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24 Apr 2007 02:00:01 PM |
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Re: (C&C WARNING)Re: Harry Potter Is A Symptom Of Western Civilisation's Slide Back Into Paganism |
On Apr 23, 3:56 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:53:28 GMT, (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
The pagans started Classical civilization, and a fine thing it
was too.
Western civilization, however, came later and was started by
Christians.
Actually by the Celts. They were civilized long before Christians
started going west.
Who are these 'Celts'? That word is used with so many different
meanings by so many diferent people that it is meaningless unless you
choose to explain how you're using it.
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| User: "Mike Stone" |
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| Title: Re: (C&C WARNING)Re: Harry Potter Is A Symptom Of Western Civilisation's Slide Back Into Paganism |
24 Apr 2007 03:10:46 PM |
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On Apr 23, 3:56 am, Al Klein
<ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:53:28 GMT,
djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
The pagans started Classical
civilization, and a fine thing it
was too.
Western civilization, however, came
later and was started by
Christians.
Actually by the Celts. They were
civilized long before Christians
started going west.
Who are these 'Celts'? That word is used
with so many different
meanings by so many diferent people that
it is meaningless unless you
choose to explain how you're using it.
Well, he's been talking about the Celts
preserving civilisation after the fall of
the Western Empire. I take this to be a
reference to the Irish monks who kept quite
a bit of scholarship going in the 6th and
7th Centuries. But of course they _were_
Christian, so I don't know how it ties in
with the remark quoted above.
If he's saying that _Pagan_ Celts (Irish or
other) in some way kept civilisation going,
then I'm at a complete loss as to the
context and which particular ones they would
have been.
--
Mike Stone - Peterborough, England
I can never understand how people fail to
grasp the need for ethnic diversity.
After all, how could we English ever truly
appreciate our own superiority, if there
were no foreigners around for us to be
superior to?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: (C&C WARNING)Re: Harry Potter Is A Symptom Of Western Civilisation's Slide Back Into Paganism |
24 Apr 2007 10:10:44 PM |
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On 24 Apr 2007 12:00:01 -0700, wrote:
Who are these 'Celts'? That word is used with so many different
meanings by so many diferent people that it is meaningless unless you
choose to explain how you're using it.
People whose language is (or was) one of the Celtic languages, Breton,
Cornish, Irish, Manx, Scottish Gaelic and Welsh.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: (C&C WARNING)Re: Harry Potter Is A Symptom Of Western Civilisation's Slide Back Into Paganism |
28 Apr 2007 08:46:39 AM |
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On Apr 25, 5:10 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 24 Apr 2007 12:00:01 -0700, wrote:
Who are these 'Celts'? That word is used with so many different
meanings by so many diferent people that it is meaningless unless you
choose to explain how you're using it.
People whose language is (or was) one of the Celtic languages, Breton,
Cornish, Irish, Manx, Scottish Gaelic and Welsh.
You're limiting your definition of Celtic only to those languages, and
excluding speakers of other languages of the Celtic groups like
Gaulish?
That would be a pretty bizarre use of _Celtic_ since the term derives
from Latin _Celtae_, used by Gaius Iulius Caesar for the people
between the rivers Seine and Garonne in France (De Bello Gallico,
1:1), where Gaulish was spoken.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: (C&C WARNING)Re: Harry Potter Is A Symptom Of Western Civilisation's Slide Back Into Paganism |
28 Apr 2007 01:52:04 PM |
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On 28 Apr 2007 06:46:39 -0700, wrote:
On Apr 25, 5:10 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 24 Apr 2007 12:00:01 -0700, wrote:
Who are these 'Celts'? That word is used with so many different
meanings by so many diferent people that it is meaningless unless you
choose to explain how you're using it.
People whose language is (or was) one of the Celtic languages, Breton,
Cornish, Irish, Manx, Scottish Gaelic and Welsh.
You're limiting your definition of Celtic only to those languages, and
excluding speakers of other languages of the Celtic groups like
Gaulish?
That's one of the Continental Celtic languages. The people to whom I
was referring were those living in the British Isles.
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