Religions > Atheism > Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy
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" \- Prof. Jonez©" |
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12 Mar 2005 10:17:14 PM |
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Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
Scratch wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
Sam Bam wrote:
grandwazoo wrote:
Hmmm, so Jesus say it's ok to kill
Cite!
Fenris 6:66:
The definition is simple (sort of like you). If god, or the state
tell me to do it, its killing. If I decide on my own, then its
murder.
Lev 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall
surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly
stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land,
when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
Josh 1:18 Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment,
and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest
him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.
2 Chr 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel
should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or
woman. Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the
sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the
sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Pssst..., There is a lot more to this in the old testament then most
people wold know so you might just want to quote from the New
testament to get the name of Jesus not the old.
So where in the New Testament are these so called Ten Commandments
the bauble thumpin' christers are clamoring about?
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that
says ALL the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament
can be ignored and disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
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12 Mar 2005 10:43:51 PM |
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"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
Scratch wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
Sam Bam wrote:
grandwazoo wrote:
Hmmm, so Jesus say it's ok to kill
Cite!
Fenris 6:66:
The definition is simple (sort of like you). If god, or the state
tell me to do it, its killing. If I decide on my own, then its
murder.
Lev 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall
surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly
stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land,
when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
Josh 1:18 Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment,
and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest
him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.
2 Chr 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel
should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or
woman. Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the
sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the
sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Pssst..., There is a lot more to this in the old testament then most
people wold know so you might just want to quote from the New
testament to get the name of Jesus not the old.
So where in the New Testament are these so called Ten Commandments
the bauble thumpin' christers are clamoring about?
Try starting at Exodus 20:1 go from there
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that
says ALL the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament
can be ignored and disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 01:06:32 AM |
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Scratch <Little-time@few_years.com> wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
[..]
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that says ALL
the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament can be ignored and
disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
What, exactly, does Jesus mean by 'it is accomplished,' in this context?
Is he referring to the 'all' that will be fulfilled?
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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13 Mar 2005 02:23:58 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
Scratch <Little-time@few_years.com> wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
[..]
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that says ALL
the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament can be ignored and
disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
What, exactly, does Jesus mean by 'it is accomplished,' in this context?
Is he referring to the 'all' that will be fulfilled?
I could not find that in the Reader Digest Bible with illustrations.
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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13 Mar 2005 02:49:25 AM |
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grandwazoo <grand@nospam.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Scratch <Little-time@few_years.com> wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
[..]
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that says
ALL the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament can be
ignored and disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
What, exactly, does Jesus mean by 'it is accomplished,' in this context?
Is he referring to the 'all' that will be fulfilled?
I could not find that in the Reader Digest Bible with illustrations.
Maye Scratch will fare better. One hopes.
But I love that bit about jots and tittles. Reminds me of 'Baron
Munchausen.'
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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13 Mar 2005 03:08:55 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
grandwazoo <grand@nospam.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Scratch <Little-time@few_years.com> wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
[..]
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that says
ALL the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament can be
ignored and disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
What, exactly, does Jesus mean by 'it is accomplished,' in this context?
Is he referring to the 'all' that will be fulfilled?
I could not find that in the Reader Digest Bible with illustrations.
Maye Scratch will fare better. One hopes.
But I love that bit about jots and tittles. Reminds me of 'Baron
Munchausen.'
Made me think of Titties n' Beer.
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13 Mar 2005 07:13:22 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
Scratch <Little-time@few_years.com> wrote:
"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
[..]
And please cite the Chapter and Verse in the New Testament that says
ALL the laws, commandments and rules of the Old Testament can be
ignored and disobeyed at will.
Go ahead, post your citation here:
I Can't do it. Doesn't say that in the New testament
Matt 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
KJV
What, exactly, does Jesus mean by 'it is accomplished,' in this context?
Is he referring to the 'all' that will be fulfilled?
The end of the world (Matthew 24:3) and judgment day
itself (Matthew 16:27-8, Matthew 25:31-45) Matthew 24, Luke 21,
Mark 13 are parallel chapters laying out the end times as Jesus
prophecies the coming end which is to occue in "this generation"
(Matthew 24:36, Luke 21, Mark 13) in the lifetimes of "Some
standing here" (Matthew 16:27-8, Mark 9:1), in the time
of the high priest at Jerusaelm (Matthew 24:30 Matthew 26:64,
Mark 14:62)
Note Mathew 24, Mark 13. Luke 21, the sun and moon are to fail,
the stars will fall from the skies and other similar things.
This is the heaven and earth pass away reference of 5:18.
Matthew 25:31-45 shows the new order that will take place
after the earth and heavens as we know it pass away.
If you read this sermon the mount, Matthew 5 - 7, the
end of the world real soon aspect of his teachings are very
plain and obvious. Abandon all wealth and other encumbrances
and being prepared for the imminent end is the message here.
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
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Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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13 Mar 2005 08:19:06 AM |
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wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Scratch" |
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13 Mar 2005 09:12:01 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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13 Mar 2005 10:48:40 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism is
where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through your
government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 01:44:01 AM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism is
where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through your
government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
"It's hot"
"It's . . . It's"
"It's hot"
"It's"
"It's"
"I mean that"
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13 Mar 2005 12:05:38 PM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism is
where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through your
government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that the
governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other important
ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise substantial
control over sectors of the economy that impact large portions of the
population and maintain significant wealth and income redistribution
programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky.
We have branches across the country that organize activists in
workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO believes
that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine, environmental
catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles big and small, the
ISO aims to build with others a society where we all have control over
our lives. We believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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13 Mar 2005 11:18:27 PM |
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Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through
your government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise
substantial control over sectors of the economy that impact large
portions of the population and maintain significant wealth and income
redistribution programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky.
We have branches across the country that organize activists in
workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO
believes that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine,
environmental catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles
big and small, the ISO aims to build with others a society where we
all have control over our lives. We believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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13 Mar 2005 11:28:39 PM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through
your government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise
substantial control over sectors of the economy that impact large
portions of the population and maintain significant wealth and income
redistribution programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky.
We have branches across the country that organize activists in
workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO
believes that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine,
environmental catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles
big and small, the ISO aims to build with others a society where we
all have control over our lives. We believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
So you have the guts to admit your a socialist unlike so many liberals
here in this newsgroup? Hell I don't have a problem admitting I'm a
Conservative Republican.
Pretty easy to spot by their posts anyway.
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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14 Mar 2005 08:55:00 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through
your government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and
equal socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise
substantial control over sectors of the economy that impact large
portions of the population and maintain significant wealth and
income redistribution programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon
Trotsky. We have branches across the country that organize activists
in workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO
believes that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine,
environmental catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles
big and small, the ISO aims to build with others a society where we
all have control over our lives. We believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
So you have the guts to admit your a socialist unlike so many liberals
here in this newsgroup? Hell I don't have a problem admitting I'm a
Conservative Republican.
Pretty easy to spot by their posts anyway.
It is apparent that you are a reactionary. I, on the other hand, am not
a socialist. I just happen to know the meaning of the word. I consider
myself a progressive. Social Security is a progressively based program.
It isn't socialist. I wonder if you can tell me why?
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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| User: "Scratch" |
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14 Mar 2005 09:54:19 AM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through
your government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and
equal socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise
substantial control over sectors of the economy that impact large
portions of the population and maintain significant wealth and
income redistribution programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon
Trotsky. We have branches across the country that organize activists
in workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO
believes that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine,
environmental catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles
big and small, the ISO aims to build with others a society where we
all have control over our lives. We believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
So you have the guts to admit your a socialist unlike so many liberals
here in this newsgroup? Hell I don't have a problem admitting I'm a
Conservative Republican.
Pretty easy to spot by their posts anyway.
It is apparent that you are a reactionary. I, on the other hand, am not
a socialist. I just happen to know the meaning of the word. I consider
myself a progressive. Social Security is a progressively based program.
It isn't socialist. I wonder if you can tell me why?
Then your in denial and yes SS is a socialist style program. You say you
are a progressive? Do a google search on Progressive, and Progressive
Democrats and add the word socialist to it see what you come up with.
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 05:05:01 PM |
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Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly.
Socialism is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself
equally through your government. Mooching off other people is
called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion
that the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair
and equal socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and
other important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or
exercise substantial control over sectors of the economy that
impact large portions of the population and maintain significant
wealth and income redistribution programs.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon
Trotsky. We have branches across the country that organize
activists in workplaces and communities and on campuses in order
to mobilize opposition to all forms of oppression and
exploitation. The ISO believes that capitalism produces poverty,
racism, famine, environmental catastrophe and war. By getting
involved in struggles big and small, the ISO aims to build with
others a society where we all have control over our lives. We
believe another world is possible.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
So you have the guts to admit your a socialist unlike so many
liberals here in this newsgroup? Hell I don't have a problem
admitting I'm a Conservative Republican.
Pretty easy to spot by their posts anyway.
It is apparent that you are a reactionary. I, on the other hand, am
not a socialist. I just happen to know the meaning of the word. I
consider myself a progressive. Social Security is a progressively
based program. It isn't socialist. I wonder if you can tell me why?
Then your in denial
Denial? Why would anybody want to deny being a socialist if that is,
indeed, what they are? It just so happens that I do not subscribe to
socialistic philosophy. I believe in regulated capitalism when it comes
to economic systems. That is what being a progressive is partly about.
and yes SS is a socialist style program.
See? I thought so. You can't tell me why Social Security is a
progressive program as opposed to a socialist program.
Socialism is an economic theory, not a theory of government. You can
have a socialist economy and a fascist government like Stalin era Soviet
Union, or you can have a democratic government and a socialist (leaning)
economy like much of Western Europe. The form that the government takes
has nothing to do with the form of economic system that the government
practices.
You say you are a progressive? Do a google search on Progressive, and
Progressive Democrats and add the word socialist to it see what you
come up with.
Many sites. My favorite was this one:
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/trashingamerica/progressive.html . It
seems that a requirement for being a right winger is to be ignorant of
political science terminology.
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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| User: "Sam Bam" |
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14 Mar 2005 10:30:24 AM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
I consider
myself a progressive.
MBWHAHAHAHAHA!!
Code word for fucking liberal neo-socialist WONK!
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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14 Mar 2005 11:27:31 AM |
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"Sam Bam" <sam@bam.slam> wrote in message
news:A_iZd.5110366$f47.925910@news.easynews.com...
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
I consider myself a progressive.
MBWHAHAHAHAHA!!
Code word for fucking liberal neo-socialist WONK!
You don't need code for a nice word like 'fucking'. You got something
against fucking? And, you do not need to be neo-, socialist is still a
functional definition. Liberal is a contextual term, in this country liberal
as opposed to conservative are the foundation, the core values and the
instigators for change that have made a good life for you. But, in your
ignorance, you buy into this simple minded name calling, instead of
recognizing the value and achievements of the "loyal opposition". Have some
respect and quite pushing this incitement of emotions of those who can't
discriminate the subtle difference. Otherwise, enough of the uneducated will
put through the changes of turning back all things considered socialist and
along with it a different and impoverished third world America. Good
fucking, to you.
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| User: "Sam Bam" |
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14 Mar 2005 11:39:33 AM |
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grandwazoo wrote:
But, in your
ignorance, you buy into this simple minded name calling, instead of
recognizing the value and achievements of the "loyal opposition".
Nope, there has to be a dynamic 2 party tension.
Yet it is the liberal end of the spectrum which has grossly overextended
its rhetoric and beliefs to the detriment of our nation at this stage of
the game.
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 07:04:14 PM |
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Sam Bam wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
I consider myself a progressive.
MBWHAHAHAHAHA!!
Code word for fucking liberal neo-socialist WONK!
I know that you have wondered why I ignore you Oinkle. It is because if
I wanted to associate with dog *****, I'd just step out into my backyard
where I can meet the real thing. As a matter of fact, during one of more
frequent duties of clean-up, I discovered that that duty was far more
preferable than having to associate with the likes of you. You stink up
the room, Oinkle, and unlike dog ***** you don't contribute anything good
or useful at all. At least dog ***** provides a little nutrients for the
lawn.
Please, do us all a favor. EVOLVE!
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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| User: "Sam Bam" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 07:08:22 PM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Sam Bam wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
I consider myself a progressive.
MBWHAHAHAHAHA!!
Code word for fucking liberal neo-socialist WONK!
I know that you have wondered why I ignore you Oinkle.
Nah, after being defeated as many times as you have it was no wonderment
at all Mikey.
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 01:47:15 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through
your government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways. Socialistic governments generally own or exercise
substantial control over sectors of the economy that impact large
portions of the population and maintain significant wealth and income
redistribution programs.
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The International Socialist Organization (ISO) stands in the
revolutionary tradition of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Leon
Trotsky. We have branches across the country that organize activists
in workplaces and communities and on campuses in order to mobilize
opposition to all forms of oppression and exploitation. The ISO
believes that capitalism produces poverty, racism, famine,
environmental catastrophe and war. By getting involved in struggles
big and small, the ISO aims to build with others a society where we
all have control over our lives. We believe another world is possible.
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http://www.mondopolitico.com/ideologies/redsquare/redsquare.htm
Right. That's what I said, but with way fewer words.
So you have the guts to admit your a socialist unlike so many liberals
here in this newsgroup? Hell I don't have a problem admitting I'm a
Conservative Republican.
Pretty easy to spot by their posts anyway.
Hey! You! You in back... Duh, he agreed with the definition and you jump
to he's a socialist.
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| User: " \- Prof. Jonez©" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 03:25:57 PM |
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Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through your
government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways.
Oh the Horror!
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
14 Mar 2005 07:12:21 PM |
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"- Prof. Jonez©" wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
I do wish you righties would us the terminology properly. Socialism
is where you assist your fellow man, and yourself equally through your
government. Mooching off other people is called evangelism.
socialism Philosophy and form of government based on the notion that
the governmental authority ought to be used to promote fair and equal
socioeconomic outcomes in terms of education, wealth and other
important ways.
Oh the Horror!
Finally! Something we both agree on
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 09:29:30 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen
very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything,
sell it and feed these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
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Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 10:10:27 AM |
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wcb wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen
very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything,
sell it and feed these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
You know how to read the words. To bad you don't have comprehension.
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| User: "Michael R. McAfee" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 10:52:50 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
wcb wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything, sell it and feed
these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
You know how to read the words. To bad you don't have comprehension.
I'm still interested in knowing why the Bible traces Joseph's linage and
not Mary's.
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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 12:15:48 PM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
wcb wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything, sell it and feed
these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
You know how to read the words. To bad you don't have comprehension.
I'm still interested in knowing why the Bible traces Joseph's linage and
not Mary's.
Then dare pick the good book up and study. Perhaps the Complete works of
Josephus and the Apocrypha by Edgar J. Goodspeed Sept 1989 Edition. You
will find the answer instead of from someone you do not know on a Usenet
group.
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 03:36:39 PM |
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Michael R. McAfee wrote:
Scratch wrote:
wcb wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything, sell it and feed
these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
You know how to read the words. To bad you don't have comprehension.
I'm still interested in knowing why the Bible traces Joseph's linage and
not Mary's.
Messianic Jews ofthat day and age rejected jesus as being the
Messiah because he was a known Galilean and no decendent of
David. According to them, he had to be a descentednt of
David to be considered. So Luke and Matthew obliged them
with made up geneologies.
Both contradictory and because they forgot that detail that
Jesus was not he biological son of Joseph, he still wan't a
descendent of David despite the lies.
Or in short, the guys that wrote these lies were not very
smart goofballs.
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Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Church and State Need Not be Seperate, Quote the Bugboy |
13 Mar 2005 10:37:02 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
wcb wrote:
Scratch wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Take no though for the morrow what you will eat or drink
or wear is bad economics, great strategy for facing
the immediate end of all creation.
And for mooching off other people.
Yeah, called socialism :)
Ermmm, no. This is not an economic system
Jesus is championing. He is saying only the poor
go to heaven and judgment day is going to happen
very soon.
Its more religous nihilism.
Only one thing matters. Passing judgement
when the stars fall, the light of the sun and moon
fails and the world ends. (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark
16).
Make do until the end, and if you own anything,
sell it and feed these waiting hordes who no longer
have anything.
Its not much of a system.
You know how to read the words. To bad you don't have comprehension.
I have comprehension.
Obviously, you do not.
Nor seemimngly have you read the words.
Its all quite plain when you start to see the
basic claims being made and the driving logic
beneath them.
The world is ending soon. (Matthew 24:3)
Judgment day is upon us. (Matthew 16:27-8,
Matthew 25:31-45 and others)
Wealth is a stumbling block to eternal life.
Matthew 19:16-22, Luke 18;18-25, Mark 10:17-25 and others.
Thus get rid of all wealth, and anything else that may cost
you eternal life.
Luke 12:32-4, Luke 14:33 and others.
and you will be rewarded 100 fold in future life
for what you give up now to gain future eternal
life.
Its not an economic system at all, but a path to
eternal life and future wealth in the new heavenly
order that is coming, very, very soon.
This is the obvious and literal and very open message of
Jesus. It really doesn't take much to see what he teaches
and claims.
Really, you might try reading the gospels one day.
--
Cheerful Charlie
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