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james g. keegan jr. wrote:

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james g. keegan jr. wrote:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:ps3sn5SlEHA.1732
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
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I think that after September 11, the American people are
valuing life
more

is that why we illegally invaded a sovereign nation and killed
unarmed
women and children?

There was nothing illegal about it.

uh huh

The U.N. put it's rubber stamp of approval on the invasion, the
occupation, the interim government, and the current election
process.

no, it did not.

Yes, it did.

Care to cite?

The U.S., as a whole, has broken no laws to which it was bound.

the united states is bound to follow international law, just as it
reqiuires others nations do.

It's not a law that the U.S. is bound by if it's not enforceable (and
it isn't)

Maybe you should think of it as a code of honour then (albeit a
CONSTITUIONALLY PROTECTED code of honor).

I think of it as what it is, unenforceable by those who wish to impose
it.

I don't think anyone is denying that.
It was still an illegal action, and the protectors of the US
Constitution (whoever they may be) should take note.

The protectors of the Constitution invaded Iraq.

Aha....now you are making progress.

No, you are...

So, you have a group of people whose job it is to protect your
constitution

It isn't their only job. It isn't even their primary job.

(the fundamentals on which your state has been built), they ignore it,

They didn't ignore it.

and you couldn't care less.

It doesn't bother or surprise me because this is how it's always been.
Not that I have any inside information, because I don't, but I'm sure
you're one of the people who would be very surprised if the public was
ever made aware of some of the things America has done.

Jesus, those guys really did a job on you lot.

It isn't I who doesn't know how America operates. Of course Iraq was
invaded under false pretenses, but it wasn't illegal for America to do so.

This isn't the first time and you can be certain it won't be the last.

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:chqi0j$qll$3@news1.usf.edu:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:

Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:

the united states is bound to follow international law, just as it
reqiuires others nations do.

It's not a law that the U.S. is bound by if it's not enforceable
(and it isn't)

are you suggesting other nations should band together and invade us
to force us to keep our agreements?

I'm suggesting that if they do nothing, then their laws are
worthless.

it is our laws we are breaking; not only their laws.

interesting that you seem to regularly define us as nation of
uncontrollable, violent barbarians unwilling to keep our word and
treaties. most other nations agree with that view, i think.

What good is the UN if they can't even enforce their own word.

what good is the united states if they can't even enforce their own
word?

We sure as hell did.