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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "david ford"
Date: 17 Oct 2005 01:39:09 PM
Object: Re: CA211.1: Popper on evolution's falsifiability
J. J. Lodder wrote:

Bob <wf3h@comcast.net> wrote:

rather odd in that natural selection is never mentioned in 'mein
kampf'..


Of course not, dear Mr Hitler would have prefered
to do all the selecting in person.

Hitler's human breeding plan using selection + mutations
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1124684179.251743.95950%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1124731489.829229.220700%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

But being somewhat limited in time he had to employ others,
such as the SS, to do the selecting for him.

2004 Kater
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1126752603.953619.262940%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Himmler, a former chicken farmer..., was ruled by very
strong beliefs regarding the application of breeding
theories to humans-- by way of positive selection for the
"Aryans" and negative selection for their natural enemies,
the Slavs, Gypsies, and Jews.

He certainly wouldn't have trusted Nature to do the job,
for Nature had clearly proven incompetent,
given that the earth wasn't populated by Aryans only.

Not "incompetent," just a little lamentably slow and in need of
speeding up. Do you grant that artificial selection can get things
done faster than can Darwinian natural selection?
Fest on "Social Darwinism in Hitler's thought"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125598958.059080.62950%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
fruit fly URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0403082115.67a4b153%40posting.google.com
.

User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: CA211.1: Popper on evolution's falsifiability 17 Oct 2005 02:01:26 PM
david ford wrote:


Not "incompetent," just a little lamentably slow and in need of
speeding up. Do you grant that artificial selection can get things
done faster than can Darwinian natural selection?

It sure could. Animal and plant breeders do it all the time. Nature, as
such, is as dumb as a bag of rocks. It takes Nature longer.
Bob Kolker
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User: "david ford"

Title: Re: CA211.1: Popper on evolution's falsifiability 18 Oct 2005 01:35:28 PM
Robert J. Kolker wrote:

david ford wrote:


Not "incompetent," just a little lamentably slow and in need of
speeding up. Do you grant that artificial selection can get things
done faster than can Darwinian natural selection?


It sure could. Animal and plant breeders do it all the time. Nature, as
such, is as dumb as a bag of rocks. It takes Nature longer.

Which do you think "takes... longer"?:
a) intelligent human chemists and biologists creating biological life
starting simply with non-living matter, or
b) life coming from non-living matter apart from intelligence doing
anything with that non-living matter
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
some 1915-1999 doses of reality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33arf3F3vjdggU1%40individual.net
1985 A.G. Cairns-Smith, 1986 Andrew Scott, 1999 Freeman Dyson
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-33bltcF3rgbovU1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
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