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12 Jul 2006 04:51:25 PM |
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Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
On 9 Jul 2006 17:41:08 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Tell me about this afterlife thing. How does it work? is your brain
required for you to think, or not? if it is, then there is no
afterlife, because when you die and your brain quits working, you won't
think any more, and there is no way you could experience a hell or
heaven or whatever else.
Are you really so stupid that you think that the creator of the universe can't
help you past that little problem?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
13 Jul 2006 02:25:03 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 9 Jul 2006 17:41:08 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Tell me about this afterlife thing. How does it work? is your brain
required for you to think, or not? if it is, then there is no
afterlife, because when you die and your brain quits working, you won't
think any more, and there is no way you could experience a hell or
heaven or whatever else.
Are you really so stupid that you think that the creator of the universe can't
help you past that little problem?
Are you really stupid enough to think there is a way past that little
problem? yeah, I guess you are.
Jim
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
14 Jul 2006 06:21:41 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 13 Jul 2006 12:25:03 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Tell me about this afterlife thing. How does it work? is your brain
required for you to think, or not? if it is, then there is no
afterlife, because when you die and your brain quits working, you won't
think any more, and there is no way you could experience a hell or
heaven or whatever else.
Are you really so stupid that you think that the creator of the universe can't
help you past that little problem?
Are you really stupid enough to think there is a way past that little
problem? yeah, I guess you are.
There's no doubt at all that God can handle that one. After all, he created the
universe and all in it based on his will for it to be so.
and the best part is there is absolutely no way for anyone to know....
Jim
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 08:05:16 AM |
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On 14 Jul 2006 16:21:41 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
There's no doubt at all that God can handle that one. After all, he created the
universe and all in it based on his will for it to be so.
and the best part is there is absolutely no way for anyone to know....
Jim
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
2. It's too late to change your mind.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "JB" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
16 Jul 2006 12:04:07 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 14 Jul 2006 16:21:41 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
There's no doubt at all that God can handle that one. After all, he created the
universe and all in it based on his will for it to be so.
and the best part is there is absolutely no way for anyone to know....
Jim
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
2. It's too late to change your mind.
You can still be alive and it be too late to change your mind. If you
have committed
the ONE sin that Jesus will not forgive, then you are condemned
anyway.
www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/unpardonablesin.html
.... Christian theologian Dr. F.F. Bruce writes,
"...Speaking against the Son of man might be due to a failure to
recognize Him for what He is. So Paul recalls how in his pre-Christian
days he thought it his duty to oppose the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
But if, having seen the light on the Damascus road, he had deliberately
closed his eyes to it and kicked out against the goad which was
directing him into the true path, that would have been the sin against
the Holy Spirit."
(so the only atheists that can be saved are those who have never spoken
badly about
JC or were never exposed to Christianity in the first place)....
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 12:13:56 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 14 Jul 2006 16:21:41 -0700, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
There's no doubt at all that God can handle that one. After all, he created the
universe and all in it based on his will for it to be so.
and the best part is there is absolutely no way for anyone to know....
Jim
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
2. It's too late to change your mind.
Unless it turns out there is reincarnation.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 02:30:16 PM |
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On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
2. It's too late to change your mind.
Unless it turns out there is reincarnation.
It won't.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 02:50:03 PM |
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In article <ofgib2ls9v00ifhbnb5es18rcnm0pj8nqi@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for
them.
And in Hell, too, if they don't convert.... right?
Don't lie, now. It's in your bloody book.
--
655321
"There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and
AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the
world today." -- Arthur Jensen, 'Network' (1976)
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 02:45:10 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Too bad that isn't gonna save them from the fires of hell, though.
--
Gospel Bretts
aa Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 03:02:27 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:45:10 GMT, in alt.atheism
Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@Jesus.Amen> wrote in
<3dhib29efb4nlr65biu8sjl5kkq68g3qoe@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Too bad that isn't gonna save them from the fires of hell, though.
Please provide evidence that your claim has anything to do with reality.
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: am i "christian" or agnostic? |
15 Jul 2006 05:46:57 PM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:45:10 GMT, in alt.atheism
Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@Jesus.Amen> wrote in
<3dhib29efb4nlr65biu8sjl5kkq68g3qoe@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Too bad that isn't gonna save them from the fires of hell, though.
Please provide evidence that your claim has anything to do with reality.
Bretts is an atheist, and was pointing out the contradiction between
Duke's claim and Duke's religion.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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15 Jul 2006 07:27:21 PM |
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On 15 Jul 2006 15:46:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote in
<1153003617.068610.99120@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:45:10 GMT, in alt.atheism
Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@Jesus.Amen> wrote in
<3dhib29efb4nlr65biu8sjl5kkq68g3qoe@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Too bad that isn't gonna save them from the fires of hell, though.
Please provide evidence that your claim has anything to do with reality.
Bretts is an atheist, and was pointing out the contradiction between
Duke's claim and Duke's religion.
Ah, I hadn't caught that. It's sometimes difficult to keep track of all
of the people who are trying to get Duke to learn something, anything.
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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15 Jul 2006 08:39:24 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:27:21 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 15:46:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote in
<1153003617.068610.99120@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:45:10 GMT, in alt.atheism
Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@Jesus.Amen> wrote in
<3dhib29efb4nlr65biu8sjl5kkq68g3qoe@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Too bad that isn't gonna save them from the fires of hell, though.
Please provide evidence that your claim has anything to do with reality.
Bretts is an atheist, and was pointing out the contradiction between
Duke's claim and Duke's religion.
Ah, I hadn't caught that. It's sometimes difficult to keep track of all
of the people who are trying to get Duke to learn something, anything.
My fault, Free Lunch. I should probably learn to be more explicit with
my phraseology. :)
--
Gospel Bretts
aa Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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15 Jul 2006 02:34:54 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:30:16 -0500, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<ofgib2ls9v00ifhbnb5es18rcnm0pj8nqi@4ax.com>:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
2. It's too late to change your mind.
Unless it turns out there is reincarnation.
It won't.
You are quite smug for someone who has proven himself to be wrong so
many times.
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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15 Jul 2006 02:44:23 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for them.
Why am I not surprised you didn't get the point?
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| User: "655321" |
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15 Jul 2006 05:00:37 PM |
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In article <1152992663.702198.149940@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
"Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 10:13:56 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote:
Not until the moment you die, then you will find out two things:
1. Whether or not you or the Christian was right.
Or the Hindu. Or the Jew. Or the Zoroastrian. Or the Muslim. Or the
Buddhist. Or the ancient Egyptian. Or the African tribesman. Or the
Sikh. Or the Mormon. Or the Rastafarian. Or the ...
These are not Christian, but the Christian God has a spot in his heart for
them.
Why am I not surprised you didn't get the point?
So these non-Christians have a special place in this monster-god's
heart... and yet they burn for eternity nonetheless, allegedly. (It's
in Earl's bloody book of stories, poems, genocide, and confusing rules.)
Hmmm.......
Gives a new meaning to the word "heartburn," I guess.
--
655321
"There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and
AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the
world today." -- Arthur Jensen, 'Network' (1976)
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