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21 Jul 2006 03:13:02 PM |
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Re: An Atheist Disagrees with Mr. Clifton, AHH-GAIN |
wrote:
:|Hotel Charlie One wrote:
:|>
:|> I still haven't seen you admit the "E Pluribus Unum" *was* the
:|> nation'a motto before it was changed to "In God We Trust".
:|
:|E Pluribus Unum was never the national motto. It was one of three
:|mottos that was included on the Seal of the United States adopted in
:|1782.
:|
:|The other two mottos that share the distinction are
:|
:|Annuit Coeptis="God has favored our beginning"
:|
:|and
:|
:|Novus Ordo Seclorum="A New Order of the Ages"
:|
:|It is just as wrongheaded to state that Annuit Coeptis was the national
:|motto before In God We Trust became it.
:|
:|The fact that E Pluribus Unum was NEVER the national motto was clearly
:|stated by Congress in 1956. The House of Representatives reported, "at
:|the present the United States has no national motto."
:|
:|Source: Congressional Record: House Report, 84th Congress, 1959 (1956),
:|p. 1.
:|
:|I trust that you will do as you expect others to do and "admit" your
:|error.
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church/state seperation
.... topic with Searle AKA Gardiner None of which refute the fact that the
founders proposed
"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God" as a national motto, which ...
alt.politics.usa.constitution - Nov 18 2003, 4:43 pm by ambrose searle -
446 messages - 37 authors
PROOF THAT THE FOUNDERS wanted a religious motto for the US ...
.... that there is a former act of the government declaring another national
motto. You
have failed to provide any evidence to that effect. Searle/Gardiner, the
pot ...
alt.atheism - Feb 1 2004, 1:30 pm by Carol Lee Smith - 216 messages - 24
authors
PROOF THAT THE FOUNDERS wanted a religious motto for the US ...
.... Oh, and that demolishes Searle's argument that there WAS NO national
motto until
1956, and from the very source HE employed to make HIS claim! ...
law.court.federal - Feb 4 2004, 12:20 pm by Steve Krulick - 32 messages - 4
authors
Oral Arguments for "The Pledge" set.
.... that doesn't address the "obedience to God" national motto of
Jefferson, Franklin,
and Adams. Message 240 in thread From: ambrose searle (ambrosesearle@yahoo
....
misc.education - Jan 18 2004, 1:47 am by ambrose searle - 355 messages - 27
authors
Buckeye Allison's futile "rebuttal"
.... on this one, because JEFFERSON HIMSELF wanted a religious national
motto that
accompanied a ... substance, and had to refrain from focusing on "Searle
AKA Gardiner ...
alt.politics.libertarian - Jan 14 2004, 8:12 pm by bob - 22 messages - 5
authors
Under God
.... Searle makes several blatant assertions here, and nowhere actually
cites the journals
to ... they had created a national entity, hence the "national" motto and
the ...
alt.atheism - Jul 20 2002, 7:41 am by - 619 messages - 53
authors
Installment #3: the latest TOP TEN LIST OF ATHEIST BUFFOONS ...
.... January 30, 2004, asserted that at some time, "E Pluribus Unum" was
declared THE
national motto.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2004.01.30.20.38.21. ...
alt.atheism - Feb 4 2004, 6:53 am by bob - 26 messages - 9 authors
Take religion out of politics
ambrosesea...@yahoo.com (ambrose searle) wrote: CONGRESS REMOVED ...
approved of a religious
motto for the ... and John Adams proposed the national motto, inter alia
....
alt.atheism - Jan 21 2004, 9:16 am by Roger - 1458 messages - 110 authors
Moore is a liar
ambrose searle wrote: Go suck an egg, troll. ... There is nothing in the
ContCong
Journals about a "national" anything regarding seal or motto. ...
alt.atheism - Sep 26 2003, 12:48 pm by - 834
messages - 36 authors
PROOF THAT THE FOUNDERS wanted a religious motto for the US ...
Some opponents of the National motto, "In God We Trust," try to claim that
the US founders would never have approved of such a motto. ...
alt.bible - Jan 30 2004, 10:31 pm by Glenn \(Christian Mystic\) - 1 message
- 1 author
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Results 1 - 10 of 89 for national motto gardiner (0.18
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PROOF THAT THE FOUNDERS wanted a religious motto for the US ...
.... But more important, for all of Gardiner/Searle's UPPERCASING of "At
present the
United States has no national motto" he seemed, as is SOOOOOO typical of
him ...
alt.politics.usa.constitution - Feb 3 2004, 11:28 pm by Steve Krulick - 220
messages - 28 authors
Buckeye Allison's futile "rebuttal"
.... on this one, because JEFFERSON HIMSELF wanted a religious national
motto that
accompanied a ... and had to refrain from focusing on "Searle AKA Gardiner"
he wouldn ...
alt.politics.usa.constitution - Jan 13 2004, 9:19 am by ambrose searle - 15
messages - 5 authors
Oral Arguments for "The Pledge" set.
.... quoted but misrepresented, it says it was the first national motto. ...
It will be fun
to compare his motto article which carries the name Gardiner with some ...
alt.society.liberalism - Feb 4 2004, 1:53 pm by -
352 messages - 24 authors
church/state seperation
.... with Searle AKA Gardiner None of which refute the fact that the
founders proposed
"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God" as a national motto, which
proves ...
alt.politics.usa.constitution - Nov 18 2003, 4:43 pm by ambrose searle -
446 messages - 37 authors
Separation of Church and State is a Christian concept
.... Religion perveys all aspects of this country's founding. You been
talking to Gardiner
too long. perveys? ... Does that bother you as much as the National motto?
....
alt.atheism - Jul 25 2000, 10:07 pm by Rick Gardiner - 276 messages - 24
authors
Ohio's motto violates US Constitution
.... Religion perveys all aspects of this country's founding. You been
talking to Gardiner
too long. perveys? ... Does that bother you as much as the National motto?
....
alt.history - Apr 30 2000, 5:37 pm by - 32 messages - 6
authors
Under God
However, it appears that Searle/Gardiner has left us. ... They clearly had
a sense that
they had created a national entity, hence the "national" motto and the ...
alt.atheism - Jul 20 2002, 7:41 am by - 619 messages - 53
authors
Deism Dominant in Colonial Times?
.... it comes to our national motto, What is the national motto and when did
it become
the national motto? ... I wonder how you can be so blind to what Gardiner
is doing ...
alt.history.colonial - Jan 30 2000, 9:02 pm by - 638
messages - 42 authors
Program for the 1790s
.... Religion perveys all aspects of this country's founding. You been
talking to Gardiner
too long. perveys? ... Does that bother you as much as the National motto?
....
alt.revisionism - May 3 2000, 11:47 am by - 318 messages -
32 authors
Religion and the Early American Republic
.... about chaplains in congress. I'm not the one out there attempting to
get
our national motto off of our currency. You seem to be ...
soc.history - Dec 27 1999, 7:19 pm by Rick Gardiner - 19 messages - 7
authors
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