Re: CA006.2: Stalin's policies were influenced by Darwin



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "david ford"
Date: 08 Aug 2006 10:32:41 PM
Object: Re: CA006.2: Stalin's policies were influenced by Darwin
bullpup wrote:

<gesres@boundvortex.com> wrote in message

news:1155086647.650571.69740@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

I suggest that such a significant refutation of the charge lends it a
significance it doesn't deserve. Even if the charge is true, so what?
The use that Stalin made of the knowledge has no bearing on its
truthfulness. Moreover, I suspect there have been many more leaders
(such as the Pope, maybe?) who have believed in evolution, yet did not
commit genocide, which undermines any cause/effect relationship.

My view is that the accusation deserves 2 or 3 lines in response; any
more than that looks weak, and gives the opposition a chance to exploit
any factual errors.


Unfortunatly, a "so what" response to the accusation is insufficient at
times. The more completely debunked a claim, the better.

From
Essay on Problems with Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005310900310.17702-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
Soren Lovtrup (Dept of Zoophysiology, U. of Umea, Umea, Sweden) notes
that "Darwin's theory [of natural selection] does make some falsifiable
statements,"67 and lists as #3 the prediction that "evolution has
occurred in small steps (_Natura non facit saltum_)."68 With a
reference to this neo-Darwinian claim, and to Darwin's "He who rejects
this view of the imperfection of the geological record, will rightly
reject the whole theory...." (see above), Lovtrup comments,
Considering the statement of Darwin quoted above, I should under
other conditions regard the above falsification [by the fossil
record] of the third Darwinian prediction as sufficient for
falsification of the Darwinian theory. But the inefficiency of
counter arguments in the past suggests that it is necessary to
go
one step further in the analysis of the Darwinian stand.69
"Unfortunatly, a 'so what' response to the accusation is insufficient
at times. The more completely debunked a claim, the better."
.


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