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"Bill Levinson" |
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05 Aug 2004 12:11:16 PM |
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Re: Bush The Baby Killer |
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Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Expanding dossier on Kerry,
royalty-free downloadable leaflets.
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| User: "The Pretzel" |
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05 Aug 2004 12:41:15 PM |
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"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
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grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You Rightards would
call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
I guess Bill "Vegas Jack" Bennet was right when he wrote "The End of Outrage".
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Expanding dossier on Kerry,
royalty-free downloadable leaflets.
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| User: "Harold" |
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05 Aug 2004 07:49:47 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:41:15 GMT, "The Pretzel"
<rold_gold@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You Rightards would
call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
Long since became legal, even if you could prove it.
Its funny all the Dims who love this made up story from 35 years ago,
but object to Kerry's "band of brothers" questioning Kerry's war
record.
Regards, Harold (Capitalist Pig)
----
The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it.
And one path we shall never choose, and that is
the path of surrender, or submission."
----President John F. Kennedy
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| User: "The Pretzel" |
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05 Aug 2004 08:52:43 PM |
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"Harold" <hcbrashears@netscape.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:41:15 GMT, "The Pretzel"
<rold_gold@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You Rightards would
call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
Long since became legal, even if you could prove it.
NOT when it happened. I don't go out and kill people because you Rightards made
it legal in Iraq. It works both in time and geographical location.
Its funny all the Dims who love this made up story from 35 years ago,
but object to Kerry's "band of brothers" questioning Kerry's war
It's because they're not his band or his brothers or his "band of brothers".
record.
Regards, Harold (Capitalist Pig)
Won't argue that. What kind you are is irrelevant.
----
The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it.
And one path we shall never choose, and that is
the path of surrender, or submission."
----President John F. Kennedy
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| User: "Bill Levinson" |
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05 Aug 2004 02:46:47 PM |
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The Pretzel wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You Rightards would
call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
No, if it wasn't a late-term abortion I would, as a juror, refuse to
convict a woman for having one even if it was illegal. I believe that a
woman has a right to control her body until the fetus becomes a separate
"person" worthy of individual legal protection.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Expanding dossier on Kerry,
royalty-free downloadable leaflets.
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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05 Aug 2004 02:53:05 PM |
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:H8wQc.12281$Jp6.6263@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
The Pretzel wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an
illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You
Rightards would call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
No, if it wasn't a late-term abortion I would, as a juror, refuse to
convict a woman for having one even if it was illegal. I believe that
a woman has a right to control her body until the fetus becomes a
separate "person" worthy of individual legal protection.
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since the
typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without major
medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights up until
this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the mother's life is
at stake, or there is a major health risk, then "late-term abortion"
should still be an option. You could even hold that a hospital review
board has to approve the procedure at that point. Or make a cesarian
removal an option - then see if the fetus is viable without major medical
intervention.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "The Pretzel" |
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05 Aug 2004 03:04:56 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:H8wQc.12281$Jp6.6263@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
The Pretzel wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an
illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You
Rightards would call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
No, if it wasn't a late-term abortion I would, as a juror, refuse to
convict a woman for having one even if it was illegal. I believe that
a woman has a right to control her body until the fetus becomes a
separate "person" worthy of individual legal protection.
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since the
typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without major
medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights up until
this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the mother's life is
at stake, or there is a major health risk, then "late-term abortion"
should still be an option. You could even hold that a hospital review
board has to approve the procedure at that point. Or make a cesarian
removal an option - then see if the fetus is viable without major medical
intervention.
OMG.
What's happening? WELCOME to the "pro-choice" platform fellahs!
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Bill Levinson" |
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05 Aug 2004 08:06:04 PM |
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The Pretzel wrote:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns953CA1B3DAE1FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:H8wQc.12281$Jp6.6263@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
The Pretzel wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:UStQc.12158$Jp6.10838@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an
illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You
Rightards would call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
No, if it wasn't a late-term abortion I would, as a juror, refuse to
convict a woman for having one even if it was illegal. I believe that
a woman has a right to control her body until the fetus becomes a
separate "person" worthy of individual legal protection.
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since the
typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without major
medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights up until
this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the mother's life is
at stake, or there is a major health risk, then "late-term abortion"
should still be an option. You could even hold that a hospital review
board has to approve the procedure at that point. Or make a cesarian
removal an option - then see if the fetus is viable without major medical
intervention.
OMG.
What's happening? WELCOME to the "pro-choice" platform fellahs!
I've always been pro-choice, at least until the fetus becomes a
"person." I recall a professor who had what seemed like the best
solution: abortion legal for any and all reasons in the first trimester,
no questions asked; after that, only to protect the life or physical
safety of the mother.
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Dossier on John Kerry, his
association with racists and anti-Semites. Royalty-free downloadable
leaflets.
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| User: "Don" |
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05 Aug 2004 10:17:08 PM |
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"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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06 Aug 2004 10:13:35 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message news:<UKCQc.12715$Jp6.9555@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
It is a human.
Michael
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| User: "Bill Levinson" |
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05 Aug 2004 11:10:08 PM |
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Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Dossier on John Kerry, his
association with racists and anti-Semites. Royalty-free downloadable
leaflets.
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| User: "Don" |
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05 Aug 2004 11:51:34 PM |
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"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions, Bill.
Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for awhile.
I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they please with their
body.
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:56:48 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:q7EQc.12795$Jp6.6503@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must
be the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions, Bill.
Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for awhile.
I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they please with
their body.
Your question was indicative of your own inability to read and
comprehend as Bill had clearly stated the answer in the prior post. And
before you jump all over either of us, you should know that Bill and I
have never agreed on anything, ever before this.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:48:37 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns953E83D035BB4biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:q7EQc.12795$Jp6.6503@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must
be the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions, Bill.
Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for awhile.
I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they please with
their body.
Your question was indicative of your own inability to read and
comprehend as Bill had clearly stated the answer in the prior post. And
before you jump all over either of us, you should know that Bill and I
have never agreed on anything, ever before this.
Then perhaps you can answer the question?
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| User: "Bill Levinson" |
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06 Aug 2004 12:15:19 PM |
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Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions, Bill.
Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for awhile.
I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they please with their
body.
Why are you making pro-life arguments, then?
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/ Dossier on John Kerry, his
association with racists and anti-Semites. Royalty-free downloadable
leaflets.
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 09:09:18 AM |
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"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife, "They
have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do we." They
only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions, Bill.
Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for awhile.
I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they please with their
body.
Why are you making pro-life arguments, then?
You said a human embryo is not a person, then I asked you what it was.
From that you determined that I am *pro-life*?
You seemed to be confused, Bill.
Perhaps too many Monty Python movies?
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:57:32 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:io5Rc.4401$nx2.880@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You
must be the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm
counts."
They got on Protestants as well; the Protestant tells his wife,
"They have a child every time they have sex." She answers, "So do
we." They only have two kids, though.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the questions,
Bill. Perhaps you can't?
Maybe you should lay off the goofy movies and stupid jokes for
awhile. I'm an atheist, and I believe people should do as they
please with their body.
Why are you making pro-life arguments, then?
You said a human embryo is not a person, then I asked you what it was.
You just said that he said "human embryo". Why you are asking this
question when he clearly answered already?
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:45:15 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote
You just said that he said "human embryo". Why you are asking this
question when he clearly answered already?
What question did I ask?
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:55:12 AM |
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in news:AwDQc.12754
$Jp6.8224@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
Good point Bill. Also every egg. Why draw the line at conception? Why not
force women to become pregnant every time they ovulate so that no
potential human being is denied its right to life?
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:47:44 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns953E838ACB8D5biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in news:AwDQc.12754
$Jp6.8224@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Don wrote:
"Bill Levinson"> wrote
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
Then what is it, a hippopotamus?
What were you at that stage?
I suggest you watch "Monty Python and the Meaning of Life." You must be
the ultra-Catholic with 30 kids because "every sperm counts."
Good point Bill. Also every egg. Why draw the line at conception? Why not
force women to become pregnant every time they ovulate so that no
potential human being is denied its right to life?
How would a woman become pregnant when she ovulates?
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:53:48 AM |
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:0QAQc.12564$Jp6.1672@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
The Pretzel wrote:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:Xns953CA1B3DAE1FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:H8wQc.12281$Jp6.6263@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
The Pretzel wrote:
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
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grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
Baby Bush was aborted.
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During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an
illegal
abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
So you disagree with Roe v Wade?
--Bill
He broke the law moron. He paid for an ILLEGAL abortion. You
Rightards would call that murder.
Where is your outrage?
No, if it wasn't a late-term abortion I would, as a juror, refuse to
convict a woman for having one even if it was illegal. I believe
that a woman has a right to control her body until the fetus becomes
a separate "person" worthy of individual legal protection.
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since
the typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without
major medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights
up until this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the
mother's life is at stake, or there is a major health risk, then
"late-term abortion" should still be an option. You could even hold
that a hospital review board has to approve the procedure at that
point. Or make a cesarian removal an option - then see if the fetus
is viable without major medical intervention.
OMG.
What's happening? WELCOME to the "pro-choice" platform fellahs!
I've always been pro-choice, at least until the fetus becomes a
"person." I recall a professor who had what seemed like the best
solution: abortion legal for any and all reasons in the first
trimester, no questions asked; after that, only to protect the life or
physical safety of the mother.
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
--Bill
Make that first *and* second trimester and I am 100% with you.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:46:49 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
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I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
--Bill
Make that first *and* second trimester and I am 100% with you.
Why?
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08 Aug 2004 09:32:23 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in news:ZeiRc.7026$nx2.5550
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:0QAQc.12564$Jp6.1672@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
I do not consider an embryo or fertilized egg a "person" that is
entitled to legal protection.
--Bill
Make that first *and* second trimester and I am 100% with you.
Why?
Why not?
Here's a question for anyone who says "a fetus is a human child":
If an IVF clinic were on fire, would you rush in and risk your life to
save all the frozen "human children"?
If you answer "no" then you are a supreme hypocrite.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:49:29 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
"Don"> wrote
Make that first *and* second trimester and I am 100% with you.
Why?
Why not?
Seems you cannot answer the question.
That shows a flaw in your thinking.
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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20 Aug 2004 10:19:09 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in news:ZEdVc.3584$2L3.792
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
"Don"> wrote
Make that first *and* second trimester and I am 100% with you.
Why?
Why not?
Seems you cannot answer the question.
That shows a flaw in your thinking.
Seems you cannot answer my question either. Actually, I already answered
the question earlier in the thread. Go back a read it. Then again, that
would take away at least one opportunity to slig pithy insults. That
wouldn't leave you with much, would it?
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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05 Aug 2004 10:15:05 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since the
typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without major
medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights up until
this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the mother's life is
at stake, or there is a major health risk, then "late-term abortion"
should still be an option. You could even hold that a hospital review
board has to approve the procedure at that point. Or make a cesarian
removal an option - then see if the fetus is viable without major medical
intervention.
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:59:31 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:ZICQc.12712$Jp6.5943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since
the typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without
major medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights
up until this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the
mother's life is at stake, or there is a major health risk, then
"late-term abortion" should still be an option. You could even hold
that a hospital review board has to approve the procedure at that
point. Or make a cesarian removal an option - then see if the fetus
is viable without major medical intervention.
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
Really? Then any woman past the 4th month should be offered the option of
having her fetus removed for her.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:50:16 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns953E84467D41FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:ZICQc.12712$Jp6.5943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since
the typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without
major medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights
up until this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the
mother's life is at stake, or there is a major health risk, then
"late-term abortion" should still be an option. You could even hold
that a hospital review board has to approve the procedure at that
point. Or make a cesarian removal an option - then see if the fetus
is viable without major medical intervention.
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
Really?
Yes, really. Google is your friend.
Then any woman past the 4th month should be offered the option of
having her fetus removed for her.
Isn't that what abortion does?
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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08 Aug 2004 09:39:21 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in news:ciiRc.7037$nx2.2035
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns953E84467D41FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4...
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:ZICQc.12712$Jp6.5943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
Hey Bill - hard to believe but I'm with you 100% on this one. Since
the typical 6 month fetus cannot survive outside the womb without
major medical intervention, I personally favor full abortion rights
up until this point. After this point, if the doctor believes the
mother's life is at stake, or there is a major health risk, then
"late-term abortion" should still be an option. You could even hold
that a hospital review board has to approve the procedure at that
point. Or make a cesarian removal an option - then see if the fetus
is viable without major medical intervention.
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
Really?
Yes, really. Google is your friend.
I didn't realize the good folk at Google were into medical research these
days.
At 4 months, a fetus is roughly 5 inches long and weighs about 6 ounces.
It has no neocortex (therefore it cannot experience pain). It has non-
functional lungs and sealed eye lids. About 90% of all miscarriages
happen by this time.
The earliest a fetus can survive outside the womb is 23-24 weeks. And
even then, major medical intervention is required. The fetus cannot
breathe, even with mechanical assistance, until this point.
Then any woman past the 4th month should be offered the option of
having her fetus removed for her.
Isn't that what abortion does?
Thank you.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| User: "Don" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:51:45 PM |
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"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
"Don"> wrote
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
Really?
Yes, really. Google is your friend.
I didn't realize the good folk at Google were into medical research these
days.
Apparently there are many things that you do not realize.
Google is your friend, use it to your benefit.
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| User: "Dick \Go F%*& Yourself\ Cheney" |
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20 Aug 2004 10:20:54 AM |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:5HdVc.3586$2L3.885@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"***** "Go F%*& Yourself" Cheney"> wrote
"Don"> wrote
The *moment of viability* is down to 4 months these days.
Really?
Yes, really. Google is your friend.
I didn't realize the good folk at Google were into medical research
these days.
Apparently there are many things that you do not realize.
Google is your friend, use it to your benefit.
I find it interesting that you demanded answers from me and then snipped
them just so you could throw out yet another pathetic attempt at insult.
This is exactly why we need to make sure that people who are the victims
of incestuous rape can readily get abortions.
--
Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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