"James Martinez" <pinto_a1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thomas J Wheat (thomaswheat@hotmail.com)
Without the great society you would have been a guest worker, or still
picking grapes. The republicans have fought since the inception of the
great society to bankrupt the program. Republicans do endorse
inequality and they are the party of the wealthy white elite.
My family was lower middle class (or maybe upper lower class) but we
did not do seasonal agricultural work. Although my brother and I did
harvest onions for several seasons -- as a way to make some money.
(which was before your party told us that doing such work was demeaning
and we should instead allow the government to support us).
This is, of course, untrue, as our party said the way you were being treated
(wages, or lack thereof; health benefits; or lack thereof....) was demeaning
& never said that the government should jsut support you.
I would like nothing better if the Republicans were successful in
bankrupting those social programs which made Hispanic communities
dependent upon government largess.
Interesting how you OT1H insist the government isn't responsible for
individuals when you think the Democrtas say it is, but OTOH say that the
government is responsible for individuals when you think the Democrats are
at fault for something.
And I personally would not find
Republican inequality any worse than the privileged groups of the
Democratic Party.
Except that the so-called privileged groups" of the Democratic Party are,
even if you refuse to believe that they are working to help as many as they
can, *not* working *solely* to protect their privilege, which is exactly
what the Republicans are doing.
Or are you saying it is possible to advocate privilege
based on group membership, but that such does not support inequality?
If you are saying that in order to be a Democrat, rich people have to stop
being rich, then you are a Communist. I knew Republicans were fascistic, but
I thought Republicans didn't like Communists.
Susan
Gabrielle Rapagnetta (n0spam.cut-out@gmx.net)
Rather than a 'scientific' discourse on the political right, I would
prefer to hear someone from Berkeley to admit that the Great Society
was a massive and complete failure. And why minorities would today
be much better off if the left had instead decided to leave us
alone.
Why was it a failure? You seem to be fairly decent writer, if not a
little bitter.
Bitter? Possibly because I am a member of a community which was actually
making progress until federal programs, which were suppose to "save" us,
turned us into wards of the state. And the response to these failed
programs was to enact new ones.
If you are interested in doing some reading, investigate the following.
Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980
by Charles Murray
The accidental President
by Robert Sherrill
BTR1701 (BTR1702@austin.rr.com)
And there it is.
The assumption that without a government handout or some other
governmental "help", he'd be a blithering, illiterate idiot.
In case you are curious, I completed my formal education before
political correctness and the educational shift which replaced education
with indoctrination. And four years in the Army paid the majority of
my educational related expenses. Courtesy of the GI Bill.
Maybe the guy's a decent writer because he's an intelligent person,
not because the "benevolent hand of the government" touched his life.
My parents were quite possibly in the last Hispanic middle-lower class
generation which demanded that their children get themselves an education.
This was from a couple with very little formal education of any kind, but
who somehow recognized that education, determination, and desire would get
us further along in life than all the government programs combined.
Great Society and all other attempts at social engineering told my
community that all of our success would now be due to Democrats and some
government program, and all our failures were due to Republicans, racists,
and the refusal of our proud rich heritage to accept a subservient role in
white society. No more need for any of us to have a decent education,
desire, drive, or a will to succeed. The benevolence of government
programs would now take care of that for us. "And for you Hispanic teenage
Moms, remember, the more kids you have the more money you will receive."
Being unmarried and pregnant was suddenly a cultural trait. And not an
indication of any personal irresponsibility.
I continue to wait for the political left to apologize for the extensive
damage they did to my community. And I would also like to hear some
intelligent discussion on how to correct this situation -- without the
usual
reply of adding further programs. By this time it should be fairly
obvious
to all that a larger government role is not the answer. And giving
favored
status to Hispanics, or any group, is equally incorrect.
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