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Religions > Atheism |
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"Ray Fischer" |
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31 Mar 2004 10:22:14 PM |
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Re: America loves Bush - get over it |
Steve Mading <spammersMustDie@real-addr-is-madings-at-bmrb-wisc-edu.invalid> wrote:
Now, if what pissed him off most about the US presence in Saudi
Arabia was that the troops where there to prop up a dictatorship
and thus make popular revolution impossible, then I'd have a
little more sympathy for his cause (but not his methods). But,
what really pissed him off was the culture clash. He didn't like
having decadent western ideals corrupting his home country. He
didn't like having a bunch of people around who actually thought
women are, you know, PEOPLE and not property, and who thought
that sex isn't inherently evil, and that religion should be
free, open, and purely optional. It's this that pissed him off,
and this is why I cannot support his cause, and wouldn't even
if he wasn't using terrorism as his method.
Gay marriage.
Abortion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Steve Mading" |
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| Title: Re: America loves Bush - get over it |
19 Apr 2004 03:43:56 PM |
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In talk.atheism Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
: Steve Mading <spammersMustDie@real-addr-is-madings-at-bmrb-wisc-edu.invalid> wrote:
:>Now, if what pissed him off most about the US presence in Saudi
:>Arabia was that the troops where there to prop up a dictatorship
:>and thus make popular revolution impossible, then I'd have a
:>little more sympathy for his cause (but not his methods). But,
:>what really pissed him off was the culture clash. He didn't like
:>having decadent western ideals corrupting his home country. He
:>didn't like having a bunch of people around who actually thought
:>women are, you know, PEOPLE and not property, and who thought
:>that sex isn't inherently evil, and that religion should be
:>free, open, and purely optional. It's this that pissed him off,
:>and this is why I cannot support his cause, and wouldn't even
:>if he wasn't using terrorism as his method.
:
: Gay marriage.
: Abortion.
Was this supposed to mean something? The fact that the US is an
uptight stick-up-the-***** country compared to Europe is irrelevant
since it's still incredibly liberal in comparasin to Saudi Arabia.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: America loves Bush - get over it |
19 Apr 2004 04:31:17 PM |
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"Steve Mading"
<spammersMustDie@real-addr-is-madings-at-bmrb-wisc-edu.invalid> wrote in
message news:c61dmc$jt5$2@news.doit.wisc.edu...
In talk.atheism Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
: Steve Mading
<spammersMustDie@real-addr-is-madings-at-bmrb-wisc-edu.invalid> wrote:
:>Now, if what pissed him off most about the US presence in Saudi
:>Arabia was that the troops where there to prop up a dictatorship
:>and thus make popular revolution impossible, then I'd have a
:>little more sympathy for his cause (but not his methods). But,
:>what really pissed him off was the culture clash. He didn't like
:>having decadent western ideals corrupting his home country. He
:>didn't like having a bunch of people around who actually thought
:>women are, you know, PEOPLE and not property, and who thought
:>that sex isn't inherently evil, and that religion should be
:>free, open, and purely optional. It's this that pissed him off,
:>and this is why I cannot support his cause, and wouldn't even
:>if he wasn't using terrorism as his method.
:
: Gay marriage.
: Abortion.
Was this supposed to mean something? The fact that the US is an
uptight stick-up-the-***** country compared to Europe is irrelevant
since it's still incredibly liberal in comparasin to Saudi Arabia.
No kidding.
Conservatives are spineless, candy-asses when compared to Muslim
conservatives.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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