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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Cary Kittrell"
Date: 22 Nov 2004 01:11:03 PM
Object: Re: American for Jesus Rally
In article <6-OdnWczVNfbqT_cRVn-vg@comcast.com> "Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> writes:


"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote

Wicca and witches started as fiction? Make this one up as well, or did
you have something specific in mind?


Actually, it started during that neo-romantic celtic revival period in the
late nineteenth century- one of those loopy englishmen with too much time
and money on his hands.

"Wicca and witches". You're right to within a within a century of the actual origin
of that silly Wicca business (1930). But Gardiner's works were not novels or sagas
or any other type of storytelling understood by both author and reader to be pleasant
fiction and nothing more. Harry Potter most clearly is.
And witches proper go much further back. Assuming you believe what your Bible says.


Atheism became the state religion in the USSR, which

Atheism started out as a a work of fiction?


Yes; if God is a fiction, active non-belief is even sillier.

We are talking about fictional sagas here, specifically Harry Potter.
Frank segued into a rant about atheism. so I'm asking what novel
or short story spawned atheism.


Do we need to be on guard against the forces of "A Midsummer Night's
Dream",
"Cujo", the Oz series, the "Amityville Horror", and H.P. Lovecraft as
well?


'we' who?

That would be all the `we' who on this thread were solemnly advised
that Harry Potter and Pokemon are religions.
-- cary
.

User: "Chas"

Title: Re: American for Jesus Rally 22 Nov 2004 02:49:26 PM
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote

Actually, it started during that neo-romantic celtic revival period in
the
late nineteenth century- one of those loopy englishmen with too much time
and money on his hands.

"Wicca and witches". You're right to within a within a century of the
actual origin
of that silly Wicca business (1930).

I was thinking the sort of art nouveau period of the late nineteenth cent-
Idylls of the King and all that period of utter dingledangles- pre-Crowley,
but into funny hats.

But Gardiner's works were not novels or sagas
or any other type of storytelling understood by both author and reader to
be pleasant
fiction and nothing more.

No; I'm talking about the eccentric englishman that established wicca;
thought he was resurrecting the druid and all that.

Harry Potter most clearly is.

It's got a real base in neo-romantic 'witchery'- sort of 'mary poppins'.

And witches proper go much further back. Assuming you believe what your
Bible says.

Assuming you know what they mean by 'witch'.
Outside of the idea that they made death magic, their most threatening
aspect was that they were poisoners. Getting good poisons was *hard* and you
went to a specialist.

We are talking about fictional sagas here, specifically Harry Potter.
Frank segued into a rant about atheism. so I'm asking what novel
or short story spawned atheism.

Oh; non-sequitur.
sorry.

That would be all the `we' who on this thread were solemnly advised
that Harry Potter and Pokemon are religions.

both are very 'religious', insofar as they describe a cosmology. Potter is
obvious, and Pokemon is certainly right in line with Shinto beliefs.
Whether one finds that alarming somehow is another matter. I read one of the
Harry Potter books and found it quite charming.
Chas
.


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