(K C) wrote:
:|On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:53:09 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
:|>> So, since there has never been a time when the government has been
:|>> seperate [sic] from religion (general religion),
:|>
:|>There has never been a time when our government has been a religious
:|>government.
:|
:|I think it is clear that on some level it has always been.
You do realize that a religious government is a theocracy, don't you?
Now, it is true that at one time, perhaps, one or more of the New England
colonies might have qualified as a semi theocracy or a full fledged
theocracy, but that ended long before the Rev War, etc.
:|That is
:|what I just said,
What you said is irrelevant, what have you proved?
:|or weren't you listening again. When they use
:|bibles,
Not required. You tend to over look that fact. It is a very important fact.
Thus one of your props isn't really able to help you any.
:|use chaplains,
Now, here you have a better argument, and the USSC did a lousy job in its
previous ruling on this matter, however, it is being challenged once again
in the courts.
:|have monuments with religious words,
Who has them.
The government? Really, where?
You also seem to overlook the rulings that have required removal of many of
these items when that are clearly religious in nature.
:|have In
:|God We Trust as the National motto,
That too is being challenged and was not done by those who founded this
nation, but instead was done during a very conservative and fear based time
period of the 50s
:|and such. It is being religious.
LOL
This disagrees with you:
A Simple Test
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/simptest.htm
:|What you want them to do is STOP being religious.
It is called upholding the Constitution. In spite of your personal wants
and beliefs, church state separation is a constitutional principle.
:|Isn't that why
:|people are suing in court to try to remove such things?
To uphold the law, yes.
:|In fact, for you to say that shows me you are not interested in
:|finding facts but covering facts for your own point-of-view,
There you go again, projecting yourself onto others again.
:|so I
:|won't waste my time discussing something with someone with a made up
:|mind and ignorant, by choice, of facts.
Facts, son you wouldn't know a fact if it punched you in the mouth.
:|KC (author) internet nut case, and troll
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