the environment changes as one goes up the
mountain. This is why as one goes up a mountain the animals and plants
change too. There are different zones that vary with altitude. This is
well known. I have hiked mountain trails andmany changes are evident,
even to me, as I go up. Not just temperature, but even the moisture
can change going from one part of the mountain to the other.
It was never clear even without this point how the existence of
elephants in ancient Antarctica disproves natural selection, or that
there was a Flood. Most of the continents today provide a wide range
of climates and more general environments. Furthermore, the fossil
record could extend over a wide range of time, during which there is a
climatic change. That elephants and mammoths were neighbors, in
geography or time, isn't exactly a challenge. There are many such
examples of related creatures living within proximity to each other,
in slightly different environments.
The following is my conjectures, which your statement raised. I
will assume for amusement that you got your facts exactly straight. I
assume that what was found was a baby elephantoid without hair.
Antarctica was supposedly further North than it is now because of
continental drift. If so, it would have experienced seasons. And it
has mountains, still observed by radar under the ice. That is one
major mechanism for climate change. So it the climate varied quite a
great deal.
So it is possible that they shed their fur in the summer. And as
in many animals, it is likely that the babies were born in one of the
warmer seasons. So how do you know that that baby elephant wasn't a
baby mammoth?
A human baby isn't nearly as hairy as a human adult. Yes, I know
some human babies are born with fine fur. But this is rare. Mammoths
could have been the same.
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| User: "meg" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
02 Aug 2007 10:13:10 AM |
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On Jul 31, 6:50 pm, "Rob. O'Connor" <rco...@invalid.com> wrote:
"Leonard Abbott" <leonard-abb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19157-46AFDB1D-553@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net...
If you really believe in ''survival of the fittest by natural
selection', A woolly elephant would have no better chance for survival
than a hairless elephant..All the elephants found in Siberia lived in a
warm climate. Which proves the bible's account of the flood is accurate.
ttt
You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant would die
of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put on a heavy fur
coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go outside in the 90+ degree
heat and stay there. See how long you last.
Hoofs are no insulation against the cold. Even deer, cows, goats etc. have
hooves in the warmest climates.
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
If you want to believe something bad enough, you will find evidence to
prove it.
Belief in the hear-after makes death less permanent and thus more
acceptable.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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| Title: Re: A baby elephant has been found frozen in Siberia. If it looksl... |
18 Aug 2007 09:08:49 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:13:10 -0000, meg <ekrubmeg@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 31, 6:50 pm, "Rob. O'Connor" <rco...@invalid.com> wrote:
"Leonard Abbott" <leonard-abb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19157-46AFDB1D-553@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net...
If you really believe in ''survival of the fittest by natural
selection', A woolly elephant would have no better chance for survival
than a hairless elephant..All the elephants found in Siberia lived in a
warm climate. Which proves the bible's account of the flood is accurate.
ttt
You are a complete uneducated babbling idiot. A woolly elephant would die
of heat stroke in the tropics. Prove it to yourself. Put on a heavy fur
coat and wrap your arms and legs in furs - then go outside in the 90+ degree
heat and stay there. See how long you last.
Hoofs are no insulation against the cold. Even deer, cows, goats etc. have
hooves in the warmest climates.
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
If you want to believe something bad enough, you will find evidence to
prove it.
Belief in the hear-after makes death less permanent and thus more
acceptable.
No it doesn't. What you believe has absolutely no effect on death.
Death is permanent, by definition.
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