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28 Jan 2007 05:35:28 PM |
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Re: Church Government |
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in Heaven
On Jan 28, 12:15 pm, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"BAM" <> wrote in message ...
Church Government
In Mat 16:13 Jesus asks "Whom do men say the that the Son of Man is?" This
would be the democratic approach.
I am?". How did the "aristocracy" respond? They had no answer either. Only
one man had the answer - Peter - who was to become the sole head of Jesus'
Church. "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.", said Peter alone.
And Jesus replied, "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and
blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. And I
say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my
church,
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."And Jesus made a word play on Peter's name!!
Jesus asked who he was.
And Peter replied "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
Now what did Peter get from this statement.
Well look at what Peter actually said.
1 Peter 2: 5 and 6 -
you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a
holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through
Jesus Christ. 6For in Scripture it says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame."
Peter here acknowledges scripture in that he quotes Isaiah 28: 16 - So this
is what the Sovereign LORD says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who trusts will never be dismayed.
Peter knew who the foundation was!!
He even told you - "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
That is the foundation of the church. Peter knew it and he tells us that he
knew it in his own espistle.
Jesus knew it also, and he made a word play, on Peter's name!!
No. Only one
man was chosen, and today that man is the Pope.Yes, Jesus also mentioned the pope in Matthew 16: 23 -
When he said - "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you
do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
What a perfect description of the pope.
pope meaning father, and Jesus said -
Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one
Father, and he is in heaven.
But what did Jesus say again about the pope??
"Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in
mind the things of God, but the things of men."
A thing of GOD!! Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for
you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
A thing of men - Call me pope, papa, Father.
Clear evidence that Jesus again would say to the pope, GET THEE BEHIND ME
SATAN!!
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Church Government |
28 Jan 2007 07:42:09 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in Heaven
But there is no Jesus god and there is no Heaven except in your deluded
imagination!
On Jan 28, 12:15 pm, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"BAM" <> wrote in message ...
Church Government
In Mat 16:13 Jesus asks "Whom do men say the that the Son of Man is?"
This
would be the democratic approach.
I am?". How did the "aristocracy" respond? They had no answer either.
Only
one man had the answer - Peter - who was to become the sole head of
Jesus'
Church. "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.", said Peter
alone.
And Jesus replied, "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and
blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. And
I
say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my
church,
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."And Jesus made a
word play on Peter's name!!
Jesus asked who he was.
And Peter replied "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
Now what did Peter get from this statement.
Well look at what Peter actually said.
1 Peter 2: 5 and 6 -
you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to
be a
holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through
Jesus Christ. 6For in Scripture it says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame."
Peter here acknowledges scripture in that he quotes Isaiah 28: 16 - So
this
is what the Sovereign LORD says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who trusts will never be dismayed.
Peter knew who the foundation was!!
He even told you - "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
That is the foundation of the church. Peter knew it and he tells us that
he
knew it in his own espistle.
Jesus knew it also, and he made a word play, on Peter's name!!
No. Only one
man was chosen, and today that man is the Pope.Yes, Jesus also
mentioned the pope in Matthew 16: 23 -
When he said - "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me;
you
do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
What a perfect description of the pope.
pope meaning father, and Jesus said -
Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one
Father, and he is in heaven.
But what did Jesus say again about the pope??
"Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have
in
mind the things of God, but the things of men."
A thing of GOD!! Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,'
for
you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
A thing of men - Call me pope, papa, Father.
Clear evidence that Jesus again would say to the pope, GET THEE BEHIND ME
SATAN!!
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Church Government |
28 Jan 2007 09:59:47 PM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in Heaven
But there is no Jesus god and there is no Heaven except in your deluded
imagination!
Prove it.
BAM
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Church Government |
28 Jan 2007 06:05:17 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in Heaven
Hence all the different sects and cults.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
On Jan 28, 12:15 pm, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"BAM" <> wrote in message ...
Church Government
In Mat 16:13 Jesus asks "Whom do men say the that the Son of Man is?"
This
would be the democratic approach.
I am?". How did the "aristocracy" respond? They had no answer either.
Only
one man had the answer - Peter - who was to become the sole head of
Jesus'
Church. "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.", said Peter
alone.
And Jesus replied, "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and
blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. And
I
say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my
church,
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."And Jesus made a
word play on Peter's name!!
Jesus asked who he was.
And Peter replied "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
Now what did Peter get from this statement.
Well look at what Peter actually said.
1 Peter 2: 5 and 6 -
you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to
be a
holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through
Jesus Christ. 6For in Scripture it says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame."
Peter here acknowledges scripture in that he quotes Isaiah 28: 16 - So
this
is what the Sovereign LORD says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who trusts will never be dismayed.
Peter knew who the foundation was!!
He even told you - "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.",
That is the foundation of the church. Peter knew it and he tells us that
he
knew it in his own espistle.
Jesus knew it also, and he made a word play, on Peter's name!!
No. Only one
man was chosen, and today that man is the Pope.Yes, Jesus also
mentioned the pope in Matthew 16: 23 -
When he said - "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me;
you
do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
What a perfect description of the pope.
pope meaning father, and Jesus said -
Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one
Father, and he is in heaven.
But what did Jesus say again about the pope??
"Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have
in
mind the things of God, but the things of men."
A thing of GOD!! Matthew 23: 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,'
for
you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
A thing of men - Call me pope, papa, Father.
Clear evidence that Jesus again would say to the pope, GET THEE BEHIND ME
SATAN!!
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| User: "BAM" |
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28 Jan 2007 09:59:27 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in Heaven
Then why did Jesus establish one? What about Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
BAM
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29 Jan 2007 02:55:17 PM |
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On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What about Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
What about them? What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
BAM
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| User: "BAM" |
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29 Jan 2007 08:01:04 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What about
Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
What a laugh. As if you have any idea what evidence is.
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
There's a little bit more to it than the two little snippets you put forth.
In fact this is about 1/10th of 1%.
What about them?
Leaders - appointed by God. We know that God appointed leaders. Get it?
What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Coming from a liar, your comments don't surpise me.
BAM
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30 Jan 2007 03:51:22 PM |
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BAM wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1170104117.028853.239710@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What about
Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
What a laugh. As if you have any idea what evidence is.
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
There's a little bit more to it than the two little snippets you put forth.
In fact this is about 1/10th of 1%.
What about them?
Leaders - appointed by God. We know that God appointed leaders. Get it?
And this why Jesus as the Messiah is the prophet like Moses Deut 18:15
Notice that Jesus and not the pope is the leader here in this text.
Keep fooling yourself
What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Coming from a liar, your comments don't surpise me.
You have no problem swalling up all those liying papal catechism.
You don't even know what is being debated in the New Testament,
yet you've got the nerve to call me LIAR
BAM
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30 Jan 2007 07:27:44 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What
about
Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
What a laugh. As if you have any idea what evidence is.
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
There's a little bit more to it than the two little snippets you put
forth.
In fact this is about 1/10th of 1%.
What about them?
Leaders - appointed by God. We know that God appointed leaders. Get it?
And this why Jesus as the Messiah is the prophet like Moses Deut 18:15
Notice that Jesus and not the pope is the leader here in this text.
Keep fooling yourself
What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Coming from a liar, your comments don't surpise me.
You have no problem swalling up all those liying papal catechism.
You don't even know what is being debated in the New Testament,
yet you've got the nerve to call me LIAR
If it weren't for the Catholic Church you'd be worshipping Allah, if you
were lucky, but more likely a totem pole.
BAM
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31 Jan 2007 04:46:43 PM |
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On Jan 30, 8:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1170104117.028853.239710@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What
about
Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
What a laugh. As if you have any idea what evidence is.
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
There's a little bit more to it than the two little snippets you put
forth.
In fact this is about 1/10th of 1%.
What about them?
Leaders - appointed by God. We know that God appointed leaders. Get it?
And this why Jesus as the Messiah is the prophet like Moses Deut 18:15
Notice that Jesus and not the pope is the leader here in this text.
Keep fooling yourself
What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Coming from a liar, your comments don't surpise me.
You have no problem swalling up all those liying papal catechism.
You don't even know what is being debated in the New Testament,
yet you've got the nerve to call me LIAR
If it weren't for the Catholic Church you'd be worshipping Allah, if you
were lucky, but more likely a totem pole.
Check the creed of that Catholic Church again and tell me
If there is any mention of Pope or papacy. If Peter as head of
the Church was about salvation, His name would have been
inserted in the CREED.
Pope or Peter as head of the CHURCH is irrelevant and
does not stand sound biblical SCHOLARSHIP.
Allah is just short for Allaha, the Aramean for God.
This is the Language which was used around the Syrian
Border during Jesus time. It just mean the One God
that Moses teach the world to worship.
BAM- Hide quoted text -
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30 Jan 2007 03:45:56 PM |
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On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170027328.882131.163050@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Church Government? Church need no Government. The only Governeor of
the
Church is Jesus in HeavenThen why did Jesus establish one? What about
Abraham and Moses and David and
Solomon?
There is no evidence that he appointed someone as the head of his
church only
in the mind of a dreaming pope and his brainwashed lunatics.
What a laugh. As if you have any idea what evidence is.
Here what evidence is. It is in Galatians 2:7
7On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the task
of preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles,[a] just as Peter had been to
the Jews.[b]
8For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to
the Jews,
was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles.
9James,
Peter[c] and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas
the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to
me.
It is clear from the above text that Peter was an Apostle to the Jews,
the circumcised and not to the Gentiles. He had no seat in ROME.
What is further implied is that the Jews community whatever their
costums might be are Christians though they chose to follow
the RITUALS of their ancestors in following Christ. Therefore
they are a part of the Church, and the meaning of the Church is
consistent with what the Acts says happened the day of Pentecost.
So as you see from a sound exegesis, there is but one Universal
Church whose head is not the Pope OR Peter but Jesus Himself as
Christ,
and different Traditions and ritual according to the Covenant
one follows.
The Pope can claim juridictions over the Bishops of the Roman Empire
I have no objection to that. And since no Roman Empire exists
he can claim juridiction over Italy.
But claiming a universal Juridiction is a blaspheme and an insult
to our intelliegence.
Truly papacy is the stumbling block to Monotheism Unity.
But since you are so ignorant of what is being said here in the
Bible you can let yourself be fooled by the POPE
This teaching is not consistent with Paul who claimed to be sent
as the Apostles of the Gentiles while Peter was sent to
the circumcised that is to say the Jews. It not Paul and Peter
It is Paul or Peter.
There's a little bit more to it than the two little snippets you put forth.
In fact this is about 1/10th of 1%.
What about them?
Leaders - appointed by God. We know that God appointed leaders. Get it?
What about Abraham, Moses, David and Salomon?
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those
who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Coming from a liar, your comments don't surpise me.
BAM
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30 Jan 2007 04:03:04 PM |
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wrote:
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Irenaeus' book Adversus Haereses, III, iii, 3 reads:
After the Holy Apostles (Peter and Paul) had founded and set the
Church in order (in Rome) they gave over the exercise of the episcopal
office to Linus. The same Linus is mentioned by St. Paul in his
Epistle to Timothy. His successor was Anacletus.
The verse of the letter to Timothy is IITimothy 4:21
The primacy of Peter was described by Tertullian in his book, De
Pudicitia, chapter 21.
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30 Jan 2007 04:17:35 PM |
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On Jan 30, 5:03 pm, "Liam Too" <liamtoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com wrote:
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Irenaeus' book Adversus Haereses, III, iii, 3 reads:
After the Holy Apostles (Peter and Paul) had founded and set the
Church in order (in Rome) they gave over the exercise of the episcopal
office to Linus. The same Linus is mentioned by St. Paul in his
Epistle to Timothy. His successor was Anacletus.
The verse of the letter to Timothy is IITimothy 4:21
The primacy of Peter was described by Tertullian in his book, De
Pudicitia, chapter 21.
Tertullian is no Paul. It is right there in the Bible that Peter was
sent
to sheperd to the Jews as they wanted to keep
the Mosaic Law. It is time to question the accuracy
of Tertullian. They write history with an agenda.
Paul would never let Peter fall prey to that papal heresy.
Remember
their quarell in Antioch about not eating with the gentiles
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30 Jan 2007 04:37:34 PM |
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On Jan 30, 5:03 pm, "Liam Too" <liamtoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com wrote:
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Irenaeus' book Adversus Haereses, III, iii, 3 reads:
After the Holy Apostles (Peter and Paul) had founded and set the
Church in order (in Rome) they gave over the exercise of the episcopal
office to Linus. The same Linus is mentioned by St. Paul in his
Epistle to Timothy. His successor was Anacletus.
This is not authoritative Scripture. So why should I care?
How relevant is the mention of Linus in Timothy
about the claim that Peter was the Head of the Universal
Church inRome
The verse of the letter to Timothy is IITimothy 4:21
The primacy of Peter was described by Tertullian in his book, De
Pudicitia, chapter 21.
Again Tertullian is no Paul. It is right there in the Scriptures
that Peter was sent as an Apostle to the Jews. It means what
it means.
Because we know that the Jew were fighting to keep
the costums and Law
of Moses along with Jesus as Christ/Messiah. Acts 15
This was a very difficult ministery.
That Tertullian write History with a hidden agenda is no secret.
It is obvious and even a fashion at that time
that they all wanted to associate their church with
someone who had seen Jesus during his earthly life.
Paul lacked that credancial. It is ok to put Peter along
with him. He was not writing History.
God is a God of a perfect order and I don't see why
Peter would disobey what He set up and the
structural foundation that he chose.
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30 Jan 2007 07:26:54 PM |
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On Jan 30, 5:03 pm, "Liam Too" <liamtoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com wrote:
They were all circumcised and passed it down as a perpetual ritual
to be observed. This is why Peter is said to be sent to the
descendants of those who observed that ritual. He had no seat in Rome.
Only deluded liars believe that NONSENSE
Irenaeus' book Adversus Haereses, III, iii, 3 reads:
After the Holy Apostles (Peter and Paul) had founded and set the
Church in order (in Rome) they gave over the exercise of the episcopal
office to Linus. The same Linus is mentioned by St. Paul in his
Epistle to Timothy. His successor was Anacletus.
This is not authoritative Scripture. So why should I care?
Wahahahaha!!!!!!
As if we should care about your interpretations of scripture?
WAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
BAM
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06 Feb 2007 05:11:57 PM |
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<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 6:17 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
YOUR POPE HAS BEEN IN ERROR ON MANY ISSUES
And tell us about *your* Pope. Whoops, I forgot - you are your own Pope.
BAM
Better have none than have one that constantly makes mistakes and
covers them up with empty phraselogy such as Ex-cathedra.
When your pope is caught making some error, you comes up with
nonsense. No he was not seated ex cathedra, he was not seated
in Peter Chair, he was sitting underneath, No, he was sitting
next to it, therefore this mistake is not really a mistake... and all
other
garbages we are tired of.
Our differences are simple. I choose Peter. You choose yourself. I agree
with Jesus and you agree with N-O-B-O-D-Y.
The point was that If Jesus meant what the pope explained you, He
would have taken time to explain the same to Paul
for the sake of coherence. So first "cas de figure"
since Paul never mentioned that arrangement, therefore it is safe to
say Jesus did not mean it either.
Anything that you can not check against Paul is superfluous and man
made.
Now when did your pope become a universal sheperd?
We find no papal record in the then persian Empire,
unless you wan to tell me that persian was excluded from unversality.
Did peter decreed anything in the sovereign empire
of Persia. Unlikely. Or did universality follows along
the Roman empire borders only?
your Pope is just a bishop of Rome. He has no juridiction
over the world no matter how many lies he tells you.
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N-O-B-O-D-Y
N-O-B-O-D-Y
N-O-B-O-D-Y
N-O-B-O-D-Y
N-O-B-O-D-Y
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06 Feb 2007 10:35:51 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 6:17 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
YOUR POPE HAS BEEN IN ERROR ON MANY ISSUES
And tell us about *your* Pope. Whoops, I forgot - you are your own
Pope.
BAM
Better have none than have one that constantly makes mistakes and
covers them up with empty phraselogy such as Ex-cathedra.
When your pope is caught making some error, you comes up with
nonsense. No he was not seated ex cathedra, he was not seated
in Peter Chair, he was sitting underneath, No, he was sitting
next to it, therefore this mistake is not really a mistake... and all
other
garbages we are tired of.
Our differences are simple. I choose Peter. You choose yourself. I agree
with Jesus and you agree with N-O-B-O-D-Y.
The point was that If Jesus meant what the pope explained you, He
would have taken time to explain the same to Paul
for the sake of coherence.
If you don't want to hear the truth don't blame Jesus. The truth is not in
you. It wouldn't have mattered what Jesus had said. You just don't feel like
obeying the Church so you scramble around scripture to ease your guilty
conscience.
BAM
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10 Feb 2007 10:20:10 AM |
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On Feb 6, 11:35 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 6:17 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
YOUR POPE HAS BEEN IN ERROR ON MANY ISSUES
And tell us about *your* Pope. Whoops, I forgot - you are your own
Pope.
BAM
Better have none than have one that constantly makes mistakes and
covers them up with empty phraselogy such as Ex-cathedra.
When your pope is caught making some error, you comes up with
nonsense. No he was not seated ex cathedra, he was not seated
in Peter Chair, he was sitting underneath, No, he was sitting
next to it, therefore this mistake is not really a mistake... and all
other
garbages we are tired of.
Our differences are simple. I choose Peter. You choose yourself. I agree
with Jesus and you agree with N-O-B-O-D-Y.
The point was that If Jesus meant what the pope explained you, He
would have taken time to explain the same to Paul
for the sake of coherence.
If you don't want to hear the truth don't blame Jesus. The truth is not in
you. It wouldn't have mattered what Jesus had said. You just don't feel like
obeying the Church so you scramble around scripture to ease your guilty
conscience.
I am not blaming Jesus... You are the one who is accusing Jesus for
not
knowing what a sovereign power means, and not knowing where politics,
I mean, the state and God come together specially on social issues.
So you think Jesus would mandate your pope sitting in Rome as a
foreign
power to meddle with China's internal affairs regarding some social
issues,
substituing himself to the independante state of China and its
Sovereign Laws. What idiocy!
The Pope agents in any given country are foreign agents.
Check pope teaching again against the foundation that Paul laid down
and you will find out that your pope is just like any other CROOK.
Again he has no juridiction over the world. Yet I am not a protestator
or a Sola Scriptura doctrine adherent.
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10 Feb 2007 10:44:17 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 6, 11:35 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 6:17 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
YOUR POPE HAS BEEN IN ERROR ON MANY ISSUES
And tell us about *your* Pope. Whoops, I forgot - you are your own
Pope.
BAM
Better have none than have one that constantly makes mistakes and
covers them up with empty phraselogy such as Ex-cathedra.
When your pope is caught making some error, you comes up with
nonsense. No he was not seated ex cathedra, he was not seated
in Peter Chair, he was sitting underneath, No, he was sitting
next to it, therefore this mistake is not really a mistake... and
all
other
garbages we are tired of.
Our differences are simple. I choose Peter. You choose yourself. I
agree
with Jesus and you agree with N-O-B-O-D-Y.
The point was that If Jesus meant what the pope explained you, He
would have taken time to explain the same to Paul
for the sake of coherence.
If you don't want to hear the truth don't blame Jesus. The truth is not
in
you. It wouldn't have mattered what Jesus had said. You just don't feel
like
obeying the Church so you scramble around scripture to ease your guilty
conscience.
I am not blaming Jesus... You are the one who is accusing Jesus for
not
knowing what a sovereign power means, and not knowing where politics,
I mean, the state and God come together specially on social issues.
So you think Jesus would mandate your pope sitting in Rome as a
foreign
power to meddle with China's internal affairs regarding some social
issues,
substituing himself to the independante state of China and its
Sovereign Laws. What idiocy!
The Pope agents in any given country are foreign agents.
Check pope teaching again against the foundation that Paul laid down
and you will find out that your pope is just like any other CROOK.
Again he has no juridiction over the world. Yet I am not a protestator
or a Sola Scriptura doctrine adherent.
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
BAM
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11 Feb 2007 11:53:19 AM |
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On Feb 10, 11:44 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171124410.032121.54150@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 6, 11:35 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1170803517.699924.85370@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1170424323.174398.87250@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 1, 6:17 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
YOUR POPE HAS BEEN IN ERROR ON MANY ISSUES
And tell us about *your* Pope. Whoops, I forgot - you are your own
Pope.
BAM
Better have none than have one that constantly makes mistakes and
covers them up with empty phraselogy such as Ex-cathedra.
When your pope is caught making some error, you comes up with
nonsense. No he was not seated ex cathedra, he was not seated
in Peter Chair, he was sitting underneath, No, he was sitting
next to it, therefore this mistake is not really a mistake... and
all
other
garbages we are tired of.
Our differences are simple. I choose Peter. You choose yourself. I
agree
with Jesus and you agree with N-O-B-O-D-Y.
The point was that If Jesus meant what the pope explained you, He
would have taken time to explain the same to Paul
for the sake of coherence.
If you don't want to hear the truth don't blame Jesus. The truth is not
in
you. It wouldn't have mattered what Jesus had said. You just don't feel
like
obeying the Church so you scramble around scripture to ease your guilty
conscience.
I am not blaming Jesus... You are the one who is accusing Jesus for
not
knowing what a sovereign power means, and not knowing where politics,
I mean, the state and God come together specially on social issues.
So you think Jesus would mandate your pope sitting in Rome as a
foreign
power to meddle with China's internal affairs regarding some social
issues,
substituing himself to the independante state of China and its
Sovereign Laws. What idiocy!
The Pope agents in any given country are foreign agents.
Check pope teaching again against the foundation that Paul laid down
and you will find out that your pope is just like any other CROOK.
Again he has no juridiction over the world. Yet I am not a protestator
or a Sola Scriptura doctrine adherent.
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
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11 Feb 2007 08:27:52 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
...........more of the same.......
BAM
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12 Feb 2007 06:17:01 PM |
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On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
BAM
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13 Feb 2007 12:43:07 AM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over him.
BAM
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13 Feb 2007 08:15:22 AM |
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
***Who do they think make these changes?
They run after a deer, and they found themselves chased by a hog
Who do they think make thses changes?***
BAM
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13 Feb 2007 08:23:39 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171325821.465719.90090@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
BAM
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13 Feb 2007 09:35:58 PM |
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On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171325821.465719.90090@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
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14 Feb 2007 05:24:53 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171325821.465719.90090@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
Yep - we sent 'em back to the stone age.
BAM
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15 Feb 2007 07:18:02 AM |
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On Feb 14, 6:24 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"codebrea...@bigsecret.com" <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171424158.590694.292800@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171376121.387419.315580@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171325821.465719.90090@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over h=
im.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
Yep - we sent 'em back to the stone age.
Then you found yourself nez-=E0-nez with them in Spain
and realized that you were the ones in the Stone Age
and not them. The sender who get sent. Hmmmmmm
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15 Feb 2007 08:49:20 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 14, 6:24 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"codebrea...@bigsecret.com" <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171376121.387419.315580@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1171325821.465719.90090@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over
him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
Yep - we sent 'em back to the stone age.
Then you found yourself nez-à-nez with them in Spain
and realized that you were the ones in the Stone Age
and not them. The sender who get sent. Hmmmmmm
You know nothink.
BAM
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15 Feb 2007 09:49:39 PM |
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On Feb 15, 9:49 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 14, 6:24 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"codebrea...@bigsecret.com" <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrot=
e:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over
him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own ga=
me.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
Yep - we sent 'em back to the stone age.
Then you found yourself nez-=E0-nez with them in Spain
and realized that you were the ones in the Stone Age
and not them. The sender who get sent. Hmmmmmm
You know nothink.
Oh ye, I know that popes are failible men like anybody else.
That that have no juridiction over the world, not from
Jesus... That they are power seeker like any statemen
That they are the stumbling block to Monotheists UNITY.
Isn't that something?
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On Feb 15, 9:49 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
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On Feb 14, 6:24 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
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On Feb 13, 9:23 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
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On Feb 13, 1:43 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
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On Feb 11, 9:27 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net>
wrote:
<Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote
What a bunch of incoherent blabber.
Then I make sense. Check your book of indoctrination called
Catechism
If it is not an incoherent blabber to you, then I make sense.
..........more of the same.......
I am beginning to thank the author of the Qur'an
He tells us how the pope is fooling himself and the masses.
What is coded in some surats against your papacy is eye
opening.
The author of the Koran wouldn't know the Pope if he tripped over
him.
He knows them better than you think. He beats them at their own
game.
How is that If he did not them.
Shows what you know - we kicked the Moslems' asses.
Who we? Heraclius Byzantium ruler
would not agree with you. He heard about a New power rising on the
other side and he lost sleep for the whole month. This does notl ook
like
kicking somebody *****
Yep - we sent 'em back to the stone age.
Then you found yourself nez-à-nez with them in Spain
and realized that you were the ones in the Stone Age
and not them. The sender who get sent. Hmmmmmm
You know nothink.
Oh ye, I know that popes are failible men like anybody else.
That that have no juridiction over the world, not from
Jesus... That they are power seeker like any statemen
That they are the stumbling block to Monotheists UNITY.
Isn't that something?
The Pope is the leader of Christ's Church. There is nothing else to look
for. Take it or perish.
BAM
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