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"Carol Lee Smith" |
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16 Nov 2003 05:36:38 PM |
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Re: Alabama Chief Justice Removed From Office |
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Ambrose wrote:
The evil of religion in a nut shell, religion is the champion of
ignorance.
Gnostics aways miss the truth.You can't know anything absolute. Knowing is a
lie, an illusion of giving definition to that which cannot be defined, of
providing equation or measurement for that which cannot be measured.
Lauguage quickly fails in it's capacity to provide measure, and mathematics
fails when that which is being measured assumes an irrevocable
contradiction. Evil is relative without a defining cosmic context. But the
cosmos cannot nor will not ever be defined, so in the end, science and all
intellectual excercis becomes philosophy, mind games for the weak.
<snip>
The only hope for man kind is to rid the world of the superstition
of religion.
I agree there. All religion is superstition, but so is all science, it's
merely another attempt to provide comfort in the darkness.
Don't know about others, but I would certainly like to see some examples
of science which proves all science is superstition.
Likewise, show some examples of science which prove science is an attempt
to provide comfort in the darkness.
There is no comfort, there is only the eternal
screaming horror of awareness.
And you know this how?
Peace is simply the return to unknowing,
the denial of alternative, the refusal of
option, the submission to ultimate weakness.
For all is nothing, nothing worth saving,
nothing worth knowing. And within that, is the pure reason,
the essential truth, the last hope, but of course, hope does not exist, it
is not in, this world. And that's the point, it's always what you believe.
I do believe you left your meds on the dashboard, they overheated and as a
result they are giving you some very weird side effects.
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| User: "Ambrose" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama Chief Justice Removed From Office |
16 Nov 2003 07:20:02 PM |
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"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1031116173204.18659G-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Ambrose wrote:
The evil of religion in a nut shell, religion is the champion of
ignorance.
Gnostics aways miss the truth.You can't know anything absolute. Knowing
is a
lie, an illusion of giving definition to that which cannot be defined,
of
providing equation or measurement for that which cannot be measured.
Lauguage quickly fails in it's capacity to provide measure, and
mathematics
fails when that which is being measured assumes an irrevocable
contradiction. Evil is relative without a defining cosmic context. But
the
cosmos cannot nor will not ever be defined, so in the end, science and
all
intellectual excercis becomes philosophy, mind games for the weak.
<snip>
The only hope for man kind is to rid the world of the superstition
of religion.
I agree there. All religion is superstition, but so is all science, it's
merely another attempt to provide comfort in the darkness.
Don't know about others, but I would certainly like to see some examples
of science which proves all science is superstition.
Likewise, show some examples of science which prove science is an attempt
to provide comfort in the darkness.
There is no comfort, there is only the eternal
screaming horror of awareness.
And you know this how?
Peace is simply the return to unknowing,
the denial of alternative, the refusal of
option, the submission to ultimate weakness.
For all is nothing, nothing worth saving,
nothing worth knowing. And within that, is the pure reason,
the essential truth, the last hope, but of course, hope does not exist,
it
is not in, this world. And that's the point, it's always what you
believe.
I do believe you left your meds on the dashboard, they overheated and as a
result they are giving you some very weird side effects.
Carol honey, must you give into the temptation to redicule? Would you be a
liberal? So often when liberals can't provide a reasoned response, they
resort to redicule and name calling. But don't get me wrong, conservatives
are no better, it's just that their points usually have at least a partial
foundation in logic.
I myself am neither left wing nor right wing. If you wish to categorize
me, perhaps Medievalist is the closest discription to my point of view ,
though that doesn't really cover it, because it implies an acceptance of a
concept of geometric harmony of the natural order, which is just not there.
The universe and all existence are corrupt, brutal, exploitative, predatory,
from the tiniest bacteria right through to yet to be realized post-digital
liquid artificial consciousness which by the United Nations own occurance
probability analysts, will begin slowly replacing biological humanity in
less than 30 years.
As for the so-called human schools, for which I have nothing but distain
, any theory of social analysis from Plato, to Marx and all the political
social labor movements, and intellectual experiments, especially those of
the pedophile core of educational reformers, the Hegelian Prussian
structuraliasts, the JS Millsians, William Jamesites, the John Deweyians, or
the perverse associates of the father of theNew Age movemnt Allistar
Crowley, Evelyn and Sidney Webb.
My main objection to all political formulations is that they are
alwasys clandestinely structured to re-enforce an established core elite.
Who declares them elite? They do. Who are they, why do they have privelege?
And why is the nuclear threat considered the most threatening, because they
know they can't escape it. It's like Bio, or chemical warefare, it crosses
all economic social, itellectual boundary lines. That is what makes it so
powerful and why all peoples, all countries should have access to it.
Nuclear is the only weapon for which there is no real defense. And maybe
thatdnger, will return us to the reality that since there is nope, we just
might reconsider the old ideals of love, devotion and surrender, or faith,
grace and peace, the willingness to give everything away rather than deny
the truth within
Ambrose
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama Chief Justice Removed From Office |
16 Nov 2003 09:20:53 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Ambrose wrote:
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Ambrose wrote:
The evil of religion in a nut shell, religion is the champion of
ignorance.
Gnostics aways miss the truth.You can't know anything absolute. Knowing is a
lie, an illusion of giving definition to that which cannot be defined, of providing equation or measurement for that which cannot be measured.
Lauguage quickly fails in it's capacity to provide measure, and mathematics
fails when that which is being measured assumes an irrevocable
contradiction. Evil is relative without a defining cosmic context. But
the cosmos cannot nor will not ever be defined, so in the end, science and
all intellectual excercis becomes philosophy, mind games for the weak.
<snip>
The only hope for man kind is to rid the world of the superstition
of religion.
I agree there. All religion is superstition, but so is all science, it's
merely another attempt to provide comfort in the darkness.
Don't know about others, but I would certainly like to see some examples
of science which proves all science is superstition.
Likewise, show some examples of science which prove science is an attempt
to provide comfort in the darkness.
Request ignored; no examples provided.
There is no comfort, there is only the eternal
screaming horror of awareness.
And you know this how?
Evasion: No answer given.
Peace is simply the return to unknowing,
the denial of alternative, the refusal of
option, the submission to ultimate weakness.
For all is nothing, nothing worth saving, nothing worth knowing. And within that, is the pure reason, the essential truth, the last hope, but of course, hope does not exist, it is not in, this world. And that's the point, it's always what you
believe.< < <
I do believe you left your meds on the dashboard, they overheated and as a
result they are giving you some very weird side effects.
Carol honey, must you give into the temptation to redicule [sic]?
Condescension.
Would you be a liberal?
Answer the previous questions and provide the requested proof before you
ask your own questions.
Main Entry: 2liberal
Function: noun
Date: 1820
: a person who is liberal: as a : one who is open-minded or not strict in
the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways b
capitalized : a member or supporter of a liberal political party c : an
advocate or adherent of liberalism especially in individual rights
So often when liberals can't provide a reasoned response, they
resort to redicule [sic] and name calling.
So often when you are asked questions and asked for verification and
support for your argument you refuse to answer or provide evidence.
But don't get me wrong, conservatives are no better,
So are you suggesting that equality is the order of the day in ridicule
and name calling?
it's just that their points usually have at least a partial
foundation in logic.
I have never noticed that conservative arguments or conservatives were
more founded or grounded in logic.
If you are a conservative, you certainly don't prove that assertion.
I myself am neither left wing nor right wing.
So, you are wingless.
If you wish to categorize me, perhaps Medievalist is
the closest discription to my point of view ,
Main Entry: medievalist
Pronunciation: -'dEv-list, -'dE-v&-, -dE-'Ev-, -dE-'E-v&-
Function: noun
Date: circa 1859
1 : a specialist in medieval history and culture
2 : a connoisseur or devotee of medieval arts and culture
Perhaps you are in the wrong place. I haven't seen any discusion of
medieval art, history or culture.
If you are REALLY a devotee of medieval arts and culture, perhaps that
explains why you express odd opinions of history and culture which is
much, much more recent than medieval.
though that doesn't really cover it, because it implies an acceptance of a
concept of geometric harmony of the natural order, which is just not there.
Ask me if I care.
The universe and all existence are corrupt, brutal, exploitative, predatory,
from the tiniest bacteria right through to yet to be realized post-digital
liquid artificial consciousness which by the United Nations own occurance
probability analysts, will begin slowly replacing biological humanity in
less than 30 years.
A soul mate of Dawkins.
<snip obfuscation>
Get back to us after you have answers and evidence.
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