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26 Dec 2005 08:33:01 PM |
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Re: Bush administration thanks God |
Golden State Poppy wrote:
Bush is a religious man and follows his beliefs. It does not follow
that all Republicans agree with him, or that all who voted for him
agree with his religious beliefs. In fact, most probably don't. But
his religious beliefs don't alter how he had functioned as a leader
post 9/11. Most still believe that he is the best leader to confront
worldwide terrorism. There has been no one put forth as a leader who
compares, except McCain. And because safety is so important to
Americans, McCain will probably be the next president.
And so the arrows of the crowned rider on a white horse unerringly
strike their destined targets as the rider gallops forth "as a
conqueror bent on conquest." (Revelation 6:2)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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27 Dec 2005 02:26:07 PM |
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<nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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Golden State Poppy wrote:
The usual crap. Andrew, you rally ARE a thick ***** aren't you? It wn't take
peple many minutes to realise these posts are from the troll of the century.
btw, I watched a film the other night. Passion of the Christ. Them buggers
REALLY fucked him over didn't they? I really hope they actually DIDN'T do
that to him, but by *****, I'd pay to see them do it to you.
*****.
--
Beav
OMF#19
VN 750
Zed Thou
mail is beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com (with the obvious changes)
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26 Dec 2005 10:30:42 PM |
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Golden State Poppy wrote:
Bush is a religious man and follows his beliefs. It does not follow
that all Republicans agree with him, or that all who voted for him
agree with his religious beliefs. In fact, most probably don't. But
his religious beliefs don't alter how he had functioned as a leader
post 9/11. Most still believe that he is the best leader to confront
worldwide terrorism. There has been no one put forth as a leader who
compares, except McCain. And because safety is so important to
Americans, McCain will probably be the next president.
And so the arrows of the crowned rider on a white horse unerringly
strike their destined targets as the rider gallops forth "as a
conqueror bent on conquest." (Revelation 6:2)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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27 Dec 2005 12:52:24 AM |
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On 26 Dec 2005 18:33:01 -0800, wrote:
ARRRAHAHFGGH!!!
The fuckin' dangerous lunatic Chung has changed socks AGAIN!!!
Andrew: Go and give yourself in to the nearest police station.
It's NOT for your own good.
It's for our children's welfare, OK?
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals onHis birthday (12/25/2005) |
27 Dec 2005 07:21:40 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 26 Dec 2005 18:33:01 -0800, wrote:
ARRRAHAHFGGH!!!
The fuckin' dangerous lunatic Chung has changed socks AGAIN!!!
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
http://tinyurl.com/96es4
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Beav" |
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
27 Dec 2005 02:27:10 PM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 26 Dec 2005 18:33:01 -0800, wrote:
ARRRAHAHFGGH!!!
The fuckin' dangerous lunatic Chung has changed socks AGAIN!!!
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
We have too. You keep changing your own, cuntface.
--
Beav
OMF#19
VN 750
Zed Thou
mail is beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com (with the obvious changes)
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| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
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27 Dec 2005 07:28:41 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
--
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "GaryG" |
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
27 Dec 2005 02:44:12 PM |
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"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:neb7uwh4ok2f.l188f7kmx4v5.dlg@40tude.net...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
--
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Have you noticed what he's now claiming? As I read it, he's claiming to
have solved one of the mysteries of the Bible (the different genealogies
listed for Jebus), and that this has resulted in the opening of the 1st of
the 7 seals as written in Revelations. Accordingly, we're now at the
beginning of the End Times and the Second Coming...and, all thanks to Chung
and his "powers of discernment". Truly bizarre...
GG
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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27 Dec 2005 06:55:57 PM |
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Sanity's little helper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
http://tinyurl.com/96es4
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
LORD Jesus Christ teaches:
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say
all kinds of evil against you because of ME. Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)
You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Jesus'
most precious and holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept HIM as your personal LORD and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of HIS everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that GOD truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign
of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan],
and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make HIS presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is
what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in the medical NGs :-)
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:
http://www.TheHealthFair.com
You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization
about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary
speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit
personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach):
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "GaryG" |
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27 Dec 2005 07:25:01 PM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135731357.225552.44370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sanity's little helper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
http://tinyurl.com/96es4
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
LORD Jesus Christ teaches:
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say
all kinds of evil against you because of ME. Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)
In your ongoing role as a Usenet whack-job and troll, you have received many
such "blessings" :-) . However, people aren't rejecting you due to your
belief in Jebus...instead it's your behavior that is at issue.
GG
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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28 Dec 2005 01:08:54 AM |
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GaryG wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135731357.225552.44370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sanity's little helper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
http://tinyurl.com/96es4
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
LORD Jesus Christ teaches:
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say
all kinds of evil against you because of ME. Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)
In your ongoing role as a Usenet whack-job and troll, you have received many
such "blessings" :-) . However, people aren't rejecting you due to your
belief in Jebus...instead it's your behavior that is at issue.
The LORD guides me in everything I say, do, and write.
It remains my choice to continue walking with Christ Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-))
Sorry this choice (behavior) bothers you so terribly. Please forgive
my iniquities.
You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Jesus' most
precious and holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept HIM as your personal LORD and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of HIS everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that GOD truly made this special link describing that HE is
the great "I am" and that HIS message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of HIS 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign
of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan],
and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make HIS presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is
what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in the medical NGs :-)
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:
http://www.TheHealthFair.com
You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization
about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary
speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit
personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach):
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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31 Dec 2005 10:49:22 AM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
--
Beav
OMF#19
VN 750
Zed Thou
mail is beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com (with the obvious changes)
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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31 Dec 2005 12:33:56 PM |
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Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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31 Dec 2005 01:54:33 PM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some
professional help. May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No god.
IS THERE A GOD?
Strong Atheism's answer.
A BASIC DEFINITION OF GOD.
The general overarching definition of god as per
the major religions of the world is:
A. God is personal, God has will and consciousness.
B. God has free will.
C. God is the creator of all.
D. God is omnipotent.
E. God is omnibenevolent.
F. God is omniscient.
G. God is that which nothing more powerful
can be imagined.
These are the basic attributes that can be claimed
for the god of orthodox Judaism, Christianity,
Islam, and Hinduism.
Omnibenevolence and omniscience are actually
logically derivable from the claimed attribute of
omnipotence and so aren't not truly independent
attributes, and may be considered special aspects
of omnipotence.
There are other attributes of god, that he is the
only such god, that he is is immortal and that
god has always existed that are not important
for this discussion and for now, can be ignored.
They are secondary arguments and are for the most
part not foundational or truly necessary, except
those that can be logically derived from the
attributes listed above.
A CLASS OF GODS
It is important to note here that this is a
definition not for a particular god, but an
entire class of gods.
Sub-theories about god are not important here.
Christianity claims one may attain salvation
only through Jesus, Islam claims the Christian
dogma that Jesus was the son of god is
blasphemous.
Ideas like this though, are of little importance
to the overarching and general claims made for a
personal, creator, omni-everything god. I have
coined a term, The Grand God of Grand Theologies
for this sort of god, this sort of theological
system of expansive claims for god.
Grand theologies are those theologies that have
adopted this class of god as their basic
attributes concerning the nature of god. But it
is important to remember here that what is being
discussed here is a class of gods, not particular
gods or specific gods.
THE FOUR GREAT THEOLOGICAL TRADITIONS
Again, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism hold
to this basic Grand God and are typical Grand
Theologies holding to this basic class of god as
their basic definitions of what god is at god's
most basic level.
A big problem with this class of gods is, it
collapses rather easily into internal self-
contradiction.
THE PROBLEM OF EVIL.
The problem of evil was first written down by
Epicurus in about the third century BCE.
Today's formulation is:
A. God is defined as omnipotent;
B. and as omnibenevolent.
C. Evil exists.
D. God therefore, is not omnipotent as claimed.
E. Or God is not omnibenevolent as claimed.
F. Or god is neither omnipotent or
omnibenevolent.
G. Or god is not existant.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE
The free will defense of the problem of evil goes
back to St. Augustine who popularized it. It is
still popular, and is championed most notably
today by Alvin Plantinga, but also by other
theologians.
God gave man free will. Man freely chooses to do
evil. Ability to do evil is less evil than
lacking free will.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE DEBUNKED.
God has free will.
God is omnibenevolent, he has a good nature
incapable of doing evil.
A. If god can have free will, and a good nature,
this good nature is not allowed to count
against god's free will.
B. Nor is god's lack of ability to do evil
allowed to count against god's omnipotence.
C. Likewise, man could easily have a god like
free will and a god like good nature.
D. Inabilty then to do evil would no more count
against man's free will than it does for god's
free will.
E. If so, it also counts against god's free will
and god does not have free will as claimed.
F. If god does not have absolute and total free
will, thus free will is not a true necessity
at all.
F. If god is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, and
can give man a god like free will and a
god-like good nature incapable of moral evil,
god must do so or god is not moral, not
omnibenevolent.
G. Evil exists because he allows it to.
So free will does not exist, or it does and we can
have a god like free will and a god like good
nature. Either way, free will cannot explain away
the existence of evil. This free will defense
then, is a failed argument.
OMNISCIENCE VERSUS CREATORHOOD OF GOD
God is defined as creator of all in most
religions.
And god is claimed to be omniscient, all knowing.
A. God created the Universe and all in it.
B. God is omniscient, all knowing, he knows all
in the Universe and he knows the future of the
Universe and its contents.
C. If god creates a Universe, he will know that
in 13 billion years this Universe will have a
man named John Smith in it.
D. If John Smith is good and saved, or evil and
damned, God will know that.
E. As he knows that the Universe in its present
state will have a John Smith, god may then
contemplate the future state of Smith and
decide if he will tolerate an evil Smith.
F. If yes, Smith will be evil only because of a
specific personal and will choice made solely
by god.
G. If Smith is evil, then evil exists solely
because of a choice made by god. In fact all
moral evil done by creations of god will be
evil and do evil only because of personal and
willful creations of god allowing evil acts
to be done, by direct decision of god.
H. If evil exists in a world with an omniscient
creator god, it is solely and only because
god allows evil.
I. If evil exists solely because of personal
choices of god, god then is not as defined,
omnibenevolent.
J. Man and any other sentient being in such a
Universe cannot have any free will, not even
in principle. A Universe with a god that
creates all and knows all precludes free will
for all beings god creates in the strongest
possible manner.
The Grand God of Grand
Theology is thus self destroying, it is
incoherent and contradictory as a theory.
THE SITUATION SO FAR.
1. A minimalistic class of gods is defined, this
Grand God has been defined here with as few
terms as possible.
2. The problem of evil dooms such a claimed god.
3. The attempted defense, free will is fatally
flawed. God's good nature and free will doom
claims free will makes evil necessary for man
to have free will.
4. Omniscience and creatorhood of god further
doom claims of god's omnibenevolence and
man's free will free will cannot exist for
man. All evil is the direct and knowing
creation of god contradicting claims of
omnibenevolence.
5. Since Free will for man is totally impossible,
free will cannot be a good quality, much less
necessary.
Here, the Grand God of Grand Theology has
collapsed. As has Grand
Theology. As pointed out, this destroys the claims
and viability of an entire class of possible
gods,
all secondary and tertiary claims for such a god
of
this class also fail, as do dogmas or secondary
or tertiary claims.
If a these Grand Gods cannot exist as defined,
specific gods cannot, nor can claims such as this
or that Grand God sent this or that revelation to
man or some prophet or did this or that.
God is thus disproven and is utter irrelevant
to anything real and existant.
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Happy Hogmanay!
Cheerful Charlie
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01 Jan 2006 10:04:06 AM |
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On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
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01 Jan 2006 01:03:39 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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01 Jan 2006 02:39:13 PM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some
professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
More nonsense, Andy.
Where, exactly, is Mohammed's corpse?
And if lack of a corpse proves that someone is still alive, does this mean
that King Arthur is still alive?
GG
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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01 Jan 2006 03:09:35 PM |
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On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
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01 Jan 2006 03:55:55 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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27 Jan 2006 11:01:11 AM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some
professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
Slick, nit not slick enough *****.
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31 Jan 2006 04:26:30 AM |
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Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some
professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
Slick, nit not slick enough *****.
Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld
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01 Jan 2006 06:27:59 PM |
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On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
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01 Jan 2006 09:34:09 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
The Holy Quran identifies Jesus as the son of Mary, prophet of Allah
empowered by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Quran was written by Mohammed who was by all accounts an
illiterate man who needed Archangel Gabriel's help in setting pen to
paper to write this document that supports the existence of Jesus,
Whose corpse has not ever been recovered because HE lives.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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01 Jan 2006 10:09:48 PM |
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On 1 Jan 2006 19:34:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136172849.724079.76330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
The Holy Quran identifies Jesus as the son of Mary, prophet of Allah
empowered by the Holy Spirit.
A religious text claims something to be true. That's interesting, but it
isn't evidence. Religious writings are never evidence.
The Holy Quran was written by Mohammed who was by all accounts an
illiterate man who needed Archangel Gabriel's help in setting pen to
paper to write this document that supports the existence of Jesus,
Whose corpse has not ever been recovered because HE lives.
He physically wrote it? What evidence is there of this?
Again, you repeat a claim about a person whose entire existence cannot
be verified.
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01 Jan 2006 11:01:51 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 19:34:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136172849.724079.76330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
The Holy Quran identifies Jesus as the son of Mary, prophet of Allah
empowered by the Holy Spirit.
A religious text claims something to be true. That's interesting, but it
isn't evidence. Religious writings are never evidence.
They are when the writers have been historically opposed to that which
they are being used to prove. Mohammed had no reason to being party to
propagating accounts of Jesus' existence and HIS powers if HE were
fictional and every reason to do exactly the opposite.
The Holy Quran was written by Mohammed who was by all accounts an
illiterate man who needed Archangel Gabriel's help in setting pen to
paper to write this document that supports the existence of Jesus,
Whose corpse has not ever been recovered because HE lives.
He physically wrote it? What evidence is there of this?
It is what I discern.
Again, you repeat a claim about a person whose entire existence cannot
be verified.
Mohammed's existence is easily verified:
http://tinyurl.com/8gao9
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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01 Jan 2006 11:08:25 PM |
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On 1 Jan 2006 21:01:51 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136177097.784295.255490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 19:34:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136172849.724079.76330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
The Holy Quran identifies Jesus as the son of Mary, prophet of Allah
empowered by the Holy Spirit.
A religious text claims something to be true. That's interesting, but it
isn't evidence. Religious writings are never evidence.
They are when the writers have been historically opposed to that which
they are being used to prove. Mohammed had no reason to being party to
propagating accounts of Jesus' existence and HIS powers if HE were
fictional and every reason to do exactly the opposite.
Mohammed used Jesus and Moses as justification for his writing. They
were used to prop up the teachings that Mohammed had given. He had lots
of motivation to get people to accept the claim that he was the next in
a line of prophets of God.
The Holy Quran was written by Mohammed who was by all accounts an
illiterate man who needed Archangel Gabriel's help in setting pen to
paper to write this document that supports the existence of Jesus,
Whose corpse has not ever been recovered because HE lives.
He physically wrote it? What evidence is there of this?
It is what I discern.
Again, you repeat a claim about a person whose entire existence cannot
be verified.
Mohammed's existence is easily verified:
http://tinyurl.com/8gao9
The supposedly missing corpse is Jesus's though. He is the one with poor
evidence.
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[learn to put your .sig in properly.]
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01 Jan 2006 11:28:09 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 21:01:51 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136177097.784295.255490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 19:34:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136172849.724079.76330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
The Holy Quran identifies Jesus as the son of Mary, prophet of Allah
empowered by the Holy Spirit.
A religious text claims something to be true. That's interesting, but it
isn't evidence. Religious writings are never evidence.
They are when the writers have been historically opposed to that which
they are being used to prove. Mohammed had no reason to being party to
propagating accounts of Jesus' existence and HIS powers if HE were
fictional and every reason to do exactly the opposite.
Mohammed used Jesus and Moses as justification for his writing.
Would suggest you read the Holy Quran to find out that you write out of
ignorance.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
02 Jan 2006 07:09:50 PM |
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Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1136179689.491882.140820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
[. . .]
Would suggest you read the Holy Quran to find out that you write out of
ignorance.
Are you as uneducated about the textual critical history of the Quran as
you are about the textual critical history of the Bible?
"The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on
folly." (Proverbs 15:14)
Isn't it a little dubious to accept a book traditionally attributed to
Mohammed dating from the seventh century as evidence for who may have
lived in the first century?
The truth is timeless.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
03 Jan 2006 07:10:39 AM |
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Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1136250590.523165.184160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1136179689.491882.140820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
[. . .]
Would suggest you read the Holy Quran to find out that you write out of
ignorance.
Are you as uneducated about the textual critical history of the Quran as
you are about the textual critical history of the Bible?
"The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on
folly." (Proverbs 15:14)
Next question, then, from a discerning heart seeking knowledge: Have
you ever given a straight answer to a question that has been asked of
you?
All the time :-)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/05/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
01 Jan 2006 06:51:23 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:27:59 -0600, David Jensen
<david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 13:55:55 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136152555.610409.80900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136142219.146127.217180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 10:33:56 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1136054036.441856.248000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Beav wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're really losing the plot Chung. You need to get some professional help.
May I suggest you talk to Mohammed?
Mohammed is dead. LORD Jesus lives :-))
No evidence supports that claim.
Actually there is a corpse for the former and a lack of one for the
latter.
How is the apparent lack of a corpse for a preacher who may or may not
have ever existed evidence about anything?
For the faithless, no amount of evidence will be sufficient.
For me, no evidence is not sufficient. Now, do you have any evidence at
all to support your religious claims?
It is yet another standard fundy slander, when they have provided no
evidence whatsoever.
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| User: "Werner -the Christian Agnostic- Kurator" |
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| Title: Re: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on His birthday (12/25/2005) |
28 Dec 2005 07:29:09 AM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
in <1135753734.611437.315780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
on 2005-12-28 announced this statement:
GaryG wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1135731357.225552.44370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sanity's little helper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Those who are insecure in the truth lack the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling:
http://tinyurl.com/96es4
Calling you a dangerous lunatic is not name calling, it is fair comment,
given your propensity for posing as a qualified physician and ranting
incoherently in Usenet.
LORD Jesus Christ teaches:
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say
all kinds of evil against you because of ME. Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)
In your ongoing role as a Usenet whack-job and troll, you have received many
such "blessings" :-) . However, people aren't rejecting you due to your
belief in Jebus...instead it's your behavior that is at issue.
The LORD guides me in everything I say, do, and write.
So he was at fault, when you falsly accused me of accusing you to have
changed a subject, while in fact the subject was "faith in the power of
God", which you yourself had used, and this gave me the opportunity to
point out to you the real-life story of a mother who found out, that
her faith didn't help her daughter who was suffering from anorexia.
<snip>
Werner Kurator
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"Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by
imperfect man, this one falls short of it goal. Yet we are
grateful to God for the extend to which he has enabled us to
realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our
colleagues to complete our task"
Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible
August 1983......
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"In fact, many professing agnostics are nearer belief in
the true God then are many conventional church-goers who
believe in a bogey that does not exist whom they miscall God."
Leslie D. Weatherhead; Preface to his "The Christian Agnostic"
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"And God said, 'Let there be vodka'. And there was vodka, and He saw that it
was good. And God said, 'Let there be light'. And then he said, 'Gggh. Too
much light'." -- tg1g
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