Religions > Atheism > Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does...
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07 Aug 2006 03:40:15 PM |
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Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does... |
In article <as35d25ei88bt8j6h8cneu1ltviahi5civ@4ax.com>, The Nolalu Barn
Owl
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:41:49 -0400, joe <Bcfnp@bocki.com> wrote:
contrary to the position held by many, God does NOT love everybody...
He MUST! Everyone, absolutely everyone gets eternal life. Only a
loving God would do such a thing.
Perhaps, but that does not necesssarily mean that God loves everybody,
especially everything that everybody may choose to do.
Malachi 1:3* And I [God] hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his
heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Romans 9:13* As it is written, Jacob have I [God] loved, but Esau have I hated.
Eternal life appears to be a subject not covered here.
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May God Bless You
Michael
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07 Aug 2006 05:02:09 PM |
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"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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In article <as35d25ei88bt8j6h8cneu1ltviahi5civ@4ax.com>, The Nolalu Barn
Owl
<gordie@nolalu.on.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:41:49 -0400, joe <Bcfnp@bocki.com> wrote:
contrary to the position held by many, God does NOT love everybody...
If I may be so bold: How do *you*, personally know that with certainty. He
hasn't even been proven to exist, you know. He' no more 'real' than Santa
Claus is.
He MUST!
Based on *what* is this dramatic assertion? Just where do you get your 'God'
info from? The back of a cereal box?
Everyone, absolutely everyone gets eternal life.
Again. How can you *possibly* assert what you're asserting?
Only a
loving God would do such a thing.
'Only', nothing. You're only speculating here. No proof = BS.
Perhaps, but that does not necesssarily mean that God loves everybody,
Well make up your mind. What did 'God' tell *you* about all this? Or are you
just trying to 'fool' us?
especially everything that everybody may choose to do.
Malachi 1:3*
And my telephone book says ...
And I [God] hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his
heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Now were those Jewish 'dragons' or Assyrian 'dragons'?
Romans 9:13*
My TV guide says, ...
As it is written, Jacob have I [God] loved, but Esau have I hated.
Eternal life appears to be a subject not covered here.
Awwwwwww. Then why did you cite these passages?
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May God Bless You
Michael
Who? Oh *him*! Michael, did you know there was a 'momma' God who has gotten
the shaft in all this. Think about it. 'God' is the 'Father'. Jesus/God is
the 'Son'. Where's Mommy/God? How could there be a 'son' without the
'mother'? And no no no no no! No, 'God works in mysterious ways,' or Momma
God was killed in a cosmic car crash. No. Both 'Father' *and* 'Son' have
shamefully their neglected Wife/Mother and 'Shamefully Neglected 'God'. And
I think it's downright inexcusable and disgraceful, if you ask me! It's
about *time* you start singing the praises of Momma God you ingrates. Where
do you think Jesus/God would be without her? What? Did she do something
*that* revolting that she had to be kept in the 'closet' (so to speak) all
this time? Disgusting, really.
Greywolf
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| User: "bam" |
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07 Aug 2006 07:00:34 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
If I may be so bold: How do *you*, personally know that with certainty. He
hasn't even been proven to exist, you know. He' no more 'real' than Santa
Claus is.
Tough to explain how you got here without God. Tough to explain a microbe.
BAM
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07 Aug 2006 08:50:13 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
If I may be so bold: How do *you*, personally know that with certainty.
He hasn't even been proven to exist, you know. He' no more 'real' than
Santa Claus is.
Tough to explain how you got here without God. Tough to explain a microbe.
BAM
But obviously not as tough as proving there's a 'God'. *Especially* after
declaring that there *definitely* is one. Where's the proof? Where is the
proof that 'Michael' talks to a 'God' -- and that he talks *back*? Haven't
provided any. I wonder why?
And BTW: It is *not* 'tough' to explain how I got here 'without God'. And
it's not 'tough' to explain microbes. I suggest you go out and buy some good
books that deal with the evolution of man. Or watch some quality
science-related television programming -- or do you avoid those?
And try answering the questions and 'proving' some assertions instead of
answering a question with a question.
Greywolf
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| User: "bam" |
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07 Aug 2006 11:29:14 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
If I may be so bold: How do *you*, personally know that with certainty.
He hasn't even been proven to exist, you know. He' no more 'real' than
Santa Claus is.
Tough to explain how you got here without God. Tough to explain a
microbe.
BAM
But obviously not as tough as proving there's a 'God'. *Especially* after
declaring that there *definitely* is one. Where's the proof? Where is the
proof that 'Michael' talks to a 'God' -- and that he talks *back*? Haven't
provided any. I wonder why?
And BTW: It is *not* 'tough' to explain how I got here 'without God'. And
it's not 'tough' to explain microbes. I suggest you go out and buy some
good books that deal with the evolution of man. Or watch some quality
science-related television programming -- or do you avoid those?
And try answering the questions and 'proving' some assertions instead of
answering a question with a question.
This is what I get for responding to a moron. He can't prove how life
appeared on earth, he can't prove where earth came from, he can't prove
there isn't an afterlife, but for some queer reason, he thinks he's smart.
BAM
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08 Aug 2006 12:36:12 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
If I may be so bold: How do *you*, personally know that with certainty.
He hasn't even been proven to exist, you know. He' no more 'real' than
Santa Claus is.
Tough to explain how you got here without God. Tough to explain a
microbe.
BAM
But obviously not as tough as proving there's a 'God'. *Especially* after
declaring that there *definitely* is one. Where's the proof? Where is the
proof that 'Michael' talks to a 'God' -- and that he talks *back*?
Haven't provided any. I wonder why?
And BTW: It is *not* 'tough' to explain how I got here 'without God'. And
it's not 'tough' to explain microbes. I suggest you go out and buy some
good books that deal with the evolution of man. Or watch some quality
science-related television programming -- or do you avoid those?
And try answering the questions and 'proving' some assertions instead of
answering a question with a question.
This is what I get for responding to a moron.
Well thank you for noticing, Professor. I, obviously, do not have *your*
command and knowledge of the supernatural. I hope to learn more about this
mysterious realm using *your* expertise in the field.
He can't prove how life
appeared on earth,
Well I'll take a stab at saying how it *didn't* come into existence. It
wasn't 'created' by a supernatural deity composed of one 'primary' entity
and two to three 'sub-entities' commonly known as 'God'. If I'm wrong,
please provide me with proof of it.
he can't prove where earth came from,
What? Too lazy to pick up a science book and *read* it?
he can't prove
there isn't an afterlife,
Funny. I don't believe anyone has ever proven that there *is* one. Why
should I try and 'prove' something for which there is no evidence? Would you
care to 'prove' that there is one? Isn't it up to to the person who say's
'there *is*' to prove 'there is'?
but for some queer reason, he thinks he's smart.
I think you've got me mixed up with someone else. I don't recall saying I'm
'smart' anywhere in this thread. And *you* never provided any *real* answers
to my questions, did you?
Greywolf
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| User: "bam" |
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08 Aug 2006 08:55:25 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
He can't prove how life
appeared on earth,
Well I'll take a stab at saying how it *didn't* come into existence. It
wasn't 'created' by a supernatural deity composed of one 'primary' entity
and two to three 'sub-entities' commonly known as 'God'. If I'm wrong,
please provide me with proof of it.
That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
he can't prove where earth came from,
What? Too lazy to pick up a science book and *read* it?
Oh yeah - read a science book.
he can't prove
there isn't an afterlife,
Funny. I don't believe anyone has ever proven that there *is* one. Why
should I try and 'prove' something for which there is no evidence? Would
you care to 'prove' that there is one? Isn't it up to to the person who
say's 'there *is*' to prove 'there is'?
You still don't know yourself. I believe there's an afterlife; you believe
there is not. Neither can prove either.
BAM
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| User: "DaRula" |
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08 Aug 2006 12:00:09 PM |
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
And your "god" is exactly like this invisible pink unicorn.
he can't prove where earth came from,
What? Too lazy to pick up a science book and *read* it?
Oh yeah - read a science book.
he can't prove
there isn't an afterlife,
Funny. I don't believe anyone has ever proven that there *is* one. Why
should I try and 'prove' something for which there is no evidence? Would
you care to 'prove' that there is one? Isn't it up to to the person who
say's 'there *is*' to prove 'there is'?
You still don't know yourself. I believe there's an afterlife; you believe
there is not. Neither can prove either.
Ah... no no no. The burden of proof is always on the positive side. I
can say that you are currently sitting on an elephant but whose job is
it to prove it? I can say that a Yellow Coloured Rhinocerous exists
but who has to prove it? The one who claims its existence or the one
who denies it.
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| User: "bam" |
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08 Aug 2006 09:19:08 PM |
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
You still don't know yourself. I believe there's an afterlife; you
believe
there is not. Neither can prove either.
Ah... no no no. The burden of proof is always on the positive side.
I
can say that you are currently sitting on an elephant but whose job is
it to prove it? I can say that a Yellow Coloured Rhinocerous exists
but who has to prove it? The one who claims its existence or the one
who denies it.
You still don't get it. You never will.
Once upon a time there was a Christian who said, "I believe in God".
Then there was an atheist who said "There ain't no God."
The Christian said, "I believe you're wrong, and you can't prove there's no
God."
And the atheist said, "Prove there's a God."
And the Christians said, "I'm just telling you what I believe - you're the
one who positively denies God's existence. So I need not prove anything -
but you must prove there's no God because you said there was none."
BAM
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| User: "Steve O" |
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09 Aug 2006 12:02:49 AM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
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09 Aug 2006 10:17:14 AM |
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
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09 Aug 2006 12:25:22 PM |
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
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09 Aug 2006 03:37:43 PM |
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know what a
Creed is?
BAM
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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09 Aug 2006 10:08:20 PM |
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like
me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World,
life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which
plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed events.
The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Klazmon.
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09 Aug 2006 11:43:34 PM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like
me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World,
life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which
plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed events.
The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written it.
Throughout the Middle Ages it was generally believed that the Apostles, on
the day of Pentecost, while still under the direct inspiration of the Holy
Ghost, composed our present Creed between them, each of the Apostles
contributing one of the twelve articles. This legend dates back to the sixth
century (see Pseudo-Augustine in Migne, P.L., XXXIX, 2189, and Pirminius,
ibid., LXXXIX, 1034), and it is foreshadowed still earlier in a sermon
attributed to St. Ambrose (Migne, P.L., XVII, 671; Kattenbusch, I, 81),
which takes notice that the Creed was "pieced together by twelve separate
workmen". About the same date (c. 400) Rufinus (Migne, P.L., XXI, 337) gives
a detailed account of the composition of the Creed, which account he
professes to have received from earlier ages (tradunt majores nostri).
Although he does not explicitly assign each article to the authorship of a
separate Apostle, he states that it was the joint work of all, and implies
that the deliberation took place on the day of Pentecost.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01629a.htm
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be
like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the
World, life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink
unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed
events. The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
Where do you think the term Nicean creed comes from. Look up 'First Council
of Nicea". The creed was specifically written to spell out the fact that
the followers of Bishop Arius were heretics. If you don't believe me, read
your own churches encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written it.
No apostles ever heard of the Nicean creed. They had been dead for over two
hundred and fifty years before it was invented
Klazmon.
<SNIP mythological nonsense.>
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be
like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the
World, life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink
unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed
events. The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
Where do you think the term Nicean creed comes from. Look up 'First
Council
of Nicea". The creed was specifically written to spell out the fact that
the followers of Bishop Arius were heretics. If you don't believe me, read
your own churches encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written it.
No apostles ever heard of the Nicean creed. They had been dead for over
two
hundred and fifty years before it was invented
Knock knock. Hello. Who's talking about the Nicean Creed? I said the
Apostle's Creed. If you want to talk about the Nicean Creed, well then,
start a separate post.
BAM
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be
like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the
World, life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink
unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed
events. The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
Where do you think the term Nicean creed comes from. Look up 'First
Council
of Nicea". The creed was specifically written to spell out the fact
that the followers of Bishop Arius were heretics. If you don't believe
me, read your own churches encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written
it.
No apostles ever heard of the Nicean creed. They had been dead for over
two
hundred and fifty years before it was invented
Knock knock. Hello. Who's talking about the Nicean Creed? I said the
Apostle's Creed. If you want to talk about the Nicean Creed, well then,
start a separate post.
The term apostle's creed is a lame attempt to give gravitas to the
councils pronouncements. They knew they had little authority over many of
the bishops. It didn't work anyway and they had to resort to force and the
threat of force. Useful to have the emperor on you side in that case.
Klazmon.
BAM
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10 Aug 2006 10:01:46 PM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be
like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the
World, life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink
unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed
events. The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
Where do you think the term Nicean creed comes from. Look up 'First
Council
of Nicea". The creed was specifically written to spell out the fact
that the followers of Bishop Arius were heretics. If you don't believe
me, read your own churches encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written
it.
No apostles ever heard of the Nicean creed. They had been dead for over
two
hundred and fifty years before it was invented
Knock knock. Hello. Who's talking about the Nicean Creed? I said the
Apostle's Creed. If you want to talk about the Nicean Creed, well then,
start a separate post.
The term apostle's creed is a lame attempt to give gravitas to the
councils pronouncements. They knew they had little authority over many of
the bishops. It didn't work anyway and they had to resort to force and the
threat of force. Useful to have the emperor on you side in that case.
Sure - just shoot your mouth off - don't let history get in your way. Just
paint it whatever color you like.
BAM
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10 Aug 2006 10:46:29 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by
the mere condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It
would be like me saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the
World, life, and After Life was created by an invisible pink
unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you
know what a Creed is?
The creed was written over three hundred years after the claimed
events. The writers of the creed only had hearsay of unknown
origin.
Written?
Written?????
Who said anything about "written"?
Where do you think the term Nicean creed comes from. Look up 'First
Council
of Nicea". The creed was specifically written to spell out the fact
that the followers of Bishop Arius were heretics. If you don't
believe me, read your own churches encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
I've said the Apostle's Creed a million times and never once written
it.
No apostles ever heard of the Nicean creed. They had been dead for
over two
hundred and fifty years before it was invented
Knock knock. Hello. Who's talking about the Nicean Creed? I said the
Apostle's Creed. If you want to talk about the Nicean Creed, well
then, start a separate post.
The term apostle's creed is a lame attempt to give gravitas to the
councils pronouncements. They knew they had little authority over many
of the bishops. It didn't work anyway and they had to resort to force
and the threat of force. Useful to have the emperor on you side in that
case.
Sure - just shoot your mouth off - don't let history get in your way.
Just paint it whatever color you like.
Read your own church's documents. Even as full of spin and biased as they
are. They were still plenty good enough to prove you wrong. Does it burn?
LOL.
Klamzon.
BAM
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11 Aug 2006 08:05:50 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote
Sure - just shoot your mouth off - don't let history get in your way.
Just paint it whatever color you like.
Read your own church's documents. Even as full of spin and biased as they
are. They were still plenty good enough to prove you wrong. Does it burn?
LOL.
No, in fact your humor tickles.
BAM
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13 Aug 2006 05:31:01 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote
Sure - just shoot your mouth off - don't let history get in your way.
Just paint it whatever color you like.
Read your own church's documents. Even as full of spin and biased as
they are. They were still plenty good enough to prove you wrong. Does
it burn?
LOL.
No, in fact your humor tickles.
BAM
Poor Bam.
Klazmon.
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10 Aug 2006 12:32:19 AM |
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bam wrote:
[snip]
Throughout the Middle Ages it was generally believed that the Apostles, on
the day of Pentecost, while still under the direct inspiration of the Holy
Ghost,
These would be the same scuzballs who burned
women and children at the stake, who after a
few hundred years gave us pedophile priests?
Methinks it was the same holy spirits that a
little anti-semite named Mel is inspired by.
(Did they have Tequila back then?)
composed our present Creed between them, each of the Apostles
contributing one of the twelve articles. This legend dates back to the sixth
century (see Pseudo-Augustine in Migne, P.L., XXXIX, 2189, and Pirminius,
ibid., LXXXIX, 1034), and it is foreshadowed still earlier in a sermon
attributed to St. Ambrose (Migne, P.L., XVII, 671; Kattenbusch, I, 81),
which takes notice that the Creed was "pieced together by twelve separate
workmen". About the same date (c. 400) Rufinus (Migne, P.L., XXI, 337) gives
a detailed account of the composition of the Creed, which account he
professes to have received from earlier ages (tradunt majores nostri).
Although he does not explicitly assign each article to the authorship of a
separate Apostle, he states that it was the joint work of all, and implies
that the deliberation took place on the day of Pentecost.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01629a.htm
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09 Aug 2006 04:55:56 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know what
a Creed is?
BAM
I had those creeds pushed onto me all the way through Catholic Grammar
school.
Second question, if you don't know it, but you simply believe it, then WHY
do you believe it?
That whole rising from the dead thing doesn't make any sense at all.
Even if it was possible, why bother being dead for three days?
What the hell is the point of that?
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09 Aug 2006 08:08:53 PM |
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"Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays
dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know what
a Creed is?
BAM
I had those creeds pushed onto me all the way through Catholic Grammar
school.
Second question, if you don't know it, but you simply believe it, then WHY
do you believe it?
That whole rising from the dead thing doesn't make any sense at all.
Even if it was possible, why bother being dead for three days?
What the hell is the point of that?
I owe no explanations to an outcast and an infidel. You have nothing but
thorns and bad road to look forward to.
BAM
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10 Aug 2006 12:22:06 AM |
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bam wrote:
"Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays
dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know what
a Creed is?
BAM
I had those creeds pushed onto me all the way through Catholic Grammar
school.
Second question, if you don't know it, but you simply believe it, then WHY
do you believe it?
That whole rising from the dead thing doesn't make any sense at all.
Even if it was possible, why bother being dead for three days?
What the hell is the point of that?
I owe no explanations to an outcast and an infidel.
You sound like a fucking raghead. Are you going to
strap bombs on your body and blow something up? If
you are, make sure you were the only person there.
You have nothing but
thorns and bad road to look forward to.
BAM
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10 Aug 2006 03:44:49 AM |
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"Sniper" <sniper@gotcha.com> wrote in message
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bam wrote:
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"DaRula" <sasidharpv@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's not how it works. You do not get to be *correct* by the
mere
condition that you cannot be proven *wrong*. It would be like me
saying,
"Since you can't disprove God, He exists." Get it?
Which is what you are saying since you have no proof for the
existence
of God. It is like me saying that the Earth, the World, life, and
After Life was created by an invisible pink unicorn which plays
dice.
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Well, prove yours.
How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed? Do you know
what a Creed is?
BAM
I had those creeds pushed onto me all the way through Catholic Grammar
school.
Second question, if you don't know it, but you simply believe it, then
WHY do you believe it?
That whole rising from the dead thing doesn't make any sense at all.
Even if it was possible, why bother being dead for three days?
What the hell is the point of that?
I owe no explanations to an outcast and an infidel.
Translation - You are unable to answer the question.
You sound like a fucking raghead. Are you going to
strap bombs on your body and blow something up? If
you are, make sure you were the only person there.
Bam certainly does seen to have the potential to be dangerous.
You have nothing but thorns and bad road to look forward to.
I can assure you that the area I live in is fully landscaped and there are
several road improvement initiatives in the area.
But what has that got to do with the subject?
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240
"Apparently, as I understand it , I am supposed to repent for being the way
that God made me, and then God will save me from God's wrath?"
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does... |
12 Aug 2006 01:54:53 AM |
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bam wrote:
"Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
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How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed?
Wasn't he the guy who kicked the ***** of Rocky?
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does... |
12 Aug 2006 10:17:21 AM |
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"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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bam wrote:
"Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
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How do you KNOW that Jesus rose from the dead?
I don't. I believe it. Ever hear of The Apostle's Creed?
Wasn't he the guy who kicked the ***** of Rocky?
You're getting warm.........
BAM
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does... |
09 Aug 2006 02:35:58 PM |
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bam wrote:
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Tu quoque
Argument ad hominem
INVALID
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: A loving God doesn't send sinner's to hell... a just God does... |
09 Aug 2006 03:38:12 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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bam wrote:
Yes, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead!!
Harry Potter can fly around on a stick.
Your point being?
You certainly have none.
BAM
Tu quoque
Argument ad hominem
INVALID
Funny that you should use Catholic terms when it suits you........
BAM
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