Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"'



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User: "Warnock"
Date: 15 Feb 2004 10:28:20 AM
Object: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"'
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote in message
news:2WxSb.8485$2J1.4604@fe1.texas.rr.com...

I can tell you this. I felt far more safe when Clinton was President
than now. I think most Americans did.


<Bumper sticker wisdom:>
"Please, God, give me eight more years of Clinton. I promise I won't

*****

it

away this time."

-DMc


More bumper sticker wisdom for 2004:
"Someone less dumb for President."

Evolvefish has lots of good stickers and buttons.

http://www.evolvefish.com


I love those guys.

I have their "Evolution fish humping jehovah fish" emblem on the back of

my

truck, along with "No Gods, No Masters."

Effectively stirs the shitpot.....

****** But then again, there IS a God and people need to get used to the
idea!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
.

User: "The Plasmatron"

Title: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"' 16 Feb 2004 05:35:42 AM
In alt.atheism Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote in message
news:2WxSb.8485$2J1.4604@fe1.texas.rr.com...

I can tell you this. I felt far more safe when Clinton was President
than now. I think most Americans did.


<Bumper sticker wisdom:>
"Please, God, give me eight more years of Clinton. I promise I won't

*****

it

away this time."

-DMc


More bumper sticker wisdom for 2004:
"Someone less dumb for President."

Evolvefish has lots of good stickers and buttons.

http://www.evolvefish.com


I love those guys.

I have their "Evolution fish humping jehovah fish" emblem on the back of

my

truck, along with "No Gods, No Masters."

Effectively stirs the shitpot.....

****** But then again, there IS a God and people need to get used to the
idea!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**

Being a deist I probably shouldn't get into this debate, but I just
can't resist pointing out what a STUPID argument that is for the
existence of God. We lack more advanced technology, therefore there is
a god?! I mean, come on! We've got several things being researched
now that could resonably end up with scientests being able to create
animals from scratch, assembling them molecule by molecule. For
anything much less impressive than that we've already got it.
Doctors REGULARLY save people who a hundred years ago would have been
considered well and thouraly dead, essentially bringing them back to
life. Look up "near death experience" on the web and you'll find out
just how "near" those experiences can be. So, just off hand, I would
say that's a big 'old "CHECK" on breathing life into the dead. Give us
another century and we'll start creating and breathing life into
engineered animals. Sure, christians will call it an abomination, but
almost all advancement, be it in science or whatever, has been called
an abomination by christians, so why should anyone reasonable care?
--
The Left Reverend Plasmatron at hotpop com
"Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think"
- Niels Bohr
.
User: "SMChristenson"

Title: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"' 16 Feb 2004 08:08:54 AM
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:35:42 +0000, The Plasmatron wrote:

In alt.atheism Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote in message
news:2WxSb.8485$2J1.4604@fe1.texas.rr.com...



I can tell you this. I felt far more safe when Clinton was
President than now. I think most Americans did.


<Bumper sticker wisdom:>
"Please, God, give me eight more years of Clinton. I promise I
won't

*****

it

away this time."

-DMc


More bumper sticker wisdom for 2004:
"Someone less dumb for President."

Evolvefish has lots of good stickers and buttons.

http://www.evolvefish.com


I love those guys.

I have their "Evolution fish humping jehovah fish" emblem on the back
of

my

truck, along with "No Gods, No Masters."

Effectively stirs the shitpot.....


****** But then again, there IS a God and people need to get used to
the idea!


--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****


** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no
God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having
to comply with God's Law!**


Being a deist I probably shouldn't get into this debate, but I just
can't resist pointing out what a STUPID argument that is for the
existence of God. We lack more advanced technology, therefore there is
a god?! I mean, come on! We've got several things being researched now
that could resonably end up with scientests being able to create animals
from scratch, assembling them molecule by molecule. For anything much
less impressive than that we've already got it.

Doctors REGULARLY save people who a hundred years ago would have been
considered well and thouraly dead, essentially bringing them back to
life. Look up "near death experience" on the web and you'll find out
just how "near" those experiences can be. So, just off hand, I would
say that's a big 'old "CHECK" on breathing life into the dead. Give us
another century and we'll start creating and breathing life into
engineered animals. Sure, christians will call it an abomination, but
almost all advancement, be it in science or whatever, has been called an
abomination by christians, so why should anyone reasonable care?

I can respect that. An awful lot of argument for religion is based on a
leap from ignorance to, therefore, religion. It's easy to look back 4000
years and say, "Boy, those people were ignorant." Not so easy to imagine
4000 years from now when people will look back on us and say, "Boy, those
people were ignorant."
Far from fire-breathing hubris, I think you will find a strong vein of
humility before our still-overwhelming ignorance in a lot of atheists.
.
User: "Le Mod Pol"

Title: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"' 16 Feb 2004 06:05:36 PM
Every one of the ten newsgroups xposted here was off
topic. You risk losing your account for your stupidity
SMChristenson wrote:


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:35:42 +0000, The Plasmatron wrote:

In alt.atheism Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote in message
news:2WxSb.8485$2J1.4604@fe1.texas.rr.com...



I can tell you this. I felt far more safe when Clinton was
President than now. I think most Americans did.


<Bumper sticker wisdom:>
"Please, God, give me eight more years of Clinton. I promise I
won't

*****

it

away this time."

-DMc


More bumper sticker wisdom for 2004:
"Someone less dumb for President."

Evolvefish has lots of good stickers and buttons.

http://www.evolvefish.com


I love those guys.

I have their "Evolution fish humping jehovah fish" emblem on the back
of

my

truck, along with "No Gods, No Masters."

Effectively stirs the shitpot.....


****** But then again, there IS a God and people need to get used to
the idea!


--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****


** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no
God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having
to comply with God's Law!**


Being a deist I probably shouldn't get into this debate, but I just
can't resist pointing out what a STUPID argument that is for the
existence of God. We lack more advanced technology, therefore there is
a god?! I mean, come on! We've got several things being researched now
that could resonably end up with scientests being able to create animals
from scratch, assembling them molecule by molecule. For anything much
less impressive than that we've already got it.

Doctors REGULARLY save people who a hundred years ago would have been
considered well and thouraly dead, essentially bringing them back to
life. Look up "near death experience" on the web and you'll find out
just how "near" those experiences can be. So, just off hand, I would
say that's a big 'old "CHECK" on breathing life into the dead. Give us
another century and we'll start creating and breathing life into
engineered animals. Sure, christians will call it an abomination, but
almost all advancement, be it in science or whatever, has been called an
abomination by christians, so why should anyone reasonable care?


I can respect that. An awful lot of argument for religion is based on a
leap from ignorance to, therefore, religion. It's easy to look back 4000
years and say, "Boy, those people were ignorant." Not so easy to imagine
4000 years from now when people will look back on us and say, "Boy, those
people were ignorant."

Far from fire-breathing hubris, I think you will find a strong vein of
humility before our still-overwhelming ignorance in a lot of atheists.

--
LP
In politics, moderation is the best policy.
.
User: "= Vox Populi ©"

Title: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"' 17 Feb 2004 02:57:25 AM
Le Mod Pol wrote:

Every one of the ten newsgroups xposted here was off
topic. You risk losing your account for your stupidity

Shut the ***** up, frog.


SMChristenson wrote:


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:35:42 +0000, The Plasmatron wrote:

In alt.atheism Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote in message
news:2WxSb.8485$2J1.4604@fe1.texas.rr.com...



I can tell you this. I felt far more safe when Clinton was
President than now. I think most Americans did.


<Bumper sticker wisdom:>
"Please, God, give me eight more years of Clinton. I promise I
won't ***** it
away this time."

-DMc


More bumper sticker wisdom for 2004:
"Someone less dumb for President."

Evolvefish has lots of good stickers and buttons.

http://www.evolvefish.com


I love those guys.

I have their "Evolution fish humping jehovah fish" emblem on the
back of

my

truck, along with "No Gods, No Masters."

Effectively stirs the shitpot.....


****** But then again, there IS a God and people need to get used
to the idea!


--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****


** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that
no God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of
having to comply with God's Law!**


Being a deist I probably shouldn't get into this debate, but I
just can't resist pointing out what a STUPID argument that is for
the existence of God. We lack more advanced technology, therefore
there is a god?! I mean, come on! We've got several things being
researched now that could resonably end up with scientests being
able to create animals from scratch, assembling them molecule by
molecule. For anything much less impressive than that we've
already got it.

Doctors REGULARLY save people who a hundred years ago would have
been considered well and thouraly dead, essentially bringing them
back to life. Look up "near death experience" on the web and
you'll find out just how "near" those experiences can be. So, just
off hand, I would say that's a big 'old "CHECK" on breathing life
into the dead. Give us another century and we'll start creating
and breathing life into engineered animals. Sure, christians will
call it an abomination, but almost all advancement, be it in
science or whatever, has been called an abomination by christians,
so why should anyone reasonable care?


I can respect that. An awful lot of argument for religion is based
on a leap from ignorance to, therefore, religion. It's easy to look
back 4000 years and say, "Boy, those people were ignorant." Not so
easy to imagine 4000 years from now when people will look back on us
and say, "Boy, those people were ignorant."

Far from fire-breathing hubris, I think you will find a strong vein
of humility before our still-overwhelming ignorance in a lot of
atheists.

--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
.
User: "SMChristenson"

Title: Re: 'BUSH CLAIMS TO NEVER SAY IRAQ WAS "IMMINENT THREAT"' 17 Feb 2004 07:16:46 AM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:57:25 -0700, => Vox Populi © wrote:

Le Mod Pol wrote:

Every one of the ten newsgroups xposted here was off
topic. You risk losing your account for your stupidity


Shut the ***** up, frog.

Why, thank you. I'm not generally that succinct, but, yes, "Le Mod Pol"
is obviously a person of little stature.
.






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