In article <c29k3f$3da$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>,
soberon@nospamo.luukku.com says...

Gay Jesus wrote:

In article <c29iic$14o$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>,
soberon@nospamo.luukku.com says...

Gay Jesus wrote:

In article <c29g5e$it0$1@yeppa.connect.com.au>,

"Michael Yardley" <yardleymj@yahoo.ca> wrote in message

AA and NA meetings in town are all full of loose-rs,Mental retards,
Alcoholics, Drugi's best to avoid. You can find recovery by reading
alt.recovery 12 steps and getting a job. AA and NA are nothing more
than a Christian Cult that bring you to a belief in God by Auto
suggestion and repeating yourself. Best to avoid.
http://religion-cults.com/index.html
http://religion-cults.com/index.html

such hostility,, and yur problem is?????

Gosh maybe like thousands of people he was forced into these
brainwashing cult
programs as a slightly less excruciating alternative to prison.

For no apparent reason whatsoever, like most people who face prison
sentence, right?

The question that was asked was what his problem was, not what his
potential persecutor's morality is.

Yeah, right. The persecutors are so amoral to persecute all these
innocent victims. The point I was sort of trying to make and obviously
failed at was that after a person commits crimes in a society, he
enters the realm of law and justice system where he may have to face
correctional actions, such as prison sentences and such. These actions
are a result of the individuals criminal behaviour and nothing more,
consequences of their own actions that force the society to deprive
them of some of their rights. No one is, however, forced to partake in
a 12 step program as a part of the sentence.

That's not true. It is a very common component in sentencing here in
Vancouver.