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"*G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*" |
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07 Apr 2005 08:35:38 PM |
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Re: A great man of *EVIL* |
Juggernaut wrote:
"Sam R" <mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> wrote in
<d3300b$g17$1@news.freedom2surf.net>:
What would a christian leader have against communism?
Uh, the oppression it causes.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
I'm certain that you are knowledgeable of the *many*
atrocities of the Catholics *EVIL* religious leaders,
Perhaps you could explain the links below...
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3671464.stm
Being an advocate for *EVIL*, this should be easy for you!
GOD'S CREATION ?
...That was my only sin...
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| User: "Christopher Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: A great man of *EVIL* |
07 Apr 2005 11:29:15 PM |
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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.religion.christian-teen.]
(did all those groups need to be added?)
GODS* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R* showered this wisdom of the ages upon us:
[name edited to allow me to post. For original insert spaces and
splats in "GODS"]
Juggernaut wrote:
"Sam R" <mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> wrote in
<d3300b$g17$1@news.freedom2surf.net>:
What would a christian leader have against communism?
Uh, the oppression it causes.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
I'm certain that you are knowledgeable of the *many*
atrocities of the Catholics *EVIL* religious leaders,
You speak as though they are directives handed down the power structure
from the top. Except for a crusade (which is well into history), I am
unware of when this is the case.
Perhaps you could explain the links below...
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
Umm... John Paul II wasn't Pope at the time.
As far as the involvement of Catholics at all, I cannot say how free
they were, not having been alive, in Germany, or clergy at the time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3671464.stm
As the article said, the Church cannot be held responsible for the
actions of every one of its members. I'm sure if found guilty, the
priest involved will be defrocked. However the story didn't say he was
guilty so until that point, what do you want done?
Being an advocate for *EVIL*, this should be easy for you!
Playing the Right Wing (TM) card? I suppose it's only fair that the
Religious Right gets their own "*EVIL*" medicine handed to them, so go
sic 'em.
--
Christopher Nelson - Chris AT cavein DOT org
Knight Errant of the Most Radiant Order of the Shield
The Hollywood tradition I like best is called "sucking up to the stars."
-- Johnny Carson
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| User: "C-R-E-A-T-O-R of G-O-D" |
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| Title: Re: A great man of *EVIL* |
08 Apr 2005 02:54:44 AM |
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Christopher Nelson wrote:
===== snipped ===
More about rogue clergy in the Rwandan genocide. Do you seriously
think that genocide is condoned by the Church in any fashion? Top
officials don't even support our "war for freedom" in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
==== Denials snipper activated ===
........
......
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)... EVER !!
--- CHRISTIANS EVIL DEEDS ---
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm. Let's see. The Crusades. The Inquisiton(s). Puritan
prosecution of the Quakers. The Albigensian Crusade. Protestant witch
burnings in the 17th century. The persecution of Jews during the plague
outbreaks of the 14th century. The murder of the Jews by the
flagellants during that period. The murder of Hypatia by Christians.
The outbreaks of violence during the Arian controversy. The violence of
the Old Testament....
Don't you read history either?
Christians leaders kill for reasons of establishing dominance or for greed,
territoriality, and xenophobia. It's not atheism that drives the murder. But
theism drove the killing of countless people during the Reformation. Just
the 30 years war which ended the wars of religion reduced the population of
Germany from 18 million to 4 million. There weren't enough people for
farming. Sweden, France, and Italy also suffered losses.
The Children's Crusade and other acts of insanity were only driven by
religious fanaticism.
Hitler cited his Christian beliefs for hating Jews.
GOD'S CREATION ?
...That was my only sin...
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| User: "Christopher Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: A great man of *EVIL* |
08 Apr 2005 03:37:51 AM |
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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.religion.christian-teen.]
C-R-E-A-T-O-R of G-O-D showered this wisdom of the ages upon us:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
===== snipped ===
More about rogue clergy in the Rwandan genocide. Do you seriously
think that genocide is condoned by the Church in any fashion? Top
officials don't even support our "war for freedom" in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
==== Denials snipper activated ===
.......
.....
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)... EVER !!
--- CHRISTIANS EVIL DEEDS ---
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm. Let's see. The Crusades. The Inquisiton(s). Puritan
prosecution of the Quakers. The Albigensian Crusade. Protestant witch
burnings in the 17th century. The persecution of Jews during the plague
outbreaks of the 14th century. The murder of the Jews by the
flagellants during that period. The murder of Hypatia by Christians.
The outbreaks of violence during the Arian controversy. The violence of
the Old Testament....
/me wonders if God's Creator has noticed I'm only playing devil advocate
for so long.
Don't you read history either?
Yes, I do. I only have so much free time though, and it's currently
used up studying Computer Information Services.
Christians leaders kill for reasons of establishing dominance or for greed,
territoriality, and xenophobia.
Agreed.
It's not atheism that drives the murder.
Never claimed it was. Atheists get a bum rap wherever they go.
But
theism drove the killing of countless people during the Reformation. Just
the 30 years war which ended the wars of religion reduced the population of
Germany from 18 million to 4 million. There weren't enough people for
farming. Sweden, France, and Italy also suffered losses.
Wow, didn't realise it was that bad.
The Children's Crusade and other acts of insanity were only driven by
religious fanaticism.
The Children's Crusade was just tragic, as were other similiar acts.
Hitler cited his Christian beliefs for hating Jews.
Hitler's Christianity or aChristianity is oft debated, I haven't enough
info to make a decision.
--
Christopher Nelson - Chris AT cavein DOT org
Knight Errant of the Most Radiant Order of the Shield
Some settling may occur.
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