If those who claim god exisdts won't define their god, so as to leave
nothing to aim for when debunking any claim you put forth,
yes.
Which god do I debunk? The Greek Philosopher perfect god from who's
perfection we derive omnipotence, omnibenevolence and other omni-attributes?
Which all soon contradict each other?
Or the crude, vicious, genocidal and stupid god of the old testament tall
tales?
Or both?
If you wish you avoid a debunked god by refusing to define your god, it
only delays the debunking god so deserves.
1/ sci.logic is more about this ....
A[a, b] A[c, d] ( [a, b] < [c, d] <-> Ex(b pp x /\ x pp c))
[[a, b]] < [[c, d]] :<-> Ex(b pp x /\ x pp c))
In addition, we need an inclusion relation. With respect to the natural
ordering on Ord, we might write
A[a, b] A[c, d] ( [a, b] nat-include [c, d] <-> (Ax(x pp a -> x pp c) /\
Ax(x pp d -> x pp b)))
Let me reformulate your _definition_ this way:
[[c, d]] c [[a, b]] :<-> Ax(x pp a -> x pp c) /\
Ax(x pp d -> x pp b)
ok?
Yes
so that monotonicity
(([a, b] nat-include [c, d]) /\ ([a, b] < [x, y])) -> [c, d] < [x, y]
[[c, d]] c [[a, b]] & [[a, b]] < [[x, y]] -> [[c, d]] < [[x, y]]
((([x, y] < [a, b]) /\ ([a, b] nat-include [c, d]) -> [x, y] < [c, d]
[[x, y]] < [[a, b]] & [[c, d]] c [[a, b]] -> [[x, y]] < [[c, d]]
and convexity
( ([a, b] < [c, d]) /\ ([c, d] < [e, f]) /\ ([x, y] nat-include [a, b])
/\ ([x, y] nat-include [e, f]) ) -> ([x, y] nat-include [c, d])
are preserved.
[[a, b]] < [[c, d]] & [[c, d]] < [[e, f]] &
[[a, b]] c [[x, y]] & [[e, f]] c [[x, y]] -> [[c, d]] c [[x, y]]
However, taking lead from Cohen forcing and the construction of Suslin
trees from Suslin lines, we invert the sense of the natural inclusion
for intervals. That is,
A[a, b] A[c, d] ( [a, b] include [c, d] <-> [c, d] nat-include [a, b])
Its not so much "therefore he said she said Lady Di went 'you can't catch me' and
I was right and then that happened"
See the difference?
2/ God doesn't have to be defined to be proved, only an attribute which you
seem to have stumbled across yourself, omniXence.
Which is not self contradictory, seperated matter does influence one another using
quantum principles, e.g. 2 particles light years apart can influence each other.
All we need is some determination that many particles influence many particles
which is not yet shown within physics, and a mechanisim of omnipresence is aparant.
Herc
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