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"Anonyma" |
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23 Dec 2006 01:33:05 PM |
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Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
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"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote:
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You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in government :
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| User: "Its the Principle!" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
25 Dec 2006 09:19:01 AM |
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Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
References: <fc26cca14ddbe4498d7d67af08a54527@pseudo.borked.net>
<1166890186.797838.9450@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
<e0d4aade54770070b6c6379710d8b45f@pseudo.borked.net>
<dZejh.6027$X72.1668@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
For the real story behind the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, see :
http://www.aclj.org
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+
OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-chri
st%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22+-%22athe
ist.tamu%22+-%22liberalavenger%22+-%22atheism.about%22&adult_done
=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch&adult_cancel=http%3A%2F%2
Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fweb%2Fadvanced&_adv_prop=web&ei=UTF-8&vst=0&v
f=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100
"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www
You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in
government :
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_
oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=%22torresD%22+%3Ctor
resd30@hotmail.com%3E&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_
miny=1981&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Perhaps you're religious, but obviously not a Chjristian.
--
Brandy Alexandre
--Everything tastes better with cat hair in it. =^.^=
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
23 Dec 2006 02:00:06 PM |
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No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
"Anonyma" <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote in message
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References: <fc26cca14ddbe4498d7d67af08a54527@pseudo.borked.net>
<1166890186.797838.9450@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
<e0d4aade54770070b6c6379710d8b45f@pseudo.borked.net>
<dZejh.6027$X72.1668@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
For the real story behind the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, see :
http://www.aclj.org
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-christ%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22+-%22atheist.tamu%22+-%22liberalavenger%22+-%22atheism.about%22&adult_done=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch&adult_cancel=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fweb%2Fadvanced&_adv_prop=web&ei=UTF-8&vst=0&vf=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100
"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www
You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in government :
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=%22torresD%22+%3Ctorresd30@hotmail.com%3E&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
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| User: "chef_boyhowdy!" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:12:27 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:00:06 -0500, Bill M wrote:
No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
thats nice.
in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
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| User: "AKA" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:29:14 AM |
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"chef_boyhowdy!" <attila_the_tongue@nowaynohow.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:00:06 -0500, Bill M wrote:
No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
thats nice.
in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
Atheism is a belief system like being bald is a hair color.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:55:20 AM |
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"AKA" <fallon@das.com> wrote in message
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in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
Atheism is a belief system like being bald is a hair color.
I am going to have to remember that!
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| User: "Ricky Jimenez" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 11:01:23 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:12:27 -0500, chef_boyhowdy!
<attila_the_tongue@nowaynohow.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:00:06 -0500, Bill M wrote:
No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
thats nice.
in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 01:45:12 PM |
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On 27-Dec-2006, Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote:
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
YES!!! Somebody gets it!
As an Atheist that is my only problem. I don't give a rat's butt what
anyone believes just keep it amongst their own and leave the rest of us
alone.
I am not out to stop religious worship but I am out to stop having someone
else's religious beliefs from being forced on an entire country that was
founded on freedom of religion and NOT for Christ, as some would have
us/make us believe.
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| User: "grasshopper" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 06:51:34 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:45:12 GMT, wrote:
On 27-Dec-2006, Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote:
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
YES!!! Somebody gets it!
As an Atheist that is my only problem. I don't give a rat's butt what
anyone believes just keep it amongst their own and leave the rest of us
alone.
I am not out to stop religious worship but I am out to stop having someone
else's religious beliefs from being forced on an entire country that was
founded on freedom of religion and NOT for Christ, as some would have
us/make us believe.
I can understand that and agree. But, there is too much money to be
made in the name of religion so it will never go away or go private.
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| User: "AKA" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 08:00:38 PM |
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"grasshopper" <er21@qwest.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:45:12 GMT, wrote:
On 27-Dec-2006, Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote:
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
YES!!! Somebody gets it!
As an Atheist that is my only problem. I don't give a rat's butt what
anyone believes just keep it amongst their own and leave the rest of us
alone.
I am not out to stop religious worship but I am out to stop having someone
else's religious beliefs from being forced on an entire country that was
founded on freedom of religion and NOT for Christ, as some would have
us/make us believe.
I can understand that and agree. But, there is too much money to be
made in the name of religion so it will never go away or go private.
Absolutely correct. The religious are the con-mans dream with vast bodies
of people who are taught to believe and not question.
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| User: "grasshopper" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
28 Dec 2006 06:59:17 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:00:38 GMT, "AKA" <fallon@das.com> wrote:
"grasshopper" <er21@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:l756p25k10u6immlej4dl88ga8bjmgoh1l@4ax.com...
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:45:12 GMT, wrote:
On 27-Dec-2006, Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote:
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
YES!!! Somebody gets it!
As an Atheist that is my only problem. I don't give a rat's butt what
anyone believes just keep it amongst their own and leave the rest of us
alone.
I am not out to stop religious worship but I am out to stop having someone
else's religious beliefs from being forced on an entire country that was
founded on freedom of religion and NOT for Christ, as some would have
us/make us believe.
I can understand that and agree. But, there is too much money to be
made in the name of religion so it will never go away or go private.
Absolutely correct. The religious are the con-mans dream with vast bodies
of people who are taught to believe and not question.
See Ted Haggard.
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| User: "David Schwartz" |
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27 Dec 2006 01:59:20 PM |
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Ricky Jimenez wrote:
I agree that toleration should extend to atheists as well as
believers. The most important idea, that should be pushed throughout
the world, is that what you believe about supernatural beings and what
they want is your own business and it should not be imposed on others.
If all religion was private, we would have all the benefits and few of
the problems.
I honestly don't see why toleration of obvious falsehood is a virtue.
I think the reason you seem reasonable is you rely on the word
"imposed" without clarifying what you mean by imposing. If you mean you
shouldn't hit people over the head with bats, well you shouldn't do
that for any (non-defensive) reason. That has nothing to do with
supernatural beings or toleration but is simply non-violence.
If other people's ideas are false and tend to incite to violence, it's
a vice to tolerate them.
DS
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:59:57 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:12:27 -0500, chef_boyhowdy! wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:00:06 -0500, Bill M wrote:
No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
thats nice.
in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
Whatever the hell "aetheism" is, atheism is a lack of belief in any gods.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned
and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic
is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever
before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions
may prove groundless." -Abraham Lincoln
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:37:47 PM |
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Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America’s least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by a Minnesota University sociology researchers.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth
interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans
rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other
groups as “sharing their vision of American society.” Americans are
also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
“It tells us about how Americans view religion,” said Penny Edgell, an
associate sociology professor and the study’s lead researcher. “Many
Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to
being a good American and a good person.”
The study will appear in the April issue of the “American Sociological
Review.” Professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Douglas
Hartmann are study co-authors. It is the first in a series of national
studies conducted by the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project
that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the United
States.
Edgell said Americans traditionally have been a religious people and
associate faith with being a good citizen. The survey results indicate
that this belief hasn’t changed, Edgell said.
Those surveyed tended to view people who don’t believe in a god as the
“ultimate self-interested actor who doesn’t care about anyone but
themselves,” Edgell said.
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| User: "AKA" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism is religious insanity |
27 Dec 2006 10:51:17 PM |
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<Ahab@Mactan.gov> wrote in message
news:uoi6p25lniv7r1nfa47ls7bovnv0k1tp97@4ax.com...
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by a Minnesota University sociology researchers.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth
interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans
rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other
groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are
also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
"It tells us about how Americans view religion," said Penny Edgell, an
associate sociology professor and the study's lead researcher. "Many
Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to
being a good American and a good person."
The study will appear in the April issue of the "American Sociological
Review." Professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Douglas
Hartmann are study co-authors. It is the first in a series of national
studies conducted by the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project
that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the United
States.
Edgell said Americans traditionally have been a religious people and
associate faith with being a good citizen. The survey results indicate
that this belief hasn't changed, Edgell said.
Those surveyed tended to view people who don't believe in a god as the
"ultimate self-interested actor who doesn't care about anyone but
themselves," Edgell said.
Only demonstrates the "dumbing down of america" is successful.
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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27 Dec 2006 10:17:55 AM |
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chef_boyhowdy! wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:00:06 -0500, Bill M wrote:
No, atheism is dealing with the 'real' world based on facts and objective
verifiable evidence rather than false beliefs based on myths, fables and
unsupported 'faith'.
thats nice.
in reality, aetheism is simply ANOTHER set of beliefs. Aetheists can no
more "prove" their own beliefs than those they ridicule.
At least they can write "Atheists" correctly. Besides, they don't have to "prove" their lack of belief.
On that point the religionists, aka. "the American Taliban", are and remain, somewhat more poorly equipped...
--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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