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User: "mclark"
Date: 31 Mar 2004 07:58:12 PM
Object: Re: Atheists,Just Curious
Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:

"mclark" <idontreply@toemail.com> wrote in message
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Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
[sinp]

atheist,

and

that just doesn't fit reality. If I remember correctly,

about

40%

of

the US population accepts evolution without any divine

interference.

Yet only about 10% of the US population is atheist. How,

then,

can

evolution be construed as a primarily atheist position? The

following

link provides a link to organizations, including religious
organizations, that have publicly stated their support for

evolution.

See Part Three: Religious Organizations

http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/voices/


Clarkie: You did not address what percentage of atheists are

also

evolutionists.

I suspect that the percentage is very high.


Tom: Of course it is, what would you expect? The issue is that

there

are

many Christians who also know that evolution has occurred.

????
????


Clarkie: Yes, they "know" that evolution has occurred because they

are

eyewitnesses to complete evolution processes which take millions

of

years, right?


Tom: Red herring. The question was dealing with how many Christians

believed

that evolution had occurred. Your disingenuous question is answered

by

stating that no, you ignorant *****, they observed the scientific

evidence

for

evolution.


Clarkie: Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is

conjecture.

Tom: You do? Well glory be. Do you ever read the newspaper or watch the

news

on TV or read a magazine? You really like that word conjecture, don't

you?

It rather implies that it is a wild ***** guess and since your agenda is

to

attempt to marginalize evolution and atheists you use it every chance

you

get, dontcha' big boy? I am afraid that conjecture isn't an appropriate

word

in this instance.

Five Gallup polls between 1982 and 1999 show that in various polls the
percentage of people who hold the belief that man has developed over

???????????
???????????

millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this
process, including man's creation ranges from 35 to 40 percent.
http://www.nwcreation.net/atheism.html


Clarkie: What makes you think that Gallop polls are somehow able to filter

out

conjectural responses? Indeed, you changed your assertion from
christians *knowing* (previous post) to christians *holding the belief*.


Tom: From their past record.

Most mainline protestant churches have no problem with evolution(

excluding

the Southern Baptists of course). The Pope says that the evidence is

strong

for evolution. Of course I guess that an all knowing ***** like yourself

will

just say that these millions of people are not "true" Christians.


Clarkie: You're changing the scope of the subject!


Tom: *****! Here is the topic of immediate discussion as instigated by
you:

Clarkie:Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is
conjecture.




Clarkie: I've been discussing
evolution with respect to the origin of the mind of modern man, not
biological evolution in general. Also, I can accept some degree of
evolution as a possibility. But I don't accept the totality of
evolution as many atheists/evolutionists do.


Tom: See you above post to learn what you are supposed to discuss in this
part of the thread! Hey Clarkie, I really don't give a flying flip whet you
discuss but when you introduce a topic then deny it, I think that is pretty
chicken-*****, don't you?

I noted that you (or someone) pressed a tangent issue.
M. Clark
.

User: "Tom"

Title: Re: Atheists,Just Curious 01 Apr 2004 08:09:37 AM
"mclark" <idontreply@toemail.com> wrote in message
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Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:

"mclark" <idontreply@toemail.com> wrote in message
news:1gbhgoy.1oz2t441hc401pN%idontreply@toemail.com...

Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
[sinp]

atheist,

and

that just doesn't fit reality. If I remember correctly,

about

40%

of

the US population accepts evolution without any divine

interference.

Yet only about 10% of the US population is atheist.

How,

then,

can

evolution be construed as a primarily atheist position?

The

following

link provides a link to organizations, including

religious

organizations, that have publicly stated their support

for

evolution.

See Part Three: Religious Organizations

http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/voices/


Clarkie: You did not address what percentage of atheists

are

also

evolutionists.

I suspect that the percentage is very high.


Tom: Of course it is, what would you expect? The issue is

that

there

are

many Christians who also know that evolution has occurred.

????
????


Clarkie: Yes, they "know" that evolution has occurred because

they

are

eyewitnesses to complete evolution processes which take

millions

of

years, right?


Tom: Red herring. The question was dealing with how many

Christians

believed

that evolution had occurred. Your disingenuous question is

answered

by

stating that no, you ignorant *****, they observed the scientific

evidence

for

evolution.


Clarkie: Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is

conjecture.

Tom: You do? Well glory be. Do you ever read the newspaper or watch

the

news

on TV or read a magazine? You really like that word conjecture,

don't

you?

It rather implies that it is a wild ***** guess and since your agenda

is

to

attempt to marginalize evolution and atheists you use it every

chance

you

get, dontcha' big boy? I am afraid that conjecture isn't an

appropriate

word

in this instance.

Five Gallup polls between 1982 and 1999 show that in various polls

the

percentage of people who hold the belief that man has developed over

???????????
???????????

millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided

this

process, including man's creation ranges from 35 to 40 percent.
http://www.nwcreation.net/atheism.html


Clarkie: What makes you think that Gallop polls are somehow able to

filter

out

conjectural responses? Indeed, you changed your assertion from
christians *knowing* (previous post) to christians *holding the

belief*.


Tom: From their past record.

Most mainline protestant churches have no problem with evolution(

excluding

the Southern Baptists of course). The Pope says that the evidence is

strong

for evolution. Of course I guess that an all knowing ***** like

yourself

will

just say that these millions of people are not "true" Christians.


Clarkie: You're changing the scope of the subject!


Tom: *****! Here is the topic of immediate discussion as instigated

by

you:

Clarkie:Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is
conjecture.




Clarkie: I've been discussing
evolution with respect to the origin of the mind of modern man, not
biological evolution in general. Also, I can accept some degree of
evolution as a possibility. But I don't accept the totality of
evolution as many atheists/evolutionists do.


Tom: See you above post to learn what you are supposed to discuss in

this

part of the thread! Hey Clarkie, I really don't give a flying flip whet

you

discuss but when you introduce a topic then deny it, I think that is

pretty

chicken-*****, don't you?


I noted that you (or someone) pressed a tangent issue.

Tom: Gee whiz, where did you learn to read????? You challenged a statement
that I made, I replied and then you went to this "I'm not discussing that"
mode. Why don't you try being honest for a change.
.

User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Atheists,Just Curious 31 Mar 2004 09:26:13 PM
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:58:12 +0000 (UTC),

(mclark) wrote:

Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:

"mclark" <

> wrote in message
news:1gbhgoy.1oz2t441hc401pN%
...

Tom <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
[sinp]

atheist,

and

that just doesn't fit reality. If I remember correctly,

about

40%

of

the US population accepts evolution without any divine

interference.

Yet only about 10% of the US population is atheist. How,

then,

can

evolution be construed as a primarily atheist position? The

following

link provides a link to organizations, including religious
organizations, that have publicly stated their support for

evolution.

See Part Three: Religious Organizations

http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/voices/


Clarkie: You did not address what percentage of atheists are

also

evolutionists.

I suspect that the percentage is very high.


Tom: Of course it is, what would you expect? The issue is that

there

are

many Christians who also know that evolution has occurred.

????
????


Clarkie: Yes, they "know" that evolution has occurred because they

are

eyewitnesses to complete evolution processes which take millions

of

years, right?


Tom: Red herring. The question was dealing with how many Christians

believed

that evolution had occurred. Your disingenuous question is answered

by

stating that no, you ignorant *****, they observed the scientific

evidence

for

evolution.


Clarkie: Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is

conjecture.

Tom: You do? Well glory be. Do you ever read the newspaper or watch the

news

on TV or read a magazine? You really like that word conjecture, don't

you?

It rather implies that it is a wild ***** guess and since your agenda is

to

attempt to marginalize evolution and atheists you use it every chance

you

get, dontcha' big boy? I am afraid that conjecture isn't an appropriate

word

in this instance.

Five Gallup polls between 1982 and 1999 show that in various polls the
percentage of people who hold the belief that man has developed over

???????????
???????????

millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this
process, including man's creation ranges from 35 to 40 percent.
http://www.nwcreation.net/atheism.html


Clarkie: What makes you think that Gallop polls are somehow able to filter

out

conjectural responses? Indeed, you changed your assertion from
christians *knowing* (previous post) to christians *holding the belief*.


Tom: From their past record.

Most mainline protestant churches have no problem with evolution(

excluding

the Southern Baptists of course). The Pope says that the evidence is

strong

for evolution. Of course I guess that an all knowing ***** like yourself

will

just say that these millions of people are not "true" Christians.


Clarkie: You're changing the scope of the subject!


Tom: *****! Here is the topic of immediate discussion as instigated by
you:

Clarkie:Since you pressed the issue, I believe that your assertion

that

there are many Christians who know that evolution his occurred is
conjecture.




Clarkie: I've been discussing
evolution with respect to the origin of the mind of modern man, not
biological evolution in general. Also, I can accept some degree of
evolution as a possibility. But I don't accept the totality of
evolution as many atheists/evolutionists do.


Tom: See you above post to learn what you are supposed to discuss in this
part of the thread! Hey Clarkie, I really don't give a flying flip whet you
discuss but when you introduce a topic then deny it, I think that is pretty
chicken-*****, don't you?


I noted that you (or someone) pressed a tangent issue.

M. Clark

Thank you for your time.
.


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