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"Frank Arthur" |
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23 Jul 2006 10:10:16 AM |
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Re: Atheism Why? |
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
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WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read the
newspapers?
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
20 Aug 2006 10:50:20 AM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
Re: Atheism Why?
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read the
newspapers?
Hello,
Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
compare it to another one.
Jesus believed he also represented the true religion from God. Here is
one of Jesus' commands. What do you think would happen to all of the
world's wars on this planet, IF all people obeyed just this one single
command from Jesus? Mt 5:44,
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Sincerely, James
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| User: "Eudaemonic Plague" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
21 Aug 2006 04:20:09 PM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
: Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But
let's
: compare it to another one.
Let's not.
: Jesus believed he also represented the true religion from God.
_Who_ believed? There is no evidence that this Jesus is anything more
than a fictional character. By the way, what religion do you think he
would have believed in, had he ever existed?
: Here is
: one of Jesus' commands. What do you think would happen to all of the
: world's wars on this planet, IF all people obeyed just this one
single
: command from Jesus? Mt 5:44,
:
: "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who
persecute
: you," (NASB)
Isn't this supposed to have been said on that mountain I got drunk on
15+ years ago? The city of Haifa is there? Plenty of evidence of
xian love going on in that neighbor lately......sometimes I wonder if
xians didn't create the state of Israel just to keep the mideast
stirred up.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
21 Aug 2006 02:08:21 PM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
Re: Atheism Why?
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man's
hands-
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the
newspapers?
Hello,
Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
compare it to another one.
Let's not.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
21 Aug 2006 04:47:45 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:q51he29kh351v8unpji96tavstf0ho98ef@4ax.com...
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
Re: Atheism Why?
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in
man's hands-
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the
newspapers?
Hello,
Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
compare it to another one.
Let's not.
Scientology! (Runs)
--
His disciples said, "When will you become revealed
to us and when shall we see you?"
Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed
and take up your garments and place them under your
feet like little children and tread on them, then will you
see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"
- Gospel of Thomas.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Lizzardwoman" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
21 Aug 2006 02:02:14 PM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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| >"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
| >Re: Atheism Why?
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| >"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
| >news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
| >> WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
| >> headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
| >> has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
| >> atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
| >>
| >> Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
| >> future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in
man's
| >> hands-
| >We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
| >Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the
| >newspapers?
| >
|
| Hello,
|
| Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
| compare it to another one.
|
| Jesus believed he also represented the true religion from God. Here is
| one of Jesus' commands. What do you think would happen to all of the
| world's wars on this planet, IF all people obeyed just this one single
| command from Jesus? Mt 5:44,
|
| "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
| you," (NASB)
But if you maintain that another religion is wrong, why can't they maintain
that your religion is wrong. I mean it's not like there is any proof for
either religion.
sharon
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
22 Aug 2006 12:45:02 AM |
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Lizzardwoman wrote:
"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:q51he29kh351v8unpji96tavstf0ho98ef@4ax.com...
| >"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
| >Re: Atheism Why?
|
| >
| >"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
| >news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
| >> WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
| >> headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
| >> has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
| >> atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
| >>
| >> Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
| >> future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in
man's
| >> hands-
| >We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
| >Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the
| >newspapers?
| >
|
| Hello,
|
| Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
| compare it to another one.
|
| Jesus believed he also represented the true religion from God. Here is
| one of Jesus' commands. What do you think would happen to all of the
| world's wars on this planet, IF all people obeyed just this one single
| command from Jesus? Mt 5:44,
|
| "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
| you," (NASB)
But if you maintain that another religion is wrong, why can't they maintain
that your religion is wrong. I mean it's not like there is any proof for
either religion.
sharo
[Preface to 'The Incomplete God List']]
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
[Stephen Roberts]
Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Abalim[Judaic]
Abba Amona[Judaic] Abraxis[Judaic]
Adam Beliyya'al'[Judaic] Adam Kadmon[Judaic]
Adonai[Judaic] Adonaiel[Judaic]
Akatriel-Yah[Judaic] Alitha[Judaic]
Alukah(Arpad Yiddish: Estrie)[Judaic] Anafiel[Judaic]
Angels[Judaic] Archons[Judaic] Asherah(Asherah)[Judaic]
Asmodeus(Asmodaios)[Judaic]
Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Baal[Judaic]
Baal-Karmelos[Judaic]
Bat Kol[Judaic] Beelzebub(Beelzebul Baalzebub)[Judaic]
Belial(Beliar)[Judaic]iBethel[ Syrian]
Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Cthulhu Chashmal[Judaic]
Chayyot[Judaic Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Dagon[Judaic]
Demiurge(Demiourgos Demogorgon)[Judaic]
Demons[Judaic] Devekut[Judaic] Dever[Judaic] Dumiel[Judaic]
Dybbuk[Judaic] Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal,
El(El 'Elyon)[Judaic] Elim[Judaic]
Elohim[Judaic] Elom[Judaic Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe,
Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Golem[Judaic] Ha-Shem[Judaic Hermes, Hestia,
Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, ] Ibbur Elim[Judaic]
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Kefitzat ha-Derekh[Judaic]
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Lilith[Judaic]
Lotan[Judaic] Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan
Makon[Judaic]
Mammon[Judaic] Mastema[Judaic]
Mazikeen[Judaic] Mazzikin[Judaic]
Memra[Judaic/Aramaic] Metatron[Judaic]
Moloch[Judaic, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys,
Nechushtan[Judaic]Nibhaz[Judaic]
Neptune, Nerthus. Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Obizoth[Judaic]
Ofanim(Ophanim Galgallim)[Judaic]
Oniel Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Padkaras[Judaic]
Piznai[Judaic]
Potah[Judaic]
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Ras Tafari
Ragshiel[Judaic]
Rahav[Judaic]
Reshef[Judaic](Plague)
Saturn, Set, Satan[Judaic](
Shabbat Hamalka[Judaic]
Shekhina[Judaic](Shekina Shechina)Judaism
Sophia[Judaic](Hakhma Chochma)
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw,
Tanin'iver[Judaic](Blinddragon)
Tannin[Judaic]
Tarshishim[Judaic]
Terafim(Teraphim)[Judaic]
Tzadikiel[Judaic]
Tzakadhazy[Judaic]
Tzelanit[Judaic]
Tzeruf[Judaic]
Tzohar[Judaic]
Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA.
[Judaic]
Watcher[Judaic]Yhwh[yahweh][Judaic]
Yeddeoni[Judaic]
Yekum[Judaic]Yohani bat Retiviv[Judaic]
Zadkiel[Judaic]I
Zar[Judaic
African gods:
[Note under 'African Gods' the number devoted to 'Supremacy']
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Table of Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
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James wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
Re: Atheism Why?
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man's
hands-
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read the
newspapers?
Hello,
Yes the Muslim religion claims to be the religion from God. But let's
compare it to another one.
Jesus believed he also represented the true religion from God. Here is
one of Jesus' commands. What do you think would happen to all of the
world's wars on this planet, IF all people obeyed just this one single
command from Jesus? Mt 5:44,
There is nothing in Christianity that is not borrowed from older (often
pagan) religions.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DP5/christian.htm
http://www.medmalexperts.com/POCM/getting_started_pocm.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/source.html
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Yes, including that.
Do not return evil to your adversary; Requite with kindness the one who
does evil to you, Maintain justice for your enemy, Be friendly to your
enemy.
- Akkadian Councils of Wisdom
http://history-world.org/akkadians.htm
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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23 Jul 2006 11:08:33 AM |
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Frank Arthur wrote:
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read the
newspapers?
I also read history, During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church had a
stranglehold on its subjects. “The hierarchy seemed ill equipped to deal
with the spiritual needs of the people,” notes The Encyclopedia
Americana. “The higher clergy, notably the bishops, were recruited from
the nobility and saw their office mainly as a source of prestige and power.”
Some, such as John Calvin and Martin Luther, tried to reform the church.
Their methods, however, were not always Christlike; intolerance and
bloodshed marked the Reformation. (Compare Matthew 26:52.) So vicious
were some attacks that three centuries later Thomas Jefferson, the third
president of the United States, wrote: “It would be more pardonable to
believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious
attributes of Calvin.”
Clearly, the Reformation did not restore pure worship. Yet, it reduced
the power of the Catholic Church. No longer did the Vatican hold a
monopoly on religious faith. Many joined newly formed Protestant sects.
Others, disillusioned by religion, made the human mind their object of
worship. A liberal attitude ensued, allowing for diverse opinions about God.
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
23 Jul 2006 11:48:27 AM |
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"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:5aNwg.5926$yN3.176@trnddc04...
Frank Arthur wrote:
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’
s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims
are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the
newspapers?
I also read history, During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church had a
stranglehold on its subjects. “The hierarchy seemed ill equipped to deal
with the spiritual needs of the people,” notes The Encyclopedia
Americana. “The higher clergy, notably the bishops, were recruited from
the nobility and saw their office mainly as a source of prestige and
power.”
Some, such as John Calvin and Martin Luther, tried to reform the church.
Their methods, however, were not always Christlike; intolerance and
bloodshed marked the Reformation. (Compare Matthew 26:52.) So vicious
were some attacks that three centuries later Thomas Jefferson, the third
president of the United States, wrote: “It would be more pardonable to
believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious
attributes of Calvin.”
Clearly, the Reformation did not restore pure worship. Yet, it reduced
the power of the Catholic Church. No longer did the Vatican hold a
monopoly on religious faith. Many joined newly formed Protestant sects.
Others, disillusioned by religion, made the human mind their object of
worship. A liberal attitude ensued, allowing for diverse opinions about
God.
what's your point?
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism Why? |
23 Jul 2006 01:33:39 PM |
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"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:5aNwg.5926$yN3.176@trnddc04...
Frank Arthur wrote:
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
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WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read
the newspapers?
I also read history, During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church had a
stranglehold on its subjects. “The hierarchy seemed ill equipped to deal
with the spiritual needs of the people,” notes The Encyclopedia Americana.
“The higher clergy, notably the bishops, were recruited from the nobility
and saw their office mainly as a source of prestige and power.”
Some, such as John Calvin and Martin Luther, tried to reform the church.
Their methods, however, were not always Christlike; intolerance and
bloodshed marked the Reformation. (Compare Matthew 26:52.) So vicious were
some attacks that three centuries later Thomas Jefferson, the third
president of the United States, wrote: “It would be more pardonable to
believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious
attributes of Calvin.”
Clearly, the Reformation did not restore pure worship. Yet, it reduced the
power of the Catholic Church. No longer did the Vatican hold a monopoly on
religious faith. Many joined newly formed Protestant sects. Others,
disillusioned by religion, made the human mind their object of worship. A
liberal attitude ensued, allowing for diverse opinions about God.
You're obviously well read and an intelligent fellow. Why then, do you
persist in this baseless assumption of yours that a 'God' exists? Where in
the hell do you 'see' him? What do you see that we atheists don't? With your
intellect, you can surely see the ignorance involved in maintaining
something exists which no man in history has been able to prove, exists.
Don't you think that there would be *something* in our universe that a
theist could point to and say, '*that's* God!'? How utterly ignorant, yes
ignorant, your position is.
Greywolf
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23 Jul 2006 03:31:31 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:08:33 GMT, Blak <skin@color.org> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:RfLwg.2174$fL3.1956@trnddc07...
WE LIVE on a crisis-filled planet; a momentary glance at newspaper
headlines confirms that fact each day. The desperate state of our world
has caused many to question the existence of God. Some, claiming to be
atheist, even deny his existence. Is that true of you?
Belief or disbelief in God can profoundly affect your outlook on the
future. Without God, the survival of the human race is entirely in man’s
hands—
We all know that over a billion strong believers in God that Muslims are.
Are you too a believer in peace brought about by God- or don't you read the
newspapers?
I also read history, During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church had a
stranglehold on its subjects. “The hierarchy seemed ill equipped to deal
with the spiritual needs of the people,” notes The Encyclopedia
Americana. “The higher clergy, notably the bishops, were recruited from
the nobility and saw their office mainly as a source of prestige and power.”
Some, such as John Calvin and Martin Luther, tried to reform the church.
Their methods, however, were not always Christlike; intolerance and
bloodshed marked the Reformation.
Yes, but how was it not Christlike?
(Compare Matthew 26:52.) So vicious
were some attacks that three centuries later Thomas Jefferson, the third
president of the United States, wrote: “It would be more pardonable to
believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious
attributes of Calvin.”
Clearly, the Reformation did not restore pure worship.
Clearly the above makes an unwarranted assumption.
Yet, it reduced
the power of the Catholic Church. No longer did the Vatican hold a
monopoly on religious faith. Many joined newly formed Protestant sects.
Others, disillusioned by religion, made the human mind their object of
worship. A liberal attitude ensued, allowing for diverse opinions about God.
The Vatican never held a monopoly on religious faith, nor did
Christianity in general. The overwhelming majority of people were
never Christian. Your provincialism is showing.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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