Walter Bushell wrote:
In article <43507b50.470403435@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
wf3h@comcast.net (Bob) wrote:
On 14 Oct 2005 20:37:15 -0700, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:
Bob wrote:
rather odd in that natural selection is never mentioned in 'mein
kampf'...
Do you grant that themes and phraseology along the lines of 'Nature is
red in tooth and claw' _are_ "mentioned in 'mein kampf'"?
non sequitur. again, neither darwin, nor natural selection are
mentioned in 'mein kampf'. do you grant this fact? if so, then how can
you say hitler used darwin?
Hitler embraced Darwinian natural selection
and the christian church murdered jews and 2,000,000 blacks during the
slave trade without benefit of darwin.
benefit of Darwin was not needed as
they had benefit of clergy.
"they had benefit of clergy" in what ways?
Who is "they"?
"clergy"
Do you agree with anything in the Goebbels below?
12 May 1943 Goebbels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120260213.363834.164990%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
The Fuehrer spoke very derogatorily about the arrogance
of the higher and lower clergy. The insanity of the
Christian doctrine of redemption really doesn't fit at all
into our time. Nevertheless there are learned, educated
men, occupying high positions in public life, who cling to it
with the faith of a child. It is simply incomprehensible
how anybody can consider the Christian doctrine of
redemption as a guide for the difficult life of today. The
Fuehrer cited a number of exceptionally drastic and in
part even grotesque examples. The opinionated "sky pilots"
[clergy members -df] of course know exactly how the world is
constituted. Whereas the most learned and wisest
scientists struggle for a whole lifetime to study but one of
the mysterious laws of nature, a little country priest from
Bavaria is in a position to decide this matter on the basis
of his religious knowledge. One can regard such a
disgusting performance only with disdain. A church that
does not keep step with modern scientific knowledge is
doomed. It may take quite a while, but it is bound finally
to happen. Anybody who is firmly rooted in daily life, and
who can only faintly imagine the mystic secrets of nature,
will naturally be extremely modest about the universe.
The clerics, however, who have not caught a breath of
such modesty, evidence a sovereign opinionated attitude
toward questions of the universe....
1924 Hitler: "today these sky-pilots [i.e. members of the clergy]...
force their drivel on the world."
Hitler, Adolf. _Mein Kampf_ at
http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html
Only after the enslavement of subjected races did the
same fate strike beasts, and not the other way around, as
some people would like to think. For first the conquered
warrior drew the plow-and only after him the horse. Only
pacifistic fools can regard this as a sign of human
depravity, failing to realize that this development had to
take place in order to reach the point where today these
sky-pilots [i.e. members of the clergy, judging by the
Goebbels diaries' use of the phrase] could force their
drivel on the world.
The progress of humanity is like climbing an endless
ladder....
Hitler was an adherent of atheism.
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129143372.689763.127020%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
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