Re: Appeals Court: Ten Commandments Monument is Constitutional



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 17 Jan 2005 07:09:57 PM
Object: Re: Appeals Court: Ten Commandments Monument is Constitutional

Carol Lee Smith wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, CB wrote:

Only if one religion is singled out. Since the
ban applies to all religions, there is no discrimination.
What is so wrong with a secular school?


It teaches one to be ones own god when we all know what happens

when

man relies on his own Humanity, he becomes inhumane.


No, he does unto others what he would have done to him.

We are spiritual by nature, denying the spirit within denies

higher

order, higher authority and any accountability that goes with.


What is "spiritual"?

MOther nature is pretty powerful. Who denies her?

Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights.


What are god-given rights? And, how do you know that? Who enforces
god-given rights? gods?

Dana P. Raffaniello avoided answer the questions:

Any good book about Natural Law will answer that question.

That sounds like a cop out. You apparently don't know enough
about "natural law" or god-given rights to speak to such matters.

And if you really have to ask the question, than maybe you are better

off

being a socialist/communist who can only be told by the government

what

rights you are allowed to have.

If you really can't answer the question, me thinks you know very
little.

For people who value liberty and
freedom, the answers to your questions are self evident.

For people following the exchanges, they probably notice you are
unable to discuss the matter.
You might consider that natural law can only be enforced by
nature.
LR
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User: "Dana"

Title: Re: Appeals Court: Ten Commandments Monument is Constitutional 17 Jan 2005 11:26:27 PM
wrote:


Carol Lee Smith wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, CB wrote:

Only if one religion is singled out. Since the
ban applies to all religions, there is no discrimination.
What is so wrong with a secular school?


It teaches one to be ones own god when we all know what happens

when

man relies on his own Humanity, he becomes inhumane.


No, he does unto others what he would have done to him.

We are spiritual by nature, denying the spirit within denies

higher

order, higher authority and any accountability that goes with.


What is "spiritual"?

MOther nature is pretty powerful. Who denies her?

Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights.


What are god-given rights? And, how do you know that? Who enforces
god-given rights? gods?


Dana P. Raffaniello avoided answer the questions:

Not at all.


Any good book about Natural Law will answer that question.


That sounds like a cop out.

Not at all.

And if you really have to ask the question, than maybe you are better

off

being a socialist/communist who can only be told by the government

what

rights you are allowed to have.


For people who value liberty and
freedom, the answers to your questions are self evident.

You might consider that natural law can only be enforced by
nature.

Keep believing that. What happens when man in nature forms societies??



LR

.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Appeals Court: Ten Commandments Monument is Constitutional 17 Jan 2005 09:56:00 PM
On 17 Jan 2005 11:09:57 -0800,
said in alt.atheism:

You might consider that natural law can only be enforced by
nature.

Actually natural law, being descriptive, not proscriptive, can't be
"enforced". How can "matter attracts matter" be "enforced"? How can
the law of conservation of momentum be "enforced"?
--
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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