| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"" |
| Date: |
21 Jul 2006 03:12:25 PM |
| Object: |
Re: An Atheist Disagrees with Mr. Clifton, AHH-GAIN |
wrote:
:|Hotel Charlie One wrote:
:|>
:|> I still haven't seen you admit the "E Pluribus Unum" *was* the
:|> nation'a motto before it was changed to "In God We Trust".
:|
:|E Pluribus Unum was never the national motto. It was one of three
:|mottos that was included on the Seal of the United States adopted in
:|1782.
:|
:|The other two mottos that share the distinction are
:|
:|Annuit Coeptis="God has favored our beginning"
:|
:|and
:|
:|Novus Ordo Seclorum="A New Order of the Ages"
:|
:|It is just as wrongheaded to state that Annuit Coeptis was the national
:|motto before In God We Trust became it.
:|
:|The fact that E Pluribus Unum was NEVER the national motto was clearly
:|stated by Congress in 1956. The House of Representatives reported, "at
:|the present the United States has no national motto."
:|
:|Source: Congressional Record: House Report, 84th Congress, 1959 (1956),
:|p. 1.
:|
:|I trust that you will do as you expect others to do and "admit" your
:|error.
BTW dude you might like this in your honor
Announcing the return of Richard Gardiner, AKA Ambrose Searle AKA
Cartmanesq
Yesterday after being gone for some time R Gardiner returned to this
group as a member.
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SOME Background
Jul 19, 2005 11:24 pm cartmanesq <cartmanesq@yahoo.com> Joined group
via web
Mar 25, 2006 8:42 am cartmanesq <cartmanesq@yahoo.com> Removed by
moderator by buckeyeelo <buckeyeelo@yahoo.com> via web
Jul 18, 2006 5:00 pm cartmanesq <cartmanesq@yahoo.com> Joined group
via web
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As the above shows he joined this group July 19, 2005
He proceeded to snoop around, never participating in the group here
but did post about goings on at this group in the UseNet Newsgroups
( In March 2006 I removed him since his email account showed he was
bouncing and sending a Email Account Reactivation didn't correct
the situation.
Since he re-joined yesterday his account shows he is still bouncing
and it has this message with it
-- --- ---
Last Bounced Message
Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd Sorry your message to
cartmanesq@yahoo.com cannot be delivered. This account has been
disabled or discontinued [#102]. - mta292.mail.scd.yahoo.com )
One example:
From:
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.atheism,alt.education
Subject: Re: Problems with the term "church and state:"
Date: 24 Aug 2005 19:54:22 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/f480636935d1a56a?hl=\
en&
[excerpt]
------
Even to your friends, when they don't support you, you say "Oh come on.
You gonna play Gar[d]iner here?" Which, as you know, evoked an
extremely passionate dispute between you and your comrades:
To wit, One of your comrades (Michele) summarized your problem of you
little private newsgroup--
-------------
(the following was posted by freethink0000 at the Hampton Roads CnS
yahoo newsgroup on Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:02 pm )
So let me see if I get the rules of this forum straight.........
1) Never disagree with Jim or Newdow. If one does s/he will promptly
be labeled a "liar" or a "hater".
2) It is okay for Jim to come here making a claim and then quickly
step back saying, "Oh no...I can't tell you what my proof is." Anyone
insisting on proof is quickly labeled a "liar" or a "hater".
3) Jim and Newdow are infallible, and anyone suggesting fallibility is
quickly labeled a "liar" and a "hater".
[end quote]
-------------
You ***** your good buddy Mike Curtis so badly by referring to
him as "gardiner," that he insisted upon an apology and ultimately
responded by saying "I think it is time for Newdow to grow up and
become a man."
You took it upon yourself without any provocation to share Gardiner's
*family history* in political newsgroups.
(http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/3685d643b85da221)
You have suggested to Carol Smith that Gardiner be KIDNAPPED: "Your
fist talsk should u acept it is to kidnap Gardiner, he is in your area
apparently, hold hi[m] hostage" (posted by jim allison to his yahoo
group on June 28, 2005).
Jim, it doesn't take much of a psychoanalyst to see here that you have
a real psychological fixation with "Gardiner." You really seem to need
help.
[end excerpt]
****************************************************************************
The above quotes he provided were quotes taken from exchanges between
members of this group back in March 2005 and as often as not out of
context and very mislweading.
Don't expect him to participate this time here either, he doesn't have
the gonads for that. but i did want to give a heads up that he is back.
He pops up for a hit and run post in the Newsgroups from time to time.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up that we have a theocratic type
among us.
As long as he is bouncing her won't receive any of the posted messages
in his email inbox but being a member does give him access to this
group to snoop around etc
.
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