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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Pastor Frank"
Date: 06 Dec 2004 06:35:59 AM
Object: Re: American for Jesus Rally
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <4ko9q0dfaj7s7k2r2btqch0uiaunmqo0b7@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier

<lojbab@lojban.org> writes:

"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.com> wrote:


Anything religious MUST be quoted directly from the founding document
of that religion.


Obviously not, since many religions have NO "founding document".


Dude! Of course they do. Consider: "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's

Stone".

"Pokemon and the...the...Pokemon and the..." OK, I'll have to get back
to you on that one.
Since the great majority of all religions which have ever been arose
in pre-literate societies, one has to wonder what in the world
Frank was thinking with that particular bit.

Perhaps you guys haven't noticed, but religious oral transmission has
pretty much ceased since writing was invented. That means that today most
religions are based on a document.
If you want to argue a known religion on the basis of your very own
personal and private prejudices, instead of its founding literature, then
you will be merely talking to yourself.
Pastor Frank
The most important, yet most ignored commandments of Christ:
THE ROYAL LAW OF CHRIST
**Jesus in Mk 12:30: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.
**31: And the second is alike, namely this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
**Jesus in Mat 22:40 "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two
commandments."
THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST
Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
should do to you, do ye even so to them...."
.

User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: American for Jesus Rally 07 Dec 2004 01:50:51 AM
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <4ko9q0dfaj7s7k2r2btqch0uiaunmqo0b7@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier

<

> writes:

"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.com> wrote:


Anything religious MUST be quoted directly from the founding document
of that religion.


Obviously not, since many religions have NO "founding document".


Dude! Of course they do. Consider: "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's

Stone".

"Pokemon and the...the...Pokemon and the..." OK, I'll have to get back
to you on that one.
Since the great majority of all religions which have ever been arose
in pre-literate societies, one has to wonder what in the world
Frank was thinking with that particular bit.

Perhaps you guys haven't noticed, but religious oral transmission has
pretty much ceased since writing was invented. That means that today most
religions are based on a document.

No. Most religions are NOT based on a document. The two largest
religions are based on a document, and you probably don't know much
about the thousands of other religions that are out there without any
documents.

If you want to argue a known religion on the basis of your very own
personal and private prejudices, instead of its founding literature, then
you will be merely talking to yourself.

If you go beyond Christianity and Islam, you'd better go beyond the
founding literature, because you cannot know the religion based on it
scriptures. Indeed, you cannot know the difference between
Catholicism and Protestantism based on the scriptures because the
differences rely on traditions that have evolved over 2000 years which
are not reliant on written text. Nor are the differences between
Sunni and Shiite Moslems found in the Koran, but rather in what has
happened since the Koran was written.
lojbab
--
lojbab

Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: American for Jesus Rally 06 Dec 2004 10:49:14 AM
In article <1102336629.4a871d8fcc3bbbbb5464078852b5e8e3@teranews> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> writes:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:co2vhl$1bq$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <4ko9q0dfaj7s7k2r2btqch0uiaunmqo0b7@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier

<lojbab@lojban.org> writes:

"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.com> wrote:


Anything religious MUST be quoted directly from the founding document
of that religion.


Obviously not, since many religions have NO "founding document".


Dude! Of course they do. Consider: "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's

Stone".

"Pokemon and the...the...Pokemon and the..." OK, I'll have to get back
to you on that one.
Since the great majority of all religions which have ever been arose
in pre-literate societies, one has to wonder what in the world
Frank was thinking with that particular bit.

Perhaps you guys haven't noticed, but religious oral transmission has
pretty much ceased since writing was invented. That means that today most
religions are based on a document.
If you want to argue a known religion on the basis of your very own
personal and private prejudices, instead of its founding literature, then
you will be merely talking to yourself.

I'm curious why you reposted this; we saw it already. And I'm doubly
curious why you resposted it but failed to respond to my answer to
the first transmission, which went something like:

Anything religious MUST be quoted directly from the founding document
of that religion.


Obviously not, since many religions have NO "founding document".


Dude! Of course they do. Consider: "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's

Stone". "Pokemon and the...the...Pokemon and the..." OK, I'll have to get back

to you on that one.
Since the great majority of all religions which have ever been arose
in pre-literate societies, one has to wonder what in the world
Frank was thinking with that particular bit.

Perhaps you guys haven't noticed, but religious oral transmission has
pretty much ceased since writing was invented. That means that today most
religions are based on a document.
If you want to argue a known religion on the basis of your very own
personal and private prejudices, instead of its founding literature, then
you will be merely talking to yourself.

Silly me, I assumed when you said "anything religious" meant "anything",
and not just the tiny fraction of all religions which arose in post-literate
societies.
Even among those, where's the "founding document" of Shinto? Mithra
worship? Zen Buddhism? Vodun? Jainism?
The idea that any religion must have _a_ "founding document" is
a chauvinism found among followers of the religions of The Book.
-- cary
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