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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Pastor Frank"
Date: 28 Jul 2004 05:07:00 PM
Object: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan?
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4106A1D8.DBE001C7@Nothing_But_The.Truth...

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article <4105980B.8523B46@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article

<Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,

"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:

in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as real

as

you

create "him" to be.

Blessings
Bren


You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.


===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and

fantasies. --

L.


Sorry for your tiny little world. You should get out more perhaps?


===>My world is the ETERNAL COSMOS, the totality of all existence.
What is yours? -- L.

The "Eternal Cosmos" represents good as well as evil.


===>You are stuck with that Zoroastrian cosmology.
"Good" and "evil" are matters of subjective perception, as
already pointed out by the great philosophers, e.g. Lao Tzu and
Heraclitus.
"For a horse, a dog and a human being have different pleasures;
asses prefer straw to gold, since asses find food sweeter than gold."
"Pigs delight in the mire more than in clean water."
"The sea is the purest and the impurest water.
Fish can drink it, and it is good for them;
to men it is undrinkable and destructive."
"[The true, Cosmic] God is day and night, winter and summer,
war and peace, surfeit and hunger; but he takes various shapes,
just as fire, when it is mingled with spices, is named according to
the savor of each." (Heraclitus of Ephesus)

It has no ideals nor demands perfection.


===>To the Cosmos, all things are ephemeral. "Perfect" only for their
momentary existence.
"To [the real, Cosmic] God all things are fair and good and just,
but men hold some things wrong and some right." (Heraclitus of Ephesus).

(Matt 5:48) Our God created the cosmos


===>NONSENSE.
"The universal Cosmic Ordering [is a process which]
no one of gods or men has made;
but it was ever, is now, and ever shall be an ever-living Fire,
with measures of it kindling, and measures going out." (Heraclitus of

Ephesus)


and ideals of perfection,


===>RIDICULOUS!
MEN invented gods and religions, and attributed their varying and
often contradictory "ideals" to their "gods".

and demands we be perfect through and in the image of His
incarnation Jesus Christ. See below


[SNIPPED]
===>You keep on quoting from the "Gospels", mutually contradictory
fictional stories written by "poets", apparently believing that you
are citing divine "wisdom", as do those referred to by Heraclitus:
"For what thought or wisdom have they?
They follow the poets and take the crowd as their teacher".

Oh, well, what could one expect from a lying, fake "pastor"??? --

L.


"Lying, fake pastor"? That's atheist trashing and flaming and belongs in
atheist NGs. I will post this over to them. I sincerely hope you will post
to NGs which reflect your interests, and stop posting atheism and disbelief,
as well as your flames to our Christian NGs. I don't particularly look
forward to having to complain to your news provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@comcast.net
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
.

User: "Mother Of One"

Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? 29 Jul 2004 09:03:21 AM
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4107C8A3.DB15BC1@Nothing_But_The.Truth...

Pastor Frank wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4106A1D8.DBE001C7@Nothing_But_The.Truth...

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article <4105980B.8523B46@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article

<Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,

"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:

in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as

real

as

you

create "him" to be.

Blessings
Bren


You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.


===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and

fantasies. --

L.


Sorry for your tiny little world. You should get out more

perhaps?


===>My world is the ETERNAL COSMOS, the totality of all existence.
What is yours? -- L.

The "Eternal Cosmos" represents good as well as evil.


===>You are stuck with that Zoroastrian cosmology.
"Good" and "evil" are matters of subjective perception, as
already pointed out by the great philosophers, e.g. Lao Tzu and
Heraclitus.
"For a horse, a dog and a human being have different pleasures;
asses prefer straw to gold, since asses find food sweeter than gold."
"Pigs delight in the mire more than in clean water."
"The sea is the purest and the impurest water.
Fish can drink it, and it is good for them;
to men it is undrinkable and destructive."
"[The true, Cosmic] God is day and night, winter and summer,
war and peace, surfeit and hunger; but he takes various shapes,
just as fire, when it is mingled with spices, is named according to
the savor of each." (Heraclitus of Ephesus)

It has no ideals nor demands perfection.


===>To the Cosmos, all things are ephemeral. "Perfect" only for their
momentary existence.
"To [the real, Cosmic] God all things are fair and good and just,
but men hold some things wrong and some right." (Heraclitus of Ephesus).

(Matt 5:48) Our God created the cosmos


===>NONSENSE.
"The universal Cosmic Ordering [is a process which]
no one of gods or men has made;
but it was ever, is now, and ever shall be an ever-living Fire,
with measures of it kindling, and measures going out." (Heraclitus of

Ephesus)


and ideals of perfection,


===>RIDICULOUS!
MEN invented gods and religions, and attributed their varying and
often contradictory "ideals" to their "gods".

and demands we be perfect through and in the image of His
incarnation Jesus Christ. See below


[SNIPPED]
===>You keep on quoting from the "Gospels", mutually contradictory
fictional stories written by "poets", apparently believing that you
are citing divine "wisdom", as do those referred to by Heraclitus:
"For what thought or wisdom have they?
They follow the poets and take the crowd as their teacher".

Oh, well, what could one expect from a lying, fake

"pastor"??? --

L.


"Lying, fake pastor"? That's atheist trashing and flaming and belongs

in

atheist NGs. I will post this over to them. I sincerely hope you will post
to NGs which reflect your interests, and stop posting atheism and

disbelief,

as well as your flames to our Christian NGs. I don't particularly look
forward to having to complain to your news provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@comcast.net

What exactly will the nice people at X-Complaints do to someone who
crossposts. Will the offending crossposter get a fine? Is this a
punishable crime? Is it a felony or a misdeamer? Isn't stopping people
from crossposting trampling peoples 1st amendment rights (Americans anyway)?
.

User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? 29 Jul 2004 04:31:40 PM
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:07:00 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:

"Lying, fake pastor"? That's atheist trashing and flaming and belongs in
atheist NGs.

Just flaming, Frank.

I don't particularly look
forward to having to complain to your news provider:

Yet it is with some considerable delight, that I look forward to your
complaint to my ISP.
Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
.

User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Are we all God's children, or are some created by Satan? 29 Jul 2004 11:44:51 PM
Pastor Frank wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4107C8A3.DB15BC1@Nothing_But_The.Truth...

Pastor Frank wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4106A1D8.DBE001C7@Nothing_But_The.Truth...

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article <4105980B.8523B46@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:

IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

In article

<Pine.GSO.4.58.0407260953490.23271@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>,

"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:

in my opinion we are all Gods children. Satan is only as real

as

you

create "him" to be.

Blessings
Bren


You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.


===>You "err" out of ignorance of reality.
The "scriptures" are just a compilation of writings by MEN,
expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations and

fantasies. --

L.


Sorry for your tiny little world. You should get out more perhaps?


===>My world is the ETERNAL COSMOS, the totality of all existence.
What is yours? -- L.

The "Eternal Cosmos" represents good as well as evil.


===>You are stuck with that Zoroastrian cosmology.
"Good" and "evil" are matters of subjective perception, as
already pointed out by the great philosophers, e.g. Lao Tzu and
Heraclitus.
"For a horse, a dog and a human being have different pleasures;
asses prefer straw to gold, since asses find food sweeter than gold."
"Pigs delight in the mire more than in clean water."
"The sea is the purest and the impurest water.
Fish can drink it, and it is good for them;
to men it is undrinkable and destructive."
"[The true, Cosmic] God is day and night, winter and summer,
war and peace, surfeit and hunger; but he takes various shapes,
just as fire, when it is mingled with spices, is named according to
the savor of each." (Heraclitus of Ephesus)

It has no ideals nor demands perfection.


===>To the Cosmos, all things are ephemeral. "Perfect" only for their
momentary existence.
"To [the real, Cosmic] God all things are fair and good and just,
but men hold some things wrong and some right." (Heraclitus of Ephesus).

(Matt 5:48) Our God created the cosmos


===>NONSENSE.
"The universal Cosmic Ordering [is a process which]
no one of gods or men has made;
but it was ever, is now, and ever shall be an ever-living Fire,
with measures of it kindling, and measures going out." (Heraclitus of

Ephesus)


and ideals of perfection,


===>RIDICULOUS!
MEN invented gods and religions, and attributed their varying and
often contradictory "ideals" to their "gods".

and demands we be perfect through and in the image of His
incarnation Jesus Christ. See below


[SNIPPED]
===>You keep on quoting from the "Gospels", mutually contradictory
fictional stories written by "poets", apparently believing that you
are citing divine "wisdom", as do those referred to by Heraclitus:
"For what thought or wisdom have they?
They follow the poets and take the crowd as their teacher".

Oh, well, what could one expect from a lying, fake "pastor"??? --

L.


"Lying, fake pastor"? That's atheist trashing and flaming

===>You label ALL statements of truth and fact unmasking you
"atheist". Most readers know you as a liar, and certainly you are a
FAKE "Pastor", without any credentials. Nothing new in that. -- L.
.


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