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Re: Christians Really *ARE* Nazis (was Re: The really remarkable thing about the definition of intolerant is that those who say we Christians are intolerant and should not express our religious beliefs are the ones who actually fit the definition. |
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
John W
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17 Sep 2003 03:32:30 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Uh, you have that backwards, everyone we don't like usually calls THEMSELVES
a Christian. We just give them the benefit of the doubt.
Since you couldn't point out an error in Budikka's post, I have to assume
you agree with it.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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18 Sep 2003 04:17:53 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:32:30 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Uh, you have that backwards, everyone we don't like usually calls THEMSELVES
a Christian. We just give them the benefit of the doubt.
Since you couldn't point out an error in Budikka's post, I have to assume
you agree with it.
Assume what you wish. I normally don't comment on things that make no
impression.
Particularly when my one thought is "Good grief!"
John W
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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18 Sep 2003 06:09:39 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual
accusations to deny that you felt you needed to invent a
phony persecution to bemoan. Are people supposed to be
impressed with the casual disdain with which you violate
Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfullness, gentleness, self control...
-- Galatians 5:22-23
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18 Sep 2003 06:20:00 PM |
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(Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
--
Tiger
"Zero is where the fun starts
There is too much counting everywhere else."
- Hafiz
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20 Sep 2003 10:26:59 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
"Judge not..."
John W
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21 Sep 2003 02:10:51 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<q87qmv8mu5o6i9p42f7h392cj9a2o0fjt4@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
"Judge not..."
Does that mean you are going to stop judging the Roman
Catholic church?
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18 Sep 2003 07:23:00 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard,
which merely points out that man cannot save himself. We are ALL
dependent upon God's Love and Forgiveness, which too many puny humans,
like those in this group, don't understand..
John W
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19 Sep 2003 09:42:54 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<dojkmvc5m50rm650ba0ksp2b61ubqhrlrv@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard,
So what is the point of even trying to maintain it, you
mean? The only thing impossible about it is 100% compliance.
But I think you are supposed to make the effort--which is
what I said ("make an _attempt_at practicing them...")
which merely points out that man cannot save himself.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of
my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that
day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in
thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never
knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore
whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house
upon a rock... -- Matthew 7:21-24
We are ALL
dependent upon God's Love and Forgiveness, which too many puny humans,
like those in this group, don't understand..
The question is:
Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"
-- Luke 6:46
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19 Sep 2003 12:38:32 PM |
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On 19 Sep 2003 00:23:00 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard,
which merely points out that man cannot save himself. We are ALL
dependent upon God's Love and Forgiveness, which too many puny humans,
Many Christians claim that atheists lead immoral lives, because they
do not have the support of Jesus. Now you say that Christians also
lead immoral lives, because, even with the support of Jesus, it is not
possible to do otherwise. Very strange!
Thomas P.
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19 Sep 2003 03:09:51 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:38:32 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On 19 Sep 2003 00:23:00 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian
who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an
attempt at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so
even in the face of adversity or hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard, which
merely points out that man cannot save himself. We are ALL dependent upon
God's Love and Forgiveness, which too many puny humans,
Many Christians claim that atheists lead immoral lives, because they do
not have the support of Jesus. Now you say that Christians also lead
immoral lives, because, even with the support of Jesus, it is not possible
to do otherwise. Very strange!
Okay, lemme get this straight.
We need more Jeebus because of "immorality." But getting Jeebus doesn't
stop us being "immoral."
So we can't stop ourselves and Jeebus can't stop us but we need an
impossible standard so we can fail but that's going to somehow deal with
the problems of life today...
No, wait... it's...
I'm getting a headache...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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19 Sep 2003 06:04:46 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:09:51 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:38:32 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On 19 Sep 2003 00:23:00 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian
who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an
attempt at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so
even in the face of adversity or hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard, which
merely points out that man cannot save himself. We are ALL dependent upon
God's Love and Forgiveness, which too many puny humans,
Many Christians claim that atheists lead immoral lives, because they do
not have the support of Jesus. Now you say that Christians also lead
immoral lives, because, even with the support of Jesus, it is not possible
to do otherwise. Very strange!
Okay, lemme get this straight.
We need more Jeebus because of "immorality." But getting Jeebus doesn't
stop us being "immoral."
So we can't stop ourselves and Jeebus can't stop us but we need an
impossible standard so we can fail but that's going to somehow deal with
the problems of life today...
No, wait... it's...
I'm getting a headache...
Not having to worry about being consistent or coherent are two of the
biggest advantages of being Christian.
Thomas P.
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18 Sep 2003 09:26:01 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:23:00 +0000, John W wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:20:00 GMT, Tiger <jef@yahoo.com> wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote in
news:1902ce50.0309181509.2e801855@posting.google.com:
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian
who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an
attempt at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so
even in the face of adversity or hostility.
That would be impressive.
And Christians know that Jesus and Paul set an IMPOSSIBLE standard, which
....makes them evil.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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18 Sep 2003 07:20:24 PM |
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On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual
accusations to deny that you felt you needed to invent a
phony persecution to bemoan. Are people supposed to be
impressed with the casual disdain with which you violate
Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfullness, gentleness, self control...
-- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it. It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
John W
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19 Sep 2003 09:26:29 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<7kjkmv88v1bdo3f3ma4f2lg6jk3vtp4sp5@4ax.com>...
On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual
accusations to deny that you felt you needed to invent a
phony persecution to bemoan. Are people supposed to be
impressed with the casual disdain with which you violate
Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfullness, gentleness, self control...
-- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it.
The point was that you behave as if you do not.
It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
I don't see the fruit of the Spirit here. Do you?
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
-- Matthew 7:20
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20 Sep 2003 10:29:25 PM |
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On 19 Sep 2003 07:26:29 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<7kjkmv88v1bdo3f3ma4f2lg6jk3vtp4sp5@4ax.com>...
On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose to
stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us for
believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual
accusations to deny that you felt you needed to invent a
phony persecution to bemoan. Are people supposed to be
impressed with the casual disdain with which you violate
Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a
Christian who seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously
enough to make an attempt at practicing them (beginning with
the Golden Rule) and did so even in the face of adversity or
hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfullness, gentleness, self control...
-- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it.
The point was that you behave as if you do not.
If you judge EVERYONE's behavior merely by how you perceive them in
here, you live in a TINY world in which you aren't qualified to judge
ANYONE.
And Christianity isn't for the perfect; it's for we who admit we need
Help.
John W
It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
I don't see the fruit of the Spirit here. Do you?
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
-- Matthew 7:20
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On 21 Sep 2003 03:29:25 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
begged for attention in
alt.atheism,alt.religion.afterlife,alt.religion.angels,alt.religion.apologetics,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christian.baptist:
If you judge EVERYONE's behavior merely by how you perceive them in
here, you live in a TINY world in which you aren't qualified to judge
ANYONE.
You live in a tiny world, don't you, Johnny? You and your bap-pissed
circle jerkers. Cumming for the LOARD©!
And Christianity isn't for the perfect;
It is for the humble of mind. Suits you like a tight condom.
t's for we who admit we need Help.
Praise be the Help!
^^^^ no need to worship help.
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose
to stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us
for believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual accusations to deny
that you felt you needed to invent a phony persecution to bemoan. Are
people supposed to be impressed with the casual disdain with which you
violate Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian who
seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an attempt
at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so even in
the face of adversity or hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfullness, gentleness, self control... -- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it. It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
And Johnny ducks *again!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:25:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose
to stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us
for believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual accusations to deny
that you felt you needed to invent a phony persecution to bemoan. Are
people supposed to be impressed with the casual disdain with which you
violate Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian who
seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an attempt
at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so even in
the face of adversity or hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfullness, gentleness, self control... -- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it. It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
And Johnny ducks *again!
Ditto.
John W
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20 Sep 2003 10:27:18 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:25:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
ignored.
John W
On 18 Sep 2003 16:09:39 -0700, (Del) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<gkdhmv4bhcl716cnodek6etbk5ikem9ak7@4ax.com>...
On 23 Mar 2003 19:27:35 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote
news:<4mdq7vs8sbn0812r9635oo7masbt2rk041@4ax.com>...
Yep. Forget the hospitals and universities we've built all over the
world. Forget the hundreds of Christian missionaries risking their
lives in real time in the Middle East right now because they choose
to stay there and serve God.
Forget all the good we'v done and continue to do and just hate us
for believing in and striving to honor God. Some of us fight for our
country; some of us join the Red Cross.
Quit blaming we who built America.
John W
"we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little
faith in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?
Budikka
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians"
Interesting that you can't find enough in the actual accusations to deny
that you felt you needed to invent a phony persecution to bemoan. Are
people supposed to be impressed with the casual disdain with which you
violate Commandment 9?
Speaking just for myself, what would impress me would be a Christian who
seemed to take the teachings of Jesus seriously enough to make an attempt
at practicing them (beginning with the Golden Rule) and did so even in
the face of adversity or hostility.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfullness, gentleness, self control... -- Galatians 5:22-23
Gee, Mr. Perfect, you quote it as if you believed it. It's such a sham
when people who don't believe the Bible quote it.
And Johnny ducks *again!
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21 Sep 2003 10:23:41 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:27:18 +0000, John W wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:25:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
ignored.
After you replied no less!
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23 Sep 2003 02:49:18 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.22.03.23.41.469469@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:27:18 +0000, John W wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:25:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
ignored.
After you replied no less!
It's not enough to just ignore someone; you have to let them know
they're being ignored, or their feelings won't be hurt enough. Or so
johnie-boy seems to think.
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:49:18 -0500, William Klee wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.22.03.23.41.469469@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:27:18 +0000, John W wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:25:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:20:24 +0000, John W wrote:
ignored.
After you replied no less!
It's not enough to just ignore someone; you have to let them know
they're being ignored, or their feelings won't be hurt enough. Or so
johnie-boy seems to think.
Personally, I think Johnny just has a crush on us...
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17 Sep 2003 03:59:24 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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18 Sep 2003 09:56:52 AM |
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In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll for
pornography ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:56:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan
says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone you
don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll for
pornography ;)
<blink>
You say that like it's a bad thing...
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:56:52 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll for
pornography ;)
Whom do you intend to amuse while you "amuse yourself?" Me? LOL!
Anybody ELSE in the baptist group? LOL!
O L D News. Which merely proves that you enjoy digging around in pig
stie poop.
John W
Robyn
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In article <909kmvclgriqh93ainur2kh6s8s7f1au47@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:56:52 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll for
pornography ;)
Whom do you intend to amuse while you "amuse yourself?" Me? LOL!
Anybody ELSE in the baptist group? LOL!
Well, at the moment I'm currently proving that you're a liar and/or have
absolutely NO self control as you are unable to stop yourself from replying to
my posts - despite the fact that you have stated that you were no longer going
to do so. You might want to pray to your god for some strength.
O L D News. Which merely proves that you enjoy digging around in pig
stie poop.
Yes, I do agree that your posts are "pig stie poop". BTW, it's "sty".
All you have to do is stop replying - That or remove alt.atheism from the
headers. They're both extremely simple concepts, but they appear to be beyond
your comprehension. Care to try to prove me wrong?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:53:56 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <909kmvclgriqh93ainur2kh6s8s7f1au47@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:56:52 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan
says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll
for pornography ;)
Whom do you intend to amuse while you "amuse yourself?" Me? LOL! Anybody
ELSE in the baptist group? LOL!
Well, at the moment I'm currently proving that you're a liar and/or have
absolutely NO self control as you are unable to stop yourself from
replying to my posts - despite the fact that you have stated that you were
no longer going to do so. You might want to pray to your god for some
strength.
O L D News. Which merely proves that you enjoy digging around in pig stie
poop.
Yes, I do agree that your posts are "pig stie poop". BTW, it's "sty".
All you have to do is stop replying - That or remove alt.atheism from the
headers. They're both extremely simple concepts, but they appear to be
beyond your comprehension. Care to try to prove me wrong?
Yes, let him "shake the dust off" and all and get the hell out if he
doesn't like our piggy behavior!
<oink!>
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:53:56 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
Ignored.
John W
In article <909kmvclgriqh93ainur2kh6s8s7f1au47@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:56:52 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <5oihmvcnhalf86lq6o6tt9si32v5q0jde6@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Again, the shortest step/hop to resolving the world's problems is to
blame EVERYTHING on the "Christians". Also be sure to call everyone
you don't like "a Christian."
Yeah really. Blame should instead be placed on demons.
Indeed, as well as people who sneak in and use your computer to troll for
pornography ;)
Whom do you intend to amuse while you "amuse yourself?" Me? LOL!
Anybody ELSE in the baptist group? LOL!
Well, at the moment I'm currently proving that you're a liar and/or have
absolutely NO self control as you are unable to stop yourself from replying to
my posts - despite the fact that you have stated that you were no longer going
to do so. You might want to pray to your god for some strength.
O L D News. Which merely proves that you enjoy digging around in pig
stie poop.
Yes, I do agree that your posts are "pig stie poop". BTW, it's "sty".
All you have to do is stop replying - That or remove alt.atheism from the
headers. They're both extremely simple concepts, but they appear to be beyond
your comprehension. Care to try to prove me wrong?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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In article <d37qmvgr569a0tbngjf5895ljk43nlgjbr@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:53:56 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
Ignored.
John W
LOL, guess you couldn't do it, huh?
How pathetic.
snippage
Well, at the moment I'm currently proving that you're a liar and/or have
absolutely NO self control as you are unable to stop yourself from replying to
my posts - despite the fact that you have stated that you were no longer going
to do so. You might want to pray to your god for some strength.
O L D News. Which merely proves that you enjoy digging around in pig
stie poop.
Yes, I do agree that your posts are "pig stie poop". BTW, it's "sty".
All you have to do is stop replying - That or remove alt.atheism from the
headers. They're both extremely simple concepts, but they appear to be beyond
your comprehension. Care to try to prove me wrong?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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