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"duke" |
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21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 AM |
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Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
On Jan 21, 2:59=A0am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
A&E decided they know better than God and told him "no". We are faced
with the same choices today - God (of the spirit) or me (of the
flesh).
A&E, and you and I, are faced with that choice. There is no such
thing as once saved, always saved.
Choose wisely.
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 08:01:49 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
Do you understand what "free will" means?
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 08:38:49 AM |
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| "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
| news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
| wrote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
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|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
|>
| What free will?
| In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
| of those other gods."
| Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. He does not understand what thinking means.
~ Much less free will.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 01:45:56 PM |
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On Jan 21, 8:38=A0am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
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| "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
|news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>| w=
rote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest=
|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
|>>
|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
|>
| =A0 =A0 What free will?
| =A0 =A0 In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| =A0 =A0 He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
| of those other gods."
| =A0 =A0 Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. =A0He does not understand what thinking means.=
~ Much less free will.
I got you covered on both issue. And it's not going to be pretty for
you for all eternity.
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| User: "Syd M." |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 11:25:01 PM |
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On Jan 21, 2:45 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 21, 8:38 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
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| "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
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| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>|=
wrote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greate=
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|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
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|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
|>
| What free will?
| In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
| of those other gods."
| Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. He does not understand what thinking means.=
~ Much less free will.
I got you covered on both issue. And it's not going to be pretty for
you for all eternity.
You got nothing, Dork. You can't even prove this crap exist or will
happen.
And we don't believe you. Sucks, donnit?
PDW
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 11:09:02 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Jan 21, 8:38 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
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Witziges Rätsel wrote:
| "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
|news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>| wrote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
|>>
|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
|>
| What free will?
| In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
| of those other gods."
| Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. He does not understand what thinking means.
~ Much less free will.
I got you covered on both issue. And it's not going to be pretty for
you for all eternity.
....is that all you have Duke, primitive fables about living forever ?
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
22 Jan 2008 11:27:16 AM |
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On Jan 21, 11:09=A0pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Jan 21, 8:38=A0am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
wrote:
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| "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
|news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com=
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| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au=
| wrote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his grea=
test
|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
|>>
|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
|>
| =A0 =A0 What free will?
| =A0 =A0 In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| =A0 =A0 He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
| of those other gods."
| =A0 =A0 Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. =A0He does not understand what thinking me=
ans.
~ Much less free will.
I got you covered on both issue. =A0And it's not going to be pretty for
you for all eternity.
...is that all you have Duke, primitive fables about living forever =A0?- =
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You too will find out the truth for sure the moment you die when you
will stand before almighty God to answer for that which you did while
in the flesh.
Best of luck.
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
22 Jan 2008 05:15:09 PM |
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On 22 Jan., 18:27, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:09=A0pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Jan 21, 8:38=A0am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
wrote:
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| "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
|news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.c=
om...
| On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.=
au>| wrote:
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|>> If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his gr=
eatest
|>> creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
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|> Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
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| =A0 =A0 What free will?
| =A0 =A0 In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
| other gods before me!"
| =A0 =A0 He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any=
| of those other gods."
| =A0 =A0 Do you understand what "free will" means?
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No, it's Earl "Puke" Weber. =A0He does not understand what thinking =
means.
~ Much less free will.
I got you covered on both issue. =A0And it's not going to be pretty fo=
r
you for all eternity.
...is that all you have Duke, primitive fables about living forever =A0?=
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You too will find out the truth for sure the moment you die when you
will stand before almighty God to answer for that which you did while
in the flesh.
Best of luck.- `
And here you go, threatening us...
***** you, *****.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
22 Jan 2008 05:20:47 PM |
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You too will find out the truth for sure the moment you die when you
will stand before almighty God to answer for that which you did while
in the flesh.
Best of luck.- `
And here you go, threatening us...
***** you, *****.- Hide quoted text -
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Time to start a change in your life, little nazi boy.
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| User: "" |
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23 Jan 2008 01:01:24 AM |
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On 23 jan, 00:20, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You too will find out the truth for sure the moment you die when you
will stand before almighty God to answer for that which you did while
in the flesh.
Best of luck.- `
And here you go, threatening us...
***** you, *****.- Hide quoted text -
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Time to start a change in your life, little nazi boy.
We're not interested in your sexual obsession with men wearing
leather, Puke.
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| User: "duke" |
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23 Jan 2008 07:12:56 AM |
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On Jan 23, 1:01=A0am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. I'm not. I'm trying to help you.
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| User: "Syd" |
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23 Jan 2008 03:19:16 PM |
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On Jan 23, 8:12 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Jan 23, 1:01 am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. I'm not. I'm trying to help you.
Nooooo! Your trying to make yourself feel smug and superior.
You don't fool us, Earl.
PDW
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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23 Jan 2008 03:13:36 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01 am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. I'm not. I'm trying to help you.
....never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Hamilton 2, Houston 1 (January 20)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 25 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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23 Jan 2008 03:39:13 PM |
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On Jan 23, 3:13=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01=A0am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shin=
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tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. =A0I'm not. =A0I'm trying to help you.
...never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
I am called by God to help them. They don't have to take it. But
don't cry when the end comes and you get the downtown ticket. I
tried.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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23 Jan 2008 11:47:24 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 3:13 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01 am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will shine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. I'm not. I'm trying to help you.
...never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
I am called by God to help them. They don't have to take it. But
don't cry when the end comes and you get the downtown ticket. I
tried.
When the end comes, I won't know anything. That's none of your business,
Fraud Earl.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Hamilton 2, Houston 1 (January 20)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 25 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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24 Jan 2008 06:31:15 AM |
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On Jan 23, 11:47=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 3:13=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01=A0am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will s=
hine
tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. =A0I'm not. =A0I'm trying to help you.
...never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
I am called by God to help them. =A0They don't have to take it. =A0But
don't cry when the end comes and you get the downtown ticket. =A0I
tried.
When the end comes, I won't know anything. =A0That's none of your business=
,
There's only been one man that's gone there and come back to talk
about it, and he says you're wrong, west loop.
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24 Jan 2008 01:04:45 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 11:47 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 3:13 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01 am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun will
shine tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. I'm not. I'm trying to help you.
...never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
I am called by God to help them. They don't have to take it. But
don't cry when the end comes and you get the downtown ticket. I
tried.
When the end comes, I won't know anything. That's none of your business,
There's only been one man that's gone there and come back to talk
about it, and he says you're wrong, west loop.
I'm not responsible for the voices in your head, Waffle House Boy.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Hamilton 2, Houston 1 (January 20)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 25 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "duke" |
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24 Jan 2008 02:54:02 PM |
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On Jan 24, 1:04=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 11:47=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 3:13=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> writes:
On Jan 23, 1:01=A0am, wrote:
I'm not threatening you any more than if I told you the sun wil=
l
shine tomorrow.
Yes you are and you know it very well, hypocrite sack of *****.
Noooooooo. =A0I'm not. =A0I'm trying to help you.
...never mind that you don't have the right to "help" those who aren=
't
interested in your self-serving approach, Fraud Earl.
I am called by God to help them. =A0They don't have to take it. =A0But=
don't cry when the end comes and you get the downtown ticket. =A0I
tried.
When the end comes, I won't know anything. =A0That's none of your busin=
ess,
There's only been one man that's gone there and come back to talk
about it, and he says you're wrong, west loop.
I'm not responsible for the voices in your head, Waffle House Boy.
But you are for the voices in YOUR head.
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| User: "Auntie Christstain" |
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22 Jan 2008 05:33:00 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
Do you understand what "free will" means?
"free will" or Free Willy? Only difference is the caged mind is imprisoned by
any Theocracy...
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"Theocracy Is Dead...Long Live The Sin"=81
-- Auntie Christstain=81
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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22 Jan 2008 05:38:07 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:33:00 -0800, Auntie Christstain?
<antant@comcast.net> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
Do you understand what "free will" means?
"free will" or Free Willy? Only difference is the caged mind is imprisoned by
any Theocracy...
I thought free willy was what paedophile priests had.
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23 Jan 2008 11:46:59 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:33:00 -0800, Auntie Christstain?
<antant@comcast.net> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
Do you understand what "free will" means?
"free will" or Free Willy? Only difference is the caged mind is imprisoned
by any Theocracy...
I thought free willy was what paedophile priests had.
lmao...hmmm, last I heard it was Woody Goodwoodpecker ... hmmm, I think I
found (another) new nic ; )
--
<> ><> ><> Christinsanity LIES With The Fishes <>< <>< <><=81
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22 Jan 2008 11:09:55 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:38:07 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:33:00 -0800, Auntie Christstain?
<antant@comcast.net> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8315161e-52d7-4d69-a63e-473b3bc9614a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
Do you understand what "free will" means?
"free will" or Free Willy? Only difference is the caged mind is imprisoned by
any Theocracy...
I thought free willy was what paedophile priests had.
And Michael Jackson.
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21 Jan 2008 10:33:36 AM |
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On Jan 21, 8:01=A0am, "Witziges R=E4tsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 21, 2:59 am, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au>
wrote:
If God is perfect and creates perfect things then why did his greatest
creations Adam and Eve fail such a simple test?
Real Christians know the answer to that one - free will.
=A0 =A0 What free will?
=A0 =A0 In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no
other gods before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues
to give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God. We
call that hell.
=A0 =A0 He doesn't give a balanced choice: "You may have me or any
of those other gods."
=A0 =A0 Do you understand what "free will" means?
Yes, and you and I exercise it. I choose God and you choose satan.
Enjoy your choice.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 21, 8:01 am, "Witziges Rätsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no other gods
before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues to
give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God.
You're deluding yourself, as usual.
You'll have the same contact with gawd in death that you have in life:
none.
We call that hell.
We call that reality.
LC~ Knows that dook rarely has any contact with reality.
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes."~ Isaac Asimov
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
22 Jan 2008 09:04:22 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1a76fd1f-359c-40e3-bac6-dd9177a81e88@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 8:01 am, "Witziges Rätsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no other gods
before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues to
give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God.
You're deluding yourself, as usual.
You'll have the same contact with gawd in death that you have in life:
none.
You better make sure you're 100% right about that. Because when
you find out you're wrong, you'll then find out that you were
deceived into going straight to hell to pay for your own sins
rather than allowing Jesus Christ to pay them for you.
Pascal's Wager?
How very lame, but so very typical of the mind-numbed fundy.
Repent! Odin is the ONE TRUE GAWD!
"[The Bible] is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some
clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals;
and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."~ Mark Twain:
"Letters from the Earth".
We call that hell.
We call that reality.
And one day, if you do not find out otherwise, you'll be calling
hell your reality. :-(
As will you, when you realize that you picked the wrong god.
After all, there's SO many to choose from.
In any event, in the unlikely event that there is a "hell", I'll be in very
good company:
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies."~ Benjamin Franklin
And exchanges like this very one that tried to tell you otherwise but that
you mocked and rejected will be the very words that condemn you.
*yawn*
You poor deluded dundy, letting your indoctrinated fears run your life.
How sad.
LC~ Knows that dook rarely has any contact with reality.
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes."~ Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
25 Jan 2008 03:28:54 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:04:22 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1a76fd1f-359c-40e3-bac6-dd9177a81e88@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 8:01 am, "Witziges Rätsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no other gods
before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues to
give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God.
You're deluding yourself, as usual.
You'll have the same contact with gawd in death that you have in life:
none.
You better make sure you're 100% right about that. Because when
you find out you're wrong, you'll then find out that you were
deceived into going straight to hell to pay for your own sins
rather than allowing Jesus Christ to pay them for you.
Pascal's Wager?
How very lame, but so very typical of the mind-numbed fundy.
Interesting contrast of our approaches. I just give information.
You provide nasty attacks. Our motives speak volumes about who's
really about truth, and who's really about deception.
Repent! Odin is the ONE TRUE GAWD!
"[The Bible] is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some
clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals;
and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."~ Mark Twain:
"Letters from the Earth".
We call that hell.
We call that reality.
And one day, if you do not find out otherwise, you'll be calling
hell your reality. :-(
As will you, when you realize that you picked the wrong god.
After all, there's SO many to choose from.
In any event, in the unlikely event that there is a "hell", I'll be in very
good company:
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies."~ Benjamin Franklin
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is
blind." (Albert Einstein)
And exchanges like this very one that tried to tell you otherwise but that
you mocked and rejected will be the very words that condemn you.
*yawn*
You poor deluded dundy, letting your indoctrinated fears run your life.
How sad.
LC~ Knows that dook rarely has any contact with reality.
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes."~ Isaac Asimov
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
26 Jan 2008 05:40:28 AM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:7jajp35u2tvfo0jfog2489ged11fr088g6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:04:22 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
snip
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is
blind." (Albert Einstein)
Silly.
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
26 Jan 2008 05:49:59 PM |
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"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:04:22 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3p7ap3df0htcltldjgqj9pjbfa72ujqk90@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1a76fd1f-359c-40e3-bac6-dd9177a81e88@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 8:01 am, "Witziges Rätsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no other gods
before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues
to
give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God.
You're deluding yourself, as usual.
You'll have the same contact with gawd in death that you have in life:
none.
You better make sure you're 100% right about that. Because when
you find out you're wrong, you'll then find out that you were
deceived into going straight to hell to pay for your own sins
rather than allowing Jesus Christ to pay them for you.
Pascal's Wager?
How very lame, but so very typical of the mind-numbed fundy.
Interesting contrast of our approaches. I just give information.
You provide nasty attacks. Our motives speak volumes about who's
really about truth, and who's really about deception.
Repent! Odin is the ONE TRUE GAWD!
"[The Bible] is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some
clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals;
and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."~ Mark Twain:
"Letters from the Earth".
We call that hell.
We call that reality.
And one day, if you do not find out otherwise, you'll be calling
hell your reality. :-(
As will you, when you realize that you picked the wrong god.
After all, there's SO many to choose from.
In any event, in the unlikely event that there is a "hell", I'll be in
very
good company:
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies."~ Benjamin Franklin
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is
blind." (Albert Einstein)
Since Einstein didn't believe in a personal God of retribution and that kind
of religion, that quote is not at all relevant for Christianity.
Science certainly doesn't need any religion in it.
Some here actually think that science in some cases is a religion and that
that's a bad thing. In fact I think you're one of them.
--
Andrew W.
Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
28 Jan 2008 06:54:10 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:49:59 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:04:22 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3p7ap3df0htcltldjgqj9pjbfa72ujqk90@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:52:31 -0600, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1a76fd1f-359c-40e3-bac6-dd9177a81e88@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 21, 8:01 am, "Witziges Rätsel" <z...@roer.com> wrote:
What free will?
In Deuteronomy 5, Jehovah commands: "You should have no other gods
before me!"
But free to do so anyway. And when you do, and you die, he continues
to
give you your choice for all eternity - no contact with God.
You're deluding yourself, as usual.
You'll have the same contact with gawd in death that you have in life:
none.
You better make sure you're 100% right about that. Because when
you find out you're wrong, you'll then find out that you were
deceived into going straight to hell to pay for your own sins
rather than allowing Jesus Christ to pay them for you.
Pascal's Wager?
How very lame, but so very typical of the mind-numbed fundy.
Interesting contrast of our approaches. I just give information.
You provide nasty attacks. Our motives speak volumes about who's
really about truth, and who's really about deception.
Repent! Odin is the ONE TRUE GAWD!
"[The Bible] is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some
clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals;
and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."~ Mark Twain:
"Letters from the Earth".
We call that hell.
We call that reality.
And one day, if you do not find out otherwise, you'll be calling
hell your reality. :-(
As will you, when you realize that you picked the wrong god.
After all, there's SO many to choose from.
In any event, in the unlikely event that there is a "hell", I'll be in
very
good company:
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies."~ Benjamin Franklin
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is
blind." (Albert Einstein)
Since Einstein didn't believe in a personal God of retribution and that kind
of religion, that quote is not at all relevant for Christianity.
Science certainly doesn't need any religion in it.
Some here actually think that science in some cases is a religion and that
that's a bad thing. In fact I think you're one of them.
Actually science that analyzes God's creation around us to tell
us how it's working today can be a good thing. Macro evolution,
which is a religious belief disguised as science is really a
heretical attempt to reject God - it's not scientific as it
proposes beliefs that are not observable, testable or verifiable
- the tenets of true science.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
28 Jan 2008 07:39:20 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:54:10 -0500, in alt.atheism
Gabriel <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
<b6usp3tjmd6um10aphn6kb0t5628rn5304@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:49:59 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
....
Since Einstein didn't believe in a personal God of retribution and that kind
of religion, that quote is not at all relevant for Christianity.
Science certainly doesn't need any religion in it.
Some here actually think that science in some cases is a religion and that
that's a bad thing. In fact I think you're one of them.
Actually science that analyzes God's creation around us to tell
us how it's working today can be a good thing. Macro evolution,
which is a religious belief disguised as science is really a
heretical attempt to reject God - it's not scientific as it
proposes beliefs that are not observable, testable or verifiable
- the tenets of true science.
I see that you have chosen to continue to bear false witness about
science. I must conclude that you are also lying to us about your
religious faith.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: Re: A question Christians can't properly answer |
28 Jan 2008 10:27:14 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:39:20 -0600, Free Lunch
<lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:54:10 -0500, in alt.atheism
Gabriel <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in
<b6usp3tjmd6um10aphn6kb0t5628rn5304@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:49:59 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
...
Since Einstein didn't believe in a personal God of retribution and that kind
of religion, that quote is not at all relevant for Christianity.
Science certainly doesn't need any religion in it.
Some here actually think that science in some cases is a religion and that
that's a bad thing. In fact I think you're one of them.
Actually science that analyzes God's creation around us to tell
us how it's working today can be a good thing. Macro evolution,
which is a religious belief disguised as science is really a
heretical attempt to reject God - it's not scientific as it
proposes beliefs that are not observable, testable or verifiable
- the tenets of true science.
I see that you have chosen to continue to bear false witness about
science.
Not about science: about macro evolution, which is not science:
as they refer to things not once observed, verified or testable,
and dishonestly pass it off as fact. Actual scientists that don't
fear getting blacklisted, or already have and so have nothing
more to fear from them, continue to point this very thing out.
I must conclude that you are also lying to us about your
religious faith.
You would conclude that no matter what anyone told you, replacing
one rationalization with another.
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