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"duke" |
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21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 AM |
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Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
On Jan 21, 2:59=A0am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
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If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
A&E decided they know better than God and told him "no". We are faced
with the same choices today - God (of the spirit) or me (of the
flesh).
A&E, and you and I, are faced with that choice. There is no such
thing as once saved, always saved.
Choose wisely.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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29 Jan 2008 09:50:49 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Jan 28, 12:11 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 28, 7:16 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 2:55 pm,snex<s...@comcast.net> wrote:
He's already spoken, and left instructions. It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
says YOU. but remember, i dont believe YOU.
I'm only repeating what God said.
says YOU. but remember, i dont believe YOU.
I'm only repeating what God said.
===>LIAR!
You are parroting what some other MEN have said or written. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Jan 2008 07:17:43 AM |
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On Jan 29, 9:50=A0pm, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth>
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duke wrote:
says YOU. but remember, i dont believe YOU.
I'm only repeating what God said. =A0
=3D=3D=3D>LIAR!
You are parroting what some other MEN have said or written. -- L.
Jesus is God become man.
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| User: "Richard Anacker" |
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30 Jan 2008 09:17:40 AM |
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duke , 01.30.2008:
Jesus is God become man.
no evidence noted.
greets
richie
X'Posted to: alt.bible,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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30 Jan 2008 02:50:14 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:50 pm, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth>
wrote:
duke wrote:
says YOU. but remember, i dont believe YOU.
I'm only repeating what God said.
===>LIAR!
You are parroting what some other MEN have said or written. -- L.
Jesus is God become man.
===>There never was such a person.
The "Jesus" of the Gospels is no more real than the
Wizard of OZ. -- L.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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27 Jan 2008 05:04:55 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:53:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<be4b560e-d20b-456d-b3d9-fbee96c53d3e@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 2:33 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
He's already spoken, and left instructions. It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Jan 2008 05:19:06 PM |
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On Jan 27, 5:04=A0pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
He's already spoken, and left instructions. =A0It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
ALL evidence to be found demands the existence of God.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:47:29 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:19:06 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<cf00ce97-5027-4921-a82b-ceb216d910c4@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 5:04 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
He's already spoken, and left instructions. It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
ALL evidence to be found demands the existence of God.
I don't believe you.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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28 Jan 2008 08:25:39 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:47:29 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:19:06 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<cf00ce97-5027-4921-a82b-ceb216d910c4@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 5:04 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
He's already spoken, and left instructions. It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
ALL evidence to be found demands the existence of God.
I don't believe you.
Worse than that- he's lying through his teeth. Because nothing has
been demonstrated to need a god.
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:52:51 AM |
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On Jan 27, 5:04=A0pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what he=
wants.
He's already spoken, and left instructions. =A0It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
God has spoken.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:47:17 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:52:51 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<83ecb9ad-0b68-4d43-98b5-b560f48ad6f7@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 5:04 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what he wants.
He's already spoken, and left instructions. It's up to you to follow
them or pick up your ticket to hell.
You have no evidence to back up your claim.
God has spoken.
I don't believe you. More precisely, I don't believe what you claim
about God because you have no evidence to support your claims.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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27 Jan 2008 03:28:39 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<snex@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
--
Creation is the stage upon which God is revealed
His redemptive plan. We live out our part in the
history of redemption.
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| User: "Pasture Dive" |
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28 Jan 2008 07:39:33 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
Idiots that "proselytize" deserve ALL the ridicule that can be
must-tyrd...they're the scum at the BOTTOM of the scum pond; snake oil
salesmen would be considered scholars, gentlemen and high society comapred to
jesusFreak pushers (LIARS)...now back to the caves with your dumb fucking
ilk.
Great link BTW > > > --------------------vvvvvv------------------
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
Great link BTW > > > --------------------^^^^^^------------------
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At the RNC incest is priority-one because that's how the GOP got started, all
the way back to the Virgin Birth ;)
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| User: "snex" |
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27 Jan 2008 03:30:40 PM |
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On Jan 27, 3:28 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
im sure that the almighty needs neither you nor duke to discuss for
him.
--
Creation is the stage upon which God is revealed
His redemptive plan. We live out our part in the
history of redemption.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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27 Jan 2008 04:34:39 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:30:40 -0800 (PST), snex
<snex@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 3:28 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
im sure that the almighty needs neither you nor duke
to discuss for him.
The same one you claim doesn't exist? And even after
I agreed with your tone, which obviously implied that
it wasn't a real answer? Oh, so you are an idiot!
Goodbye, fool!
And don't bother with Mat 5:22. I'm sure you're too
stupid and evil to notice, but it speaks of saying it to
a brother and you are not my brother/sister and so,
what applies to you, is Psalm 14:1! Sorry to take
your opportunity to snicker at me, while claiming
to be the innocent one, but hey, that's life! :)
But you go ahead and make sure to respond with
that verse anyway the next time A Christian calls
you a fool, since truth isn't what you're interested
in anyway! <chuckle>
--
"I am not permitted to let my love be so merciful
as to tolerate and endure false doctrine. When
faith and doctrine are concerned and endangered,
neither love nor patience are in order... For
a defective life does not destroy Christendom,
but exercises it. However, defective doctrine
and false faith ruin everything. Therefore, when
these are concerned, neither toleration nor mercy
are in order, but only anger, dispute and
destruction - to be sure, only with the Word
of God as our weapon." - Martin Luther
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| User: "snex" |
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27 Jan 2008 04:36:42 PM |
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On Jan 27, 4:34 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:30:40 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 3:28 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
im sure that the almighty needs neither you nor duke
to discuss for him.
The same one you claim doesn't exist? And even after
I agreed with your tone, which obviously implied that
it wasn't a real answer? Oh, so you are an idiot!
you claim he does exist. if he does, then let him come tell me what he
wants.
Goodbye, fool!
And don't bother with Mat 5:22. I'm sure you're too
stupid and evil to notice, but it speaks of saying it to
a brother and you are not my brother/sister and so,
what applies to you, is Psalm 14:1! Sorry to take
your opportunity to snicker at me, while claiming
to be the innocent one, but hey, that's life! :)
But you go ahead and make sure to respond with
that verse anyway the next time A Christian calls
you a fool, since truth isn't what you're interested
in anyway! <chuckle>
--
"I am not permitted to let my love be so merciful
as to tolerate and endure false doctrine. When
faith and doctrine are concerned and endangered,
neither love nor patience are in order... For
a defective life does not destroy Christendom,
but exercises it. However, defective doctrine
and false faith ruin everything. Therefore, when
these are concerned, neither toleration nor mercy
are in order, but only anger, dispute and
destruction - to be sure, only with the Word
of God as our weapon." - Martin Luther
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Jan 2008 07:21:33 AM |
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On Jan 27, 4:34=A0pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:30:40 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 3:28 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<s...@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. =A0I'm not your judge. =A0God i=
s.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of =
my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. =A0If you want to spend all eternity burnin=
g in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
im sure that the almighty needs neither you nor duke
to discuss for him.
The same one you claim doesn't exist? =A0And even after
I agreed with your tone, which obviously implied that
it wasn't a real answer? =A0Oh, so you are an idiot!
Goodbye, fool!
And don't bother with Mat 5:22. =A0I'm sure you're too
stupid and evil to notice, but it speaks of saying it to
a brother and you are not my brother/sister and so,
what applies to you, is Psalm 14:1! =A0Sorry to take
your opportunity to snicker at me, while claiming
to be the innocent one, but hey, that's life! :)
But you go ahead and make sure to respond with
that verse anyway the next time A Christian calls
you a fool, since truth isn't what you're interested
in anyway! <chuckle>
You can't keep your promises very long, can you dave. This was from a
previous post "We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will
warn you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule."
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Jan 2008 07:19:23 AM |
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On Jan 27, 3:28=A0pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, he doesn't interfer. =A0If you want to spend all eternity burning i=
n
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
I think you should start a new thread for discussion of this item.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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27 Jan 2008 05:05:48 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:28:39 -0500, in alt.atheism
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in
<eqtpp3hqoadi6tq6igfdbpc0e6t1gtjbh8@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<snex@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
You are very intolerant of anyone who points out any falsehoods you
tell.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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27 Jan 2008 03:39:02 PM |
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Pastor Dave said the following on 1/27/2008 1:28 PM:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:33 -0800 (PST), snex
<snex@comcast.net> said the following:
On Jan 27, 2:24 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
if he doesnt interfere, then he cant possibly expect me to know what
he wants.
The answer you were given (no offense to the poster),
seems to me, to be based on a lack of having an answer.
We can discuss this issue if you'd like to, but I will warn
you that I am very intolerant of folks whose purpose is
to ridicule.
"Another idiot!"
"You are a stupid man."
"Hey stupid, that's what I said."
And that was just yesterday and today.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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27 Jan 2008 05:04:35 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:24:59 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<b3ab23ed-0390-4b8b-9f06-320af80f3c06@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 12:29 pm, snex <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You can tell me no all you want. I'm not your judge. God is.
and since god has never once showed up to personally give me any
instructions, i feel confident that he has no problem with any of my
behavior
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
Duke, I have as much evidence that you will be the only one who spends
all eternity burning in hell as you do for any of your self-righteous
claims about others. Remember that Paul talked about faith, hope and
charity, not smugness, hubris and arrogance.
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:54:41 AM |
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On Jan 27, 5:04=A0pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Oh, he doesn't interfer. =A0If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
Duke, I have as much evidence that you will be the only one who spends all=
eternity burning in hell as you do for any of your self-righteous
claims about others. Remember that Paul talked about faith, hope and
charity, not smugness, hubris and arrogance.
Actually you don't. The Son of God was pretty clear about that one.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:48:09 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:54:41 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<b8d41535-714c-4e1c-8344-c0a68fedd664@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
On Jan 27, 5:04 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Oh, he doesn't interfer. If you want to spend all eternity burning in
hell, he'll grant you your wish.
Duke, I have as much evidence that you will be the only one who spends all eternity burning in hell as you do for any of your self-righteous
claims about others. Remember that Paul talked about faith, hope and
charity, not smugness, hubris and arrogance.
Actually you don't. The Son of God was pretty clear about that one.
I don't believe you.
Once again, you make assertions that you cannot back up.
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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25 Jan 2008 09:10:18 PM |
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On Jan 24, 7:15=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. =A0To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. =A0And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. =A0And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
--Billy
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26 Jan 2008 10:12:44 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
The good news is not good news at all if a person thinks they're
"good" compared to the next person (or even compared to
Christians), but fails to realize that's irrelevant:
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man
should boast."
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJVR
what only matters is how "good" we are compared to God's idea of
good, and on that account we all fall miserably short
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 3:23 KJVR
(we're liars (having told lies here and there to be sure),
thieves (having stolen something no matter how small, even if we
had intended to return it to the person or company we took it
from), we use God's name in vain, and we have all no doubt lusted
after someone, which makes us adulterers at heart.
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt
not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh
on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her
already in his heart."
Matthew 5:27-28 KJVR
On that account, we would stand before God guilty of breaking His
Law, and would be cast into hell.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal
life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23 KJVR
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers,
and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and
brimstone: which is the second death."
Revelation 21:8 KJVR
We all need the saving grace of Jesus Christ, and that grace is
available to whosoever shall call on His name.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
saved."
Romans 10:13 KJVR
So no, you are fully capable of repenting and calling on Christ.
And it's God's wish that everyone do so, but He's not going to
force the choice on people.
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count
slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any
should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
2 Peter 3:9 KJVR
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
--Billy
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27 Jan 2008 01:10:28 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ. Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything. I need
logic and evidence. Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is useful
and believing in Jesus? The above paragraph indicates that you do not.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:50:36 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ.
Well, then perhaps you could go on a quest to try to disprove all
the recorded documents of His existence.
Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything.
Actually I could not make myself believe either for a great many
years, having never believed. I, too, needed logic and evidence.
But by the grace of God, I now believe! Perhaps my sincere desire
to know the truth played a part, who knows. But I get the
impression if I was determined to reject Him, as if I was able to
see everything there is to see about life, I might very well be
just as lost and just as headed towards destruction as I used to
be.
John 9:41 KJVR Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin
remaineth.
And now my need for logic and evidence is clearly satisfied by
the truth of God. The genius of God in His Word is amazing! I can
only ask that you keep an open mind that you might find the
evidence and logic you seek, and take another look at all the
evidence around you, ignoring for a moment all the claims you've
been fed from macro evolutionists.
I wish you well!
I need
logic and evidence. Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is useful
and believing in Jesus? The above paragraph indicates that you do not.
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| User: "thomas p." |
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29 Jan 2008 01:02:27 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bjtsp3hnfackj1r37k6hqq12r7bj8iuscn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ.
Well, then perhaps you could go on a quest to try to disprove all
the recorded documents of His existence.
You must be talking about Jesus. Even about him no contemporary
documentation exists. He is claimed to be the Christ. That is not evidence
that there is any such thing.
Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything.
Actually I could not make myself believe either for a great many
years, having never believed. I, too, needed logic and evidence.
But by the grace of God, I now believe! Perhaps my sincere desire
to know the truth played a part, who knows. But I get the
impression if I was determined to reject Him, as if I was able to
see everything there is to see about life, I might very well be
just as lost and just as headed towards destruction as I used to
be.
I remain rational. Sorry about your problem.
John 9:41 KJVR Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin
remaineth.
And now my need for logic and evidence is clearly satisfied by
the truth of God. The genius of God in His Word is amazing! I can
only ask that you keep an open mind that you might find the
evidence and logic you seek, and take another look at all the
evidence around you, ignoring for a moment all the claims you've
been fed from macro evolutionists.
The above tells us that not only do you choose to believe something (silly
in itself) you reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs; that is
dishonest.
I wish you well!
I need
logic and evidence. Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is
useful
and believing in Jesus? The above paragraph indicates that you do not.
Apparently you do not, or you do not care to deal with anything that shows
how invalid your "reasoning" is.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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29 Jan 2008 03:49:51 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:02:27 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bjtsp3hnfackj1r37k6hqq12r7bj8iuscn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ.
Well, then perhaps you could go on a quest to try to disprove all
the recorded documents of His existence.
You must be talking about Jesus. Even about him no contemporary
documentation exists.
Documents about Him exist. Documents about every historical
figure you also believe to have lived also exist, no matter when
they were written. You want to be selective and choose which ones
you're going to believe in until proven false, while others you
want to believe they're false until proven true. You can't have
it both ways. But of course, you're free to have selective
demands on the validity of documents - but that doesn't change
the fact of what those documents tell us whether you want to
selectively believe some and not others. Just like all other
documents: true until proven otherwise; unless you're willing to
denounce all knowledge of every historical figure of a few
hundred years or more in the past, which of course you wouldn't
do.
So unless you can prove those documents that are almost 2,000
years old are false (not to mention also prove documents that
also talk about Christ coming that are over 3,500 years old in
the Old Testament are false), please allow the objective people
to do what we all do with historical documents: true until
convincingly proven to be false.
Take care.
He is claimed to be the Christ. That is not evidence
that there is any such thing.
Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything.
Actually I could not make myself believe either for a great many
years, having never believed. I, too, needed logic and evidence.
But by the grace of God, I now believe! Perhaps my sincere desire
to know the truth played a part, who knows. But I get the
impression if I was determined to reject Him, as if I was able to
see everything there is to see about life, I might very well be
just as lost and just as headed towards destruction as I used to
be.
I remain rational. Sorry about your problem.
John 9:41 KJVR Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin
remaineth.
And now my need for logic and evidence is clearly satisfied by
the truth of God. The genius of God in His Word is amazing! I can
only ask that you keep an open mind that you might find the
evidence and logic you seek, and take another look at all the
evidence around you, ignoring for a moment all the claims you've
been fed from macro evolutionists.
The above tells us that not only do you choose to believe something (silly
in itself) you reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs; that is
dishonest.
I wish you well!
I need
logic and evidence. Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is
useful
and believing in Jesus? The above paragraph indicates that you do not.
Apparently you do not, or you do not care to deal with anything that shows
how invalid your "reasoning" is.
.
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30 Jan 2008 05:26:16 AM |
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On 29 Jan., 22:49, Gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:02:27 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bjtsp3hnfackj1r37k6hqq12r7bj8iuscn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericv...@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is=
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great=
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ.
Well, then perhaps you could go on a quest to try to disprove all
the recorded documents of His existence.
You must be talking about Jesus. =A0Even about him no contemporary
documentation exists. =A0
Documents about Him exist. Documents about every historical
figure you also believe to have lived also exist, no matter when
they were written.
I did not deny that they existed. The fact that we have no
contemporary documents mentioning him considering the events
associated with him claimed in the Bible is a very significant
point.
You want to be selective and choose which ones
you're going to believe in until proven false, while others you
want to believe they're false until proven true.
The above is a complete distortion of what I said. Furthermore,
according to your argument, you should believe everything in the
Koran. It was all written down after all.
You can't have
it both ways. But of course, you're free to have selective
demands on the validity of documents - but that doesn't change
the fact of what those documents tell us whether you want to
selectively believe some and not others. =A0Just like all other
documents: true until proven otherwise; unless you're willing to
denounce all knowledge of every historical figure of a few
hundred years or more in the past, which of course you wouldn't
do.
See above. Things are not believed just because somebody wrote them
down. It is not a matter of believing or not believing just because I
want to. There are objective standards used to judge documents. They
are not just believed until proven false. The very idea is
laughable. You would have to believe and not believe in Christianity
for example, since there are documents from the same period that say
the Jesus stories were frauds. Can you prove them wrong?
So unless you can prove those documents that are almost 2,000
years old are false (not to mention also prove documents that
also talk about Christ coming that are over 3,500 years old in
the Old Testament are false), please allow the objective people
to do what we all do with historical documents: true until
convincingly proven to be false.
You are misinformed documents are not accepted as true until proven
otherwise. Furthermore there is nothing in the Old Testament that
says Jesus of Nazareth would be born.
Take care.
He is claimed to be the Christ. =A0That is not evidence
that there is any such thing.
Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything.
Actually I could not make myself believe either for a great many
years, having never believed. I, too, needed logic and evidence.
But by the grace of God, I now believe! Perhaps my sincere desire
to know the truth played a part, who knows. But I get the
impression if I was determined to reject Him, as if I was able to
see everything there is to see about life, I might very well be
just as lost and just as headed towards destruction as I used to
be.
I remain rational. =A0Sorry about your problem.
John 9:41 KJVR =A0Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin
remaineth.
And now my need for logic and evidence is clearly satisfied by
the truth of God. The genius of God in His Word is amazing! I can
only ask that you keep an open mind that you might find the
evidence and logic you seek, and take another look at all the
evidence around you, ignoring for a moment all the claims you've
been fed from macro evolutionists.
The above tells us that not only do you choose to believe something (sill=
y
in itself) you reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs; that is=
dishonest.
I wish you well!
I need
logic and evidence. =A0Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of =A0unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is
useful
and believing in Jesus? =A0The above paragraph indicates that you do no=
t.
Apparently you do not, or you do not care to deal with anything that show=
s
how invalid your "reasoning" is.- Skjul tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -- Skjul tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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30 Jan 2008 04:35:56 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:26:16 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On 29 Jan., 22:49, Gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:02:27 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bjtsp3hnfackj1r37k6hqq12r7bj8iuscn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0100, "thomas p."
<gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5rlmp39crg1j1sa4a48bd3j1i7mhot3r71@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST), "William T. Goat"
<ericv...@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
But you do. To sin is to tell God no, and that is your choice. And
your stated choice throughtout your lifetime is to tell God that is
your choice for all eternity. And he will give it to you.
Satan smiles.
I always thought Christians were supposed to spread the "Good News,"
and offer people the hope of salvation. You seem to be going to great
lengths to take that hope away. It's as if you don't *want* atheists
to convert, so you insist that they never will.
I think he means that you're making a choice now that affects
your eternity, not that for the rest of your life you will
continue to stay with that same choice. You can, of course,
choose at any time before your last day to sincerely repent in
sincere sorrow for having sinned against God your whole life, and
call on Christ to save you from the judgment of these lifetimes
of sins.
Before I do that I would have to believe in your Christ.
Well, then perhaps you could go on a quest to try to disprove all
the recorded documents of His existence.
You must be talking about Jesus. Even about him no contemporary
documentation exists.
Documents about Him exist. Documents about every historical
figure you also believe to have lived also exist, no matter when
they were written.
I did not deny that they existed. The fact that we have no
contemporary documents mentioning him considering the events
associated with him claimed in the Bible is a very significant
point.
Whether you believe those documents were from exactly when he was
here, or shortly after is irrelevant, as you accept many
historical documents written by people after the fact as well.
And we have many documents many hundreds of years before Christ
was here that talk about Him as well.
You can be consistent and assume they are true until proven
otherwise, or you can disavow all historical knowledge so you can
disavow the life of Jesus Christ as well.
You want to be selective and choose which ones
you're going to believe in until proven false, while others you
want to believe they're false until proven true.
The above is a complete distortion of what I said. Furthermore,
according to your argument, you should believe everything in the
Koran. It was all written down after all.
You can't have
it both ways. But of course, you're free to have selective
demands on the validity of documents - but that doesn't change
the fact of what those documents tell us whether you want to
selectively believe some and not others. Just like all other
documents: true until proven otherwise; unless you're willing to
denounce all knowledge of every historical figure of a few
hundred years or more in the past, which of course you wouldn't
do.
See above. Things are not believed just because somebody wrote them
down. It is not a matter of believing or not believing just because I
want to. There are objective standards used to judge documents. They
are not just believed until proven false. The very idea is
laughable. You would have to believe and not believe in Christianity
for example, since there are documents from the same period that say
the Jesus stories were frauds. Can you prove them wrong?
So unless you can prove those documents that are almost 2,000
years old are false (not to mention also prove documents that
also talk about Christ coming that are over 3,500 years old in
the Old Testament are false), please allow the objective people
to do what we all do with historical documents: true until
convincingly proven to be false.
You are misinformed documents are not accepted as true until proven
otherwise. Furthermore there is nothing in the Old Testament that
says Jesus of Nazareth would be born.
Take care.
He is claimed to be the Christ. That is not evidence
that there is any such thing.
Unlike some I am
unable to choose to believe anything or to not believe anything.
Actually I could not make myself believe either for a great many
years, having never believed. I, too, needed logic and evidence.
But by the grace of God, I now believe! Perhaps my sincere desire
to know the truth played a part, who knows. But I get the
impression if I was determined to reject Him, as if I was able to
see everything there is to see about life, I might very well be
just as lost and just as headed towards destruction as I used to
be.
I remain rational. Sorry about your problem.
John 9:41 KJVR Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin
remaineth.
And now my need for logic and evidence is clearly satisfied by
the truth of God. The genius of God in His Word is amazing! I can
only ask that you keep an open mind that you might find the
evidence and logic you seek, and take another look at all the
evidence around you, ignoring for a moment all the claims you've
been fed from macro evolutionists.
The above tells us that not only do you choose to believe something (silly
in itself) you reject any evidence that contradicts your beliefs; that is
dishonest.
I wish you well!
I need
logic and evidence. Apparently Christians think that people will be
punished for the sin of thinking sensibly.
snip of unsupported religious claims.
Is it your thought that you might do so? And believing in God is
not enough. You can believe a parachute can save you, but if you
just believe in it from a distance and never put it on, it will
not save you. You have to ask for Jesus to come into your life
and help you change from the inside out. If you have any other
questions, please ask!
Yes, do you know the difference between believing that a parachute is
useful
and believing in Jesus? The above paragraph indicates that you do not.
Apparently you do not, or you do not care to deal with anything that shows
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