Religions > Atheism > Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan?
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28 Jul 2004 06:00:15 AM |
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Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? |
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:41067DE3.8BF5EA01@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Mike Rhodes wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:47:23 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as real as
you
create "him" to be.
You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and fantasies. -- L.
There is truth to that. Unfortunately, Christians force themselves to
pretend that all words therein accepted by the 'authorities' as THE
inspired Word of God are (as if in fact), THE Inspired Word of God.
When a noteworthy part of it is obviously (as even Libertarius can
see) a man's approach (write or wrong).
Christians have NO PROOF that the Bible is all God's Word.
Yet they act as if they do. And they act is if it's the other
guy's fault for misinterpreting God's intention. Admit it, there are
direct conflicts.
But one thing I do know, Libertarius, the Bible is NOT _JUST_ a
compilation of writings by men. The Holy Spirit was involved, and is
in it.
===>You are saying that because you accept the opinions of others,
mostly Church doctrines.
The whole idea of a "Holy Spirit", or ANY "spirit" for that matter, is
based on the borrowings of sectarian Jews (Pharisees, Essenes, Nazoreans,
etc.)\
from Zoroastrianism. Note that the conservative Sadducees did not believe
any of that stuff, as confirmed by Josephus as well as the book of Acts,
and
even earlier the book of Ecclesiastes.
Where we do agree is that Paul presumed authority he should
not have done. And he was able to impress many with his talents,
(while others said he was 'mad.')
===>Which he obviously WAS. His visions and hallucinations are his very
own testimony to that.
Paul was 'sincere,' can I say, 'to
the max.'
===>Aren't schizophrenics generally "sincere"???
To call Paul, our most important and prolific apostle for Christ
"schizophrenic" suffering from "hallucinations" is an insult. You are again
going into your trashing and flaming mode in your unrelenting effort to
destroy our belief and faith in Christ and His apostles. Christianity is the
religion of those posting to Christian NGs, and trashing and flaming with
derogatory name-calling is NOT intelligent debate, but atheism, which you
try to force down our throats.
If you can't contain yourself, please post to atheist NGs. I will post
you over to them.
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
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| User: "Keenan Clay Wilkie" |
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| Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? |
29 Jul 2004 11:36:52 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> writes:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:41067DE3.8BF5EA01@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Mike Rhodes wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:47:23 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as real as
you
create "him" to be.
You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and fantasies. -- L.
There is truth to that. Unfortunately, Christians force themselves to
pretend that all words therein accepted by the 'authorities' as THE
inspired Word of God are (as if in fact), THE Inspired Word of God.
When a noteworthy part of it is obviously (as even Libertarius can
see) a man's approach (write or wrong).
Christians have NO PROOF that the Bible is all God's Word.
Yet they act as if they do. And they act is if it's the other
guy's fault for misinterpreting God's intention. Admit it, there are
direct conflicts.
But one thing I do know, Libertarius, the Bible is NOT _JUST_ a
compilation of writings by men. The Holy Spirit was involved, and is
in it.
===>You are saying that because you accept the opinions of others,
mostly Church doctrines.
The whole idea of a "Holy Spirit", or ANY "spirit" for that matter, is
based on the borrowings of sectarian Jews (Pharisees, Essenes, Nazoreans,
etc.)\
from Zoroastrianism. Note that the conservative Sadducees did not believe
any of that stuff, as confirmed by Josephus as well as the book of Acts,
and
even earlier the book of Ecclesiastes.
Where we do agree is that Paul presumed authority he should
not have done. And he was able to impress many with his talents,
(while others said he was 'mad.')
===>Which he obviously WAS. His visions and hallucinations are his very
own testimony to that.
Paul was 'sincere,' can I say, 'to
the max.'
===>Aren't schizophrenics generally "sincere"???
To call Paul, our most important and prolific apostle for Christ
"schizophrenic" suffering from "hallucinations" is an insult. You are again
going into your trashing and flaming mode in your unrelenting effort to
destroy our belief and faith in Christ and His apostles. Christianity is the
religion of those posting to Christian NGs, and trashing and flaming with
derogatory name-calling is NOT intelligent debate, but atheism, which you
try to force down our throats.
If you can't contain yourself, please post to atheist NGs. I will post
you over to them.
Pastor Frank the shameless hypocrite strikes again.
--
See the documented lies of Pastor Frank: http://tinyurl.com/6009
http://www.virginiaisforhaters.org/
d a r k s t a r @ i g l o u . c o m | atheist #29
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? |
28 Jul 2004 06:17:33 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:00:15 -0400 in episode
<HTNNc.53085$Ro2.26699@nntp-post.primus.ca> we saw our hero "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>:
I will post
you over to them.
Hoping you can start a flame war so you can re-inflate your sad little ego...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? |
28 Jul 2004 06:39:37 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:00:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote:
To call Paul, our most important and prolific apostle for Christ
"schizophrenic" suffering from "hallucinations" is an insult.
He was still a goat fucker. What's your problem?
You are again
going into your trashing and flaming mode in your unrelenting effort to
destroy our belief and faith in Christ and His apostles.
That's right, Frank. We want to destroy you. We want to flush
christianity down the toilet. And when we do, Frank, the christian
turd will be indistinguishable from all the other turds. Know why?
Because it's all pure *****.
Christianity is the
religion of those posting to Christian NGs, and trashing and flaming with
derogatory name-calling is NOT intelligent debate, but atheism, which you
try to force down our throats.
How can a 'FORMER' atheist say that!? Has your fucking hypocrisy no
limits? You brag about being a 'former' atheist like it was your first
*****. Why don't you tell the truth. You were never an atheist. You're
some ***** riding the pig of conversion.
If you can't contain yourself, please post to atheist NGs. I will post
you over to them.
It's tired, Fuckwit. The 'our newsgroup is pristine' troll is, dare
I say.... embarrassingly transparent. Nobody in your newsgroup stands
up for you. Not a fucking whisper.
You're a hate mongering, negative attention *****.
Pathetic.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? |
28 Jul 2004 09:42:45 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:41067DE3.8BF5EA01@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Mike Rhodes wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:47:23 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as real as
you
create "him" to be.
You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and fantasies. -- L.
There is truth to that. Unfortunately, Christians force themselves to
pretend that all words therein accepted by the 'authorities' as THE
inspired Word of God are (as if in fact), THE Inspired Word of God.
When a noteworthy part of it is obviously (as even Libertarius can
see) a man's approach (write or wrong).
Christians have NO PROOF that the Bible is all God's Word.
Yet they act as if they do. And they act is if it's the other
guy's fault for misinterpreting God's intention. Admit it, there are
direct conflicts.
But one thing I do know, Libertarius, the Bible is NOT _JUST_ a
compilation of writings by men. The Holy Spirit was involved, and is
in it.
===>You are saying that because you accept the opinions of others,
mostly Church doctrines.
The whole idea of a "Holy Spirit", or ANY "spirit" for that matter, is
based on the borrowings of sectarian Jews (Pharisees, Essenes, Nazoreans,
etc.)\
from Zoroastrianism. Note that the conservative Sadducees did not believe
any of that stuff, as confirmed by Josephus as well as the book of Acts,
and
even earlier the book of Ecclesiastes.
Where we do agree is that Paul presumed authority he should
not have done. And he was able to impress many with his talents,
(while others said he was 'mad.')
===>Which he obviously WAS. His visions and hallucinations are his very
own testimony to that.
Paul was 'sincere,' can I say, 'to
the max.'
===>Aren't schizophrenics generally "sincere"???
To call Paul, our most important and prolific apostle for Christ
"schizophrenic" suffering from "hallucinations" is an insult.
===>Why is that an "insult"???
Are you taking it THAT personally???
Are you also hearing voices and having other kinds of hallucinations?
See a psychiatrist, Sheepherder!
You, too, are indeed, sick in the head. -- L.
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