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Date: 25 Jun 2004 05:12:28 PM
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Anthology Of Fools
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>
You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.
If you would study science without filtering it through your bible, you
might actually learn something.
Alas, that is too much to hope for.
--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.
"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll
.

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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 25 Jun 2004 07:49:30 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your bible, you
might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for you :-)
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 25 Jun 2004 09:59:46 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your bible, you
might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for you :-)

I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar to this
helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also convinced me of
how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for the
existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be reconciled
to it's own alleged teachings.
I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had exposure to
all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of your
writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of context. The
"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific community.
If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god, perhaps you
should examine your faith more closely.
If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific community for the
existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.
Try thinking for yourself.
--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.
"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll
.
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 25 Jun 2004 11:04:52 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar to this
helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also convinced me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for the
existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be reconciled
to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had exposure to
all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of your
writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god, perhaps you
should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific community for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.

Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence from the
peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god please
provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.
.
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 25 Jun 2004 11:13:07 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also convinced me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for the
existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of your
writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god, perhaps you
should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific community for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.

Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god please
provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.

The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your god
exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the atheist
newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.
--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.
"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll
.
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 26 Jun 2004 05:39:21 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for the
existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of your
writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god, perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god please
provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your god
exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the atheist
newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God
I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your god
exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the atheist
newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.
But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the laws of
science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.
To say ther eis no God requires you to know all of the evidence and to know
all of the evidence you must be like God.
Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend so much
time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)
.
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 26 Jun 2004 07:06:55 PM
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of science.
Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for the
existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god, perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god please
provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your god
exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the atheist
newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the laws of
science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say ther eis no God requires you to know all of the evidence and to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.

I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient evidence to
justify belief in a god.

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend so much
time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)

Very, very old tactic!
I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa Claus. I
can't hate what doesn't exist.
Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god please
present it.
--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.
"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Invisible
Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the evidence and to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient evidence to
justify belief in a god.

+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have seen all of
the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa Claus. I
can't hate what doesn't exist.

In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the validity of
atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist circles;
at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove a
negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say that
atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not exist.
But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient.

Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god please
present it.

+Love the short case :)--More proof you hate your God.
Since there are no proofs for atheism's truth and there are no proofs that
there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the basis of
adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and negate
any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give intellectual
credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum in
which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen as more
intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and
evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to self-proclaimed
life.


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"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
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unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
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Conflict Of Atheist & Believer



<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda

similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity

of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the

scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just

wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your

god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the

laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the evidence and to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient evidence

to

justify belief in a god.


+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have seen all of
the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa Claus. I
can't hate what doesn't exist.


In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the validity

of

atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist

circles;

at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove a
negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say that
atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not exist.
But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient.

You are the one posting in alt.atheism claiming that there is evidence for
the existance of god and against evolution.
We don't have to prove god doen't exist that's your task.
Since the question of evolution has been settled for 150 years, you need to
provide evidence that clear shows that science is wrong.


Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god please
present it.

+Love the short case :)--More proof you hate your God.
Since there are no proofs for atheism's truth and there are no proofs

that

there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the basis of
adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and negate
any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give intellectual
credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum in
which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen as more
intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and
evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to self-proclaimed
life.

You are so brainwashed by religion that you deny science.


--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll













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Conflict Of Atheist & Believer



<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through

your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was

designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda

similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse

for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even

be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the validity

of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out

of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the

scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just

wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW

evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove your

god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the

laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the evidence and

to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient evidence

to

justify belief in a god.


+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have seen all

of

the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa Claus.

I

can't hate what doesn't exist.


In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the

validity

of

atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist

circles;

at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove a
negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say that
atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not exist.
But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient.


You are the one posting in alt.atheism claiming that there is evidence for
the existance of god and against evolution.

+Not only do I possess aphd in science but even with my mastery of English
as my second language I still use a spell checker(something you should try)+

We don't have to prove god doen't exist that's your task.

Since the question of evolution has been settled for 150 years, you need

to

provide evidence that clear shows that science is wrong.

+Evolution has been proven wrong and billed as science fiction propagated by
atheists on the university payrolls+
Too much fact goinfg against the theory these days and you hate that don't
you :)

Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god please
present it.

+Love the short case :)--More proof you hate your God.
Since there are no proofs for atheism's truth and there are no proofs

that

there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the basis of
adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and

negate

any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give

intellectual

credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum in
which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen as

more

intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and
evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to self-proclaimed
life.


You are so brainwashed by religion that you deny science.

+Actually is it science that has lead me to my religion,you are so
brainwashed by your faith the you deny science+
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it through

your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was

designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda

similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every excuse

for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot even

be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have

had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the

validity

of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted out

of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the

scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just

wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW

evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of

god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove

your

god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in

the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when the

laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the evidence

and

to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient

evidence

to

justify belief in a god.


+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have seen

all

of

the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists spend

so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa

Claus.

I

can't hate what doesn't exist.


In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the

validity

of

atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist

circles;

at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove a
negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say that
atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not

exist.

But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient.


You are the one posting in alt.atheism claiming that there is evidence

for

the existance of god and against evolution.


+Not only do I possess aphd in science but even with my mastery of English
as my second language I still use a spell checker(something you should

try)+


We don't have to prove god doen't exist that's your task.

Since the question of evolution has been settled for 150 years, you need

to

provide evidence that clear shows that science is wrong.


+Evolution has been proven wrong and billed as science fiction propagated

by

atheists on the university payrolls+
Too much fact goinfg against the theory these days and you hate that don't
you :)

Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god

please

present it.

+Love the short case :)--More proof you hate your God.
Since there are no proofs for atheism's truth and there are no proofs

that

there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the basis

of

adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and

negate

any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give

intellectual

credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum

in

which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen as

more

intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and
evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to

self-proclaimed

life.


You are so brainwashed by religion that you deny science.

+Actually is it science that has lead me to my religion,you are so
brainwashed by your faith the you deny science+

Whatever...
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<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension

of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it

through

your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life

filtered

through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the

truth

unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was

designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading propaganda

similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It

also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every

excuse

for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot

even

be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us have

had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the

validity

of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted

out

of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the

scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your

god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are just

wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW

evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence of

god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to prove

your

god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to

prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in

the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in

the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when

the

laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the evidence

and

to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient

evidence

to

justify belief in a god.


+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have seen

all

of

the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists

spend

so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa

Claus.

I

can't hate what doesn't exist.


In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the

validity

of

atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist

circles;

at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove

a

negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say

that

atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not

exist.

But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient.


You are the one posting in alt.atheism claiming that there is evidence

for

the existance of god and against evolution.


+Not only do I possess aphd in science but even with my mastery of

English

as my second language I still use a spell checker(something you should

try)+


We don't have to prove god doen't exist that's your task.

+And your task is to prove that there is no God before making that
remarkable claim+

Since the question of evolution has been settled for 150 years, you

need

to

provide evidence that clear shows that science is wrong.


+Evolution has been proven wrong and billed as science fiction

propagated

by

atheists on the university payrolls+
Too much fact goinfg against the theory these days and you hate that

don't

you :)

Now if you have indisputable evidence for the existance of god

please

present it.

+Love the short case :)--More proof you hate your God.
Since there are no proofs for atheism's truth and there are no

proofs

that

there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the

basis

of

adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and

negate

any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give

intellectual

credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum

in

which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen

as

more

intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and
evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to

self-proclaimed

life.


You are so brainwashed by religion that you deny science.

+Actually is it science that has lead me to my religion,you are so
brainwashed by your faith the you deny science+


Whatever...

+That's your argument? Whatever?+
FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW
First, evolution makes atheists out of people and lowers morality. Charles
Darwin, in a famous statement, admitted the fact. He said that, since people
were descended from apes, then mankind is totally untrustworthy and morally
bankrupt. Evolution teaches that savage competition and warfare is the
highest good and best source of development.
Second, evolution is riddled with fallacious thinking. As you will quickly
see in this series, evolution ignores the most obvious facts and twists and
misapplies evidence to fit its objective. Correct logical reasoning is based
upon correct premises; if the premises are wrong, the conclusions built upon
them will be skewed and unreliable. In the schools of today, evolutionists
teach men to ignore and misapply facts.
Third, evolution is false science-and most people, not having been trained
to work with scientific tools, feel unable to successfully reply to
"science." Please, do not let the subject buffalo you! The problem is not
science, but evolutionary interpretations. Although you may not have been
educated in scientific research methods, you can understand the basic facts;
and that is what counts. All that it takes is common sense. In these books,
you will read the facts and find that they disprove evolution.
It has been said that every fact of science can be explained either by
creation or evolution. Actually, that is not correct. Most scientific facts
can be explained better by creation than by evolution. Indeed, most facts
cannot be adequately explained by evolution at all!
Fourth, evolution floods the media and the schools with its message. It
seems impossible to withstand or oppose the deluge. Yet there is a way: Let
the people know the basic facts, so they can learn the truth for themselves.
The facts disproving evolution are not complicated. They appeal to thinking
minds far better than evolutionary myths.
Fifth, it is made to appear as if all the scientists are on the side of
evolutionary theory. Yet that is untrue. Many reputable scientists clearly
recognize its falsity (although there are also many who fear to speak up,
lest they lose their jobs). In this series, we provide you with thousands of
statements by scientists who do not believe in evolutionary theory.
.
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Title: Re: Anthology Of Fools 27 Jun 2004 10:54:24 AM
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<snip>

+That's your argument? Whatever?+
FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW
First, evolution makes atheists out of people and lowers morality. Charles
Darwin, in a famous statement, admitted the fact. He said that, since

people

were descended from apes, then mankind is totally untrustworthy and

morally

bankrupt. Evolution teaches that savage competition and warfare is the
highest good and best source of development.

This is false. I and others (probably even you, though you wouldn't admit
it) are aquainted with several persons who accept evolution and are clearly
not atheists. What Darwin may or may not have said is irrelevant -
scientific theories are not people and do not gain or lose credibility
depending on the personal characteristics of their supporters or detractors.
If mankind is totally untrustworthy then you represent a shining example of
that very untrustworthyness despite your claim to a higher moral standard.
Religions, including yours, are just another wonderful example of that
"savage competition" of which you speak.

Second, evolution is riddled with fallacious thinking. As you will quickly
see in this series, evolution ignores the most obvious facts and twists

and

misapplies evidence to fit its objective. Correct logical reasoning is

based

upon correct premises; if the premises are wrong, the conclusions built

upon

them will be skewed and unreliable. In the schools of today, evolutionists
teach men to ignore and misapply facts.

All very interesting assertions on your part. I don't suppose we'll ever see
anything specific to respond to. Nice little rant though. Speaking as a
teacher in the schools of today, I allow my kids to explore the issue if
they wish. See my previous threads on "My Science Project". The kids always
are able to distinguish science from religion. Why can't you? For that
matter, my challenge still stands: if any creationist can demonstrate that
creationism is an empirical science I will remove it from part 2 "what is an
example of non-science" of the project. Care to try? Didn't think so.

Third, evolution is false science-and most people, not having been trained
to work with scientific tools, feel unable to successfully reply to
"science." Please, do not let the subject buffalo you! The problem is not
science, but evolutionary interpretations. Although you may not have been
educated in scientific research methods, you can understand the basic

facts;

and that is what counts. All that it takes is common sense. In these

books,

you will read the facts and find that they disprove evolution.

Again, since you claim to know so much about the ways of science. Would you
please demonstrate how creationism is an empirical science. Where did my
kids go wrong in coming to the conclusion that creationism is a
manifestation of one's religious beliefs and not a science? C'mon, give it a
try since you're so confident. Spit it out. Answer the question: "How is
creationism an empirical science?"

It has been said that every fact of science can be explained either by
creation or evolution. Actually, that is not correct. Most scientific

facts

can be explained better by creation than by evolution. Indeed, most facts
cannot be adequately explained by evolution at all!

Don't be silly. Anything can be explained by "God did it" or "God wanted it
that way". But, that's not how science operates now, is it?

Fourth, evolution floods the media and the schools with its message. It
seems impossible to withstand or oppose the deluge. Yet there is a way:

Let

the people know the basic facts, so they can learn the truth for

themselves.

The facts disproving evolution are not complicated. They appeal to

thinking

minds far better than evolutionary myths.

I do let my kids know the basic facts. Actually, I let them discover it by
themselves - I just turn 'em loose and let 'em go! It absolutely blows you
guys out of the water. Was that what you wanted? Of course not. What I find
so funny about you folks is how paradoxical you are.

Fifth, it is made to appear as if all the scientists are on the side of
evolutionary theory. Yet that is untrue. Many reputable scientists clearly
recognize its falsity (although there are also many who fear to speak up,
lest they lose their jobs). In this series, we provide you with thousands

of

statements by scientists who do not believe in evolutionary theory.

So any day now we will see "creation science" texts in the science section
of university bookstores. University students will enroll in credit courses
of "creation science" as part of their Biology major. Is this the dream of
creationists? The last university text that I bought to supplement my high
school teaching contains no less than four chapters devoted entirely to the
topic of evolution. It even covers abiogenesis. In a reflection of
Dobzhansky's (sp?) famous 1973 book on "Evolution" where he said "Nothing in
Biology makes sense except in the light of evolution" this text makes
frequent reference to evolution in ALL of its chapters to explain biological
diversity. Thousands of statements by scientists who do no believe in
evolutionary theory? What a laugh! Quote mining is hardly a science although
you guys certainly make a wonderful artform of it. Can we just have one of
those thousands of scientists explain how creationism is a science? Or the
theory of Scientific creationism and how we can test it using the scientific
method? Can even one of them demonstrate how my grade 11 science class
totally missed the boat in their research project?
Of course not.
Keep on ranting.
.

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Anthology Of Fools
Conflict Of Atheist & Believer



<snip lame attempt to show science proves god>>

You have once again proven you have no comprehension

of

science.

Or reality.

If you would study science without filtering it

through

your

bible,

you

might actually learn something.

Alas, that is too much to hope for.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life

filtered

through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of

human

nature that it does not believe a man can tell the

truth

unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower

opinion

of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

And you have proven that once again that article was

designed

for

you

:-)




I used to be a believer (years ago) but reading

propaganda

similar

to

this

helped convince me that there is no way it is true. It

also

convinced

me

of

how desperately some hang on to faith and make every

excuse

for

the

existence of a god who logically can't exist. It cannot

even

be

reconciled

to it's own alleged teachings.

I understand your need to proselytize but most of us

have

had

exposure

to

all the arguments for religion and cannot accept the

validity

of

your

writings.
Your cites from legitimate scientists are cut and pasted

out

of

context.

The

"creation scientists" you quote are discredited in the

scientific

community.

If you need to be dishonest to support claims for your

god,

perhaps

you

should examine your faith more closely.

If you have NEW evidence from the peer reviewed

scientific

community

for

the

existence of god please provide it. Otherwise you are

just

wasting

time.


Try thinking for yourself.

--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

Ho Hum,the small mentality of the atheist,If you have NEW

evidence

from

the

peer reviewed scientific community for the non-existence

of

god

please

provide it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.


The burdon of proof is on the claimant. I don't need to

prove

your

god

as

well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and

the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to

prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone

in

the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science

textbook.


--
aa #2182 Desdinova - EAC Harvester of Eyes
There are none so blind as those who view life filtered
through the stained glass of church windows.

"Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human
nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth
unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion
of the human race has ever been expressed."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll



The burdon of proof is on the claimant.

So you have the *burdon* of proof to claim there is no God

I don't need to prove your god as
well as the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the

Invisible

Pink Unicorn don't exist. That's how it works. You need to

prove

your

god

exists.
Without proof you don't stand a chance of convincing anyone in

the

atheist

newsgroup. Like I said open your mind and a science textbook.

But you make the equally remarkable claim there is no God when

the

laws

of

science prove intelligent(not on your part)design.

No legitimate science proves that.

To say there is no God requires you to know all of the

evidence

and

to

know

all of the evidence you must be like God.


I don't say there is no god. I assert that there insufficient

evidence

to

justify belief in a god.


+But to say there is insufficient evidence means that you have

seen

all

of

the evidence and that is impossible+

Youre problem is that you hate God and that is why atheists

spend

so

much

time attacking their *invisible unicorn* :)


Very, very old tactic!

+Some truths never die+

I don't hate god anymore than I hate the Easter bunny or Santa

Claus.

I

can't hate what doesn't exist.


In discussions with atheists, I don't hear any evidence for the

validity

of

atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist

circles;

at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't

prove

a

negative regarding God's existence. Of course, that isn't to say