I suggest that when Jesus comes to earth again for the
second coming, then he first applies for a management and commnication
skills course. I also suggest that after he has taken this course he
follows
it with an IT course, so he could set up his own website and put his
message
on www for the world to see and comprehend.

I understand fully. What's your problem other than lack of understanding?
It's
clear to me that he is on the perfect plan.

The complete idiocy of the Jesus Christ tale is sound evidence that the
Jesus tale is pure myth.

The Jesus story is totally implausible if not down right ridiculous. It is
not supported by any solid objective verifiable evidence. Should we believe
in a god for which there is NO solid objective evidence? That is why this
belief is based purely on faith in totally implausible stories, not factual
evidence.


This all powerful God supposedly created this huge Universe that is over 13
BILLION years old. What it was and how long it existed before the Big Bang,
we simply do not know.



The Universe is more than 20 BILLION LIGHT YEARS" in diameter (light travels
at 86,000 miles per SECOND). How much larger it is we just simply don't
know. It consists of many trillions of stars and planets. The earth is but a
speck of dust in this huge Universe. There are over 6 1/2 BILLION humans on
this earth at present. Many billions more have existed before now but have
died. Man is but a grain of sand on a large beach relative to the size of
the Earth. Why would the creator of this Universe be concerned about these
billions of specks of dust?



This all powerful omnipotent God supposedly created all of this.



Now this God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named
Jesus to save mankind from the sins that God himself created. Man has been
on earth approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to
come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he himself
created!)?



This all powerful creator of the Universe came to Earth as a baby in a
manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a virgin called Mary.



If Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
Joseph, why was she still a virgin? And what difference does it make?



He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years except
working as a carpenter. After about thirty years abandoned his carpentry and
announced to the local inhabitants that he was Jesus the God savior sent
from heaven to tell them God's wishes and commands. There are NO records of
his existence in the non religious documents of the era.



Jesus was baptized. In Christianity, baptism is the sacrament of
regeneration and initiation into the Christian church. According to a theme
of St. Paul the Apostle, baptism is death to a former life and the emergence
of a new person, signified by the conferring of a new name; it is the total
annulment of the sin of one's past, from which one emerges a totally
innocent person.



Why would a 'god Jesus' need to be baptized?



His sermons and teachings only reached a miniscule part of the world
population at that time because he did not speak via International Radio or
TV. IF he was an ALL powerful creator of the world, he certainly would have
had the ability to speak to ALL of mankind. Why did this all powerful god
creator wait 100,000 years to come and preach to only a very small segment
of the world, for a period of less than three years, and then leave us
without ANY solid objective evidence of his existence, his wishes and
commands?



Why did he not use his great omnipotent powers to preach to the WHOLE world
from his Heaven, instead of just preaching to an insignificant portion of
the world?? Why did he leave most of in the dark?



He supposedly distributed his word via books called the Bibles. Yet NONE of
the Bibles were written during his supposed time on earth. The original
Bibles were written more than 1500 years before the invention of the
printing press. There is no evidence that Jesus ever wrote a word. NO
ORIGINAL copies of ANY of the Bibles exist. Why did he not preserve them?
The Bibles now in existence are hand copies of copies etc. of unknown and
doubtful veracity. The four books of the New Testament were written and
copied over 60 years and more AFTER Jesus' supposed existence. None of the
authors could have known him directly. They are all third person and more
narratives of doubtful veracity. Why would a real god not arrange for the
creation of clear, authentic, contemporary and permanent copies of his word?



The Bibles are hand copied and recopied documents loaded with
contradictions, obvious myths, implausible tales and absurdities. Why would
this omnipotent God, creator of this huge Universe, provide his message in
such a sloppy, inaccurate, unreliable and confusing manor???



During his brief adulthood, preaching his word, he is 'claimed' to have
restored site to a few of the blind, restored mobility to a few of the
crippled and restored health to a few of the sick. Why was he so niggardly
about helping the poor and disabled?



After some two or three years of preaching, to only the locals, he allowed
himself to be painfully and brutally crucified on a cross between two
criminals to pay for man's sins (which he created).



The Roman courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not condemned
without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found
guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought
before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of
wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he found
him innocent; but the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify him!" and to please
the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man whom he had found innocent, should
be delivered to the executioners to be crucified! Also, real criminals were
crucified by being 'tied' to the cross - not nailed!



If Jesus performed the wonderful miracles the New Testament describes, why
did the people want him crucified? Is it not amazing that a civilized people
would demand that a kind and loving man who went about doing good works, who
preached forgiveness, cleansed the leprous, and raised the dead - that they
could not be appeased until they had crucified the noblest benefactor of
mankind?



If he could create the Universe and every thing in it, why did he not just
forgive man's sins, directly from his heaven, without all this blood and
gore? Three days after he died he supposedly rose from the dead and returned
to his heaven. Why did he wait until three days after his death to return to
his magnificent heaven?



What was the logic and purpose of so gruesomely and painful killing? Only a
miniscule part of the population at the time would be aware of this claimed
sacrifice.

Billions of people today are still not believers of his story.



He supposedly went through this torture and humiliating death to pay for
mans sins which he himself created! Why did he not just wave his wand and
forgive mans sins and skip all the ridiculous blood and gore??? Why did he
create sin in the first place?



Why does he encourage or permit Christians to drink his blood and eat his
flesh? Isn't this a pagan ritual?



Why does he continue to allow thousands of greedy self serving men to
deliver his word to his flock in such a vague, inconsistent, contradictory
manor and ineffectual manner? There are hundreds of different Christian
sects and beliefs. There are thousands of different religious beliefs and
practices. Why does he allow this gross confusion? Why does he not
communicate clearly and DIRECTLY to his entire flock that he is the real god
and all the others are fakes? It would be nice and more effective to
eliminate this gross confusion?



If he is the real god, why does he even permit the belief and propagation of
thousands of false gods and false religions?



The Christ tale is obviously pure myth and legend.



The objective evidence is that God did not create man but quite the
contrary; that man created Gods!



"Paul David" <pdavis@pdavis.com> wrote in message
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"Stanley F. Nelson" <stan2345@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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My suspicion is that our God and Father, the uncreated Creator of all we
know and do not know. is endlessly amused by those strange human beings
who presume to know His mind, and being either unwilling or unable to
accept Him by faith alone, are so presumptuous they speak for Him and
tell us what He is thinking or doing.

One reason God came to earth in Jesus our Lord was that we might have
life and have it more abundantly. The confusion we suffer about who He
is and what He is doing and what He wants for us is entirely our
confusion and not His.

Utter rubbish!! You are wrong. I can assure you without even the
slightest doubt that if God came to earth in Jesus then the confusion we
suffer about who He is entirely HIS confusion and lack of communication
skills, not ours. I suggest that when Jesus comes to earth again for the
second coming, then he first applies for a management and commnication
skills course. I also suggest that after he has taken this course he
follows it with an IT course, so he could set up his own website and put
his message on www for the world to see and comprehend.